Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[kidshop]

one question answered:
Kate called the cops

the reports say this happened at midnight .. but it's clearly not night, at least not midnight, in this video:

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=3ae17e16-3ce6-4b3f-85a4-fa2880888e49

If Kate did call, it would point to the fact she thought she was right about whatever the reason she was calling. But the fact that she left indicates the police didn't agree and felt the children were safe and Jon was doing ok. I hope Kate was just having a tantrum and there was no real danger to the kids (other than what the parents are doing to them).

I just don't understand all the craziness, bordering on recklessness....surely she has 'people' who can help her get from one place to another.

 

[MAKmom]

You see what you want to see -- for example, if you go on RadarOnline, you'll see plenty of photos of Jon without sunglasses.

IMO, Jon was always the type of guy he is now, not the guy he portrayed on the show. He always had his ears pierced, always smoked, and only stopped snowboarding and biking when he married Kate. Did you really think he didn't know how to ride a motorcycle before the OCC episode?

To me, the more amazing thing is that he was able to portray the preppy image for so long.

Yeah I agree, I think he was a teenager who was a drinker & probley used the occasional illegal drugs. Like many good citizens he grew-up got married & settled down with his wife & family. Like most guys with major problems in their life you can trace it back to some sort of addiction.

This is what I suspect.... does'nt mean I'm right.

 

[DVCisME]

Does anyone else think maybe Jon wasn't letting her in since her recent interviews were very clear that "she lives in that house"? Not saying it is right but maybe Jon did it to make a point.

 

[madge]

I just don't understand all the craziness, bordering on recklessness....surely she has 'people' who can help her get from one place to another.

and the police carried her luggage out to the car at 4:00am? the police?

I wonder how many babysitters there actually are, not including Jon's newest hire. there's an Asian girl (is she Korean? I can't remember...) that's been with them for a while, and at least one other girl is in a lot of the pictures at the house .. and I'm not sure where Ashley (Carla's daughter) fits in to the mix, she might be the one in the pictures, I don't know...

 

[MAKmom]

If Kate did call, it would point to the fact she thought she was right about whatever the reason she was calling. But the fact that she left indicates the police didn't agree and felt the children were safe and Jon was doing ok. I hope Kate was just having a tantrum and there was no real danger to the kids (other than what the parents are doing to them).

I just don't understand all the craziness, bordering on recklessness....surely she has 'people' who can help her get from one place to another.

Accourding to people she had to leave because the custody agreement says she can not enter the property.

 

[jpaxton1118]

If the custody agreement says she can not be there then she should not be there. If there is a problem then she should call the authorities about it but not go to the house. I know a couple that is going through a really bad divorce, they have to meet at the police station to hand off the kids. The dad showed up at the house to take the son to camp, not sure why, but she called the cops and he was arrested. Kate should be lucky that did not happen.

 

[Mom2Nick]

***? Why didn't the POLICE drive her in one of their cars so she wouldn't put others lives at risk driving 95 miles an hour (I'm guessing they just mean 'really fast') with no lights.

Where was she going that she didn't want to be followed and go to such extremes?

I do not think she should get to live full time at the house whether or not Jon is there. It doesn't really work that way.

ETA: If Jon is putting the kids at risk, then she need to file something against him. She can't keep it quiet anymore and only she knows if there is a case or not.

If Kate did call, it would point to the fact she thought she was right about whatever the reason she was calling. But the fact that she left indicates the police didn't agree and felt the children were safe and Jon was doing ok. I hope Kate was just having a tantrum and there was no real danger to the kids (other than what the parents are doing to them).

I just don't understand all the craziness, bordering on recklessness....surely she has 'people' who can help her get from one place to another.

I am sure it had little to do with the kids safety and everything to do with her disapproval of who Jon has around the kids and her fury at not having control of what happens when she is not there.

This is part of being divorced. Unless the kids are in danger or a Judge at her request agrees with her demands when it come sto who is around the kids, she will have to learn that her rules and her requests do not apply when she is not there.

 

[SaraJayne]

If the custody agreement says she can not be there then she should not be there. If there is a problem then she should call the authorities about it but not go to the house. I know a couple that is going through a really bad divorce, they have to meet at the police station to hand off the kids. The dad showed up at the house to take the son to camp, not sure why, but she called the cops and he was arrested. Kate should be lucky that did not happen.

I agree with you. She shouldn't have been there per the custody agreement and she's lucky she wasn't arrested.

Can you imagine the tantrum she would have thrown if Jon would have shown up when it was "her" time there?

 

[redrosesix]

most recent (9:45am) update:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...n-leaves-hotel-police-escort-after-battle-jon

This is craziness

If Kate did call, it would point to the fact she thought she was right about whatever the reason she was calling. But the fact that she left indicates the police didn't agree and felt the children were safe and Jon was doing ok. I hope Kate was just having a tantrum and there was no real danger to the kids (other than what the parents are doing to them).

I just don't understand all the craziness, bordering on recklessness....surely she has 'people' who can help her get from one place to another.

ITA with this

Does anyone else think maybe Jon wasn't letting her in since her recent interviews were very clear that "she lives in that house"? Not saying it is right but maybe Jon did it to make a point.

Yup -- I think that.

Just speaking hypothetically here: Our family courts don't change custody arrangements when people get divorced unless both parents request it. So, if one parent has been staying in the family home and the other has only been visiting to babysit, the first one gets the home and primary custody. If they lived here, if Kate was allowed to be at the home and with the kids whenever she wanted to, and Jon only while she's away, this would not bode well for Jon when it comes time to finalize the divorce ie. he'd end up not being allowed in the home without her permission, seeing his kids only sporadically and required to pay child support.

 

[DMRick]

The police don't like to get mixed up in custody things. Kate saying, I don't want that person my husband brought in the house to be near them, she's not a good person..the police won't be involoved, unless they were doing drugs or something bad in front of the kids and she could prove it. They would just ask the parent who doesn't have custody that day to leave.

Kate would have to go to family court to get their opinion. If, when Kate files for a hearing, usually, the children are given their own lawyer, paid for by the state, and that lawyer will decide what is best for the kids in a custody arrangement. There can be an emergency family court hearing. At least that is how it is done in NYS.

It's just not like in the 'olden' days. Ex's are allowed to have overnight visitors, and live-ins, and the court usually only gets involved if it's actually harmful to the kids..harm is being done. I suspect she's prob nice to the kids, and they have no idea she isn't good for them (if in fact, she isn't).

We really don't know anything from what I've read. I assume Kate didn't like Jon's visitor, but she just doesn't get the say anymore, on his days. They'll be in family court before too long I'm betting, but as much as I feel Kate's pain, if this is the problem, I don't think there is much she can do about it.

If Kate did call, it would point to the fact she thought she was right about whatever the reason she was calling. But the fact that she left indicates the police didn't agree and felt the children were safe and Jon was doing ok. I hope Kate was just having a tantrum and there was no real danger to the kids (other than what the parents are doing to them).

 

[redrosesix]

Yeah I agree, I think he was a teenager who was a drinker & probley used the occasional illegal drugs. Like many good citizens he grew-up got married & settled down with his wife & family. Like most guys with major problems in their life you can trace it back to some sort of addiction.

This is what I suspect.... does'nt mean I'm right.

I think that saying somebody is addicted to illegal drugs is a very serious accusation, that if true would likely result in him losing all but infrequent supervised visits with his kids.

More importantly, I fail to see any proof that he takes any illegal drugs at all.

 

[MAKmom]

I thought she was crazy to do this split the house thing with him. I hope it is not too late for her to change this.

I would loose my mind if my DH girlfriends were in my house...not that he has any that I know of

I would be like you want to live your new life....buy a house & have your kids there.

 

[LoraJ]

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=79465742-1e57-43d0-a291-3fe54ac29836

He says he hasn't seen her in a long time? What?

Confirms Kate didn't approve of Steph.

 

[Mom2Nick]

I thought she was crazy to do this split the house thing with him. I hope it is not too late for her to change this.

I would loose my mind if my DH girlfriends were in my house...not that he has any that I know of

I would be like you want to live your new life....buy a house & have your kids there.

It's not her house.

 

[SaraJayne]

It's not her house.

Right. It's the kids' house.

 

[Mom2Nick]

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=79465742-1e57-43d0-a291-3fe54ac29836

He says he hasn't seen her in a long time? What?

Confirms Kate didn't approve of Steph.

He's an idiot for talking to the Paps.

They both need to respect the boundaries as they are written right now, handle things through their attorneys and ****.

 

[madge]

I thought she was crazy to do this split the house thing with him. I hope it is not too late for her to change this.

I would loose my mind if my DH girlfriends were in my house...not that he has any that I know of

I would be like you want to live your new life....buy a house & have your kids there.

Jon did get a place to live when he's not in the home with the children. It's not Kate's house, she just lives there when it's her time .. just as Jon does.

 

[DreaGirl]

He's an idiot for talking to the Paps.

They both need to respect the boundaries as they are written right now, handle things through their attorneys and ****.

They both need to stop talking to the press. I can see Jon's frustration. TLC just let Kate go on 2 major talk shows and do a People magazine article, yet they have put a gag order on him.

They both need to stop talking and worry about their kids.

 

[madge]

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=79465742-1e57-43d0-a291-3fe54ac29836

He says he hasn't seen her in a long time? What?

Confirms Kate didn't approve of Steph.

did you catch him at the very end? when they ask if he approved of Kate's babysitter and he says if she'll approve of mine?

uh oh ...

and Jon's right. it's his turn, Kate should stay away. same goes for him.

one other thing, though. Jon said called the babysitter because he had to get stuff done? He's got days away from the children to work. put your money where your mouth is ... spend time with your children.

 

[DreaGirl]

did you catch him at the very end? when they ask if he approved of Kate's babysitter and he says if she'll approve of mine?

uh oh ...

and Jon's right. it's his turn, Kate should stay away. same goes for him.

one other thing, though. Jon said called the babysitter because he had to get stuff done? He's got days away from the children to work. put your money where your mouth is ... spend time with your children.

I thought he said he needed to get filming stuff done, as in interviews. I could be wrong though.