Monorails to no longer operate during Evening Extra Magic Hours

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kaytieeldr, I'll have to give you credit for tenacity, but your bullheadedness and inability to empathize with others who are actually affected by this cutback is the only thing 'regrettable' around here. By your own admission you have no dog in this fight, yet you continue posting. If nothing else, it's an interesting train wreck to watch.
 
Ah, c'mon. I could go through this thread and edit a minimum of 60% of the posts for grammar, spelling, structure or punctuation. Do we really need to get that petty? I generally write much better than I speak - see the posts criticizing specific words or terms I've used ;) - but sometimes I write like I talk. That was one of those times.

It's not like I jumped on you to point out grammatical errors. We ALL make them when typing on a discussion board. But you said it was a question when called on it by numerous posters, which changes your comment entirely. I said it didn't appear to be a question based on the way it was worded.

If it weren't germaine to the issue at hand, I never would have brought it up.
 
I realize now it was a question in one post and a statement in (at least) one other.

As for not being an MK-area resort guest - unless WL counts - I think there are, or were until they were frightened, chased, or bored away, other DISers who wouldn't be affected but were outraged.
 
While I respect your opinion as different as it is from mine and others, I think this has more to do with Disney cutbacks in it's number of employees servicing the monorail, resulting in a need to cutback the hours the monorail operates. They (Disney) can spin this anyway they want by saying WDW has the safety of the guest in mind, but I'm not buying it. So, while I think " Up Yours" may be a tough choice of words, I would agree with this assessment and say it is WDW once again saying, "here's another cutback while we maintain price or even increase price."

While I promised myself not to post on this thread again until new news came up, I find myself drawn to this like a car wreck on the highway. I just can't seem to pass on by without slowing down to look.

Anyway, I think your post is very polite, and I agree that "up yours" is a tough choice of words. But even with your softened approach, I have to respectfully disagree with your last sentence. I interpret Disney to be saying "We are adding a lot new things to WDW including the new Fantasyland section, new shows, etc. and we are also taking away some things too such as monorail service during EMH and replacing it with a less costly means of transportation. We are sorry that we have to continue to have to make some negative changes, but please don't forget we also add things too. Although we feel we continue to add more positive than negative, each person has to make that choice and we regrettably understand if you no longer feel the value is there. As long as our guest bookings increase and spending per guest increase, we don't know how it affects individual guests unless you speak up. We do listen so if enough guests complain and it appears to be negatively affecting many of our guest's experiences (especially those that pay more per person), we will consider making adjustments. And yes, we are just people and do make mistakes too."

In other words, I don't look at this in a vacuum, but instead try to see the bigger picture. But that said, I understand that any specific change can adversely affect me enough to not visit a particular resort. If I had a trip booked at the Beach Club and found out that Stormalong Bay was closing, I'd change my reservation to another resort as that pool is a primary reason we would book the Beach Club. And yes, I'd be upset at that change.

We have two trips to BLT planned next year. (Actually, the first one we plan to change @ the 7-month window to the Beach Club specifically for Stormalong Bay and better access to DHS for SWW). But if this monorail change is as bad as some here believe it will be, we may make book the second stay somewhere else. But right now, I don't think it will be that bad for us given our vacation habits and the time of year we visit. YMMV
 
I actually don't think it will be as bad as some of us think........... because I don't see any way they can close it down at 8 PM on party nights. I just think it's pretty rotten that they haven't clarified this yet for people.
 
Here is a picture of the walkway courtesy of allears.net

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hmm....considering the cutback in monorail service for the luxury resorts one can only think "Rickshaw Rides" will be part of future WDW packages along with "Disney Dining Plan"...

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hmm....considering the cutback in monorail service for the luxury resorts one can only think "Rickshaw Rides" will be part of future WDW packages along with "Disney Dining Plan"...

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Sorry, but as it has been made clear in this thread these Rickshaws are clearly elitist as they don't carry enough people. We will not tolerate single or two person transportation in the People's Parks. ;)
 
Sorry, but as it has been made clear in this thread these Rickshaws are clearly elitist as they don't carry enough people. We will not tolerate single or two person transportation in the People's Parks. ;)

Don't you worry! A Disney-fied rickshaw would require filled to capacity standing room and perhaps one or two children on the "runners" back bringing the total up to atleast 15 (strollers must be folded prior to boarding).
 
Rickshaw is a terrible idea. It won't bring you back to your hotel -- just a gift shop, where you can buy rickshaw-themed pins, vinlymations and pook-a-whatevers.
 
I actually don't think it will be as bad as some of us think........... because I don't see any way they can close it down at 8 PM on party nights. I just think it's pretty rotten that they haven't clarified this yet for people.
Maybe they're waiting to see how the EEMH nights at the Magic Kingdom work out. They'll have almost a month and a half to come up with a different plan.
 
Every time I see your name, I think of John Wayne, don't know why! Anyhow, I suspect that part of the reason you may feel "attacked" is because of this position you take. DW and I, usually only stay at Monorail Resorts. We also go to the parks enough that EMH aren't that big of a deal to us.

That said, we stay at Monorail Resorts because those are the ones we like best, partially because of the Monorail! We pay for that benefit (we have been told this many times when booking our stays by the CM's when asked why these three resorts are higher priced than others..). That doesn't mean we are above riding a bus! I'd have to think about it but I almost feel that to be an insult to me! Not to worry, I'm not flaming here..., just expressing my point of view which it seems you cannot empathize with.

I have no problem taking buses. They are a part of getting around Disney and the most certainly are not "beneath me". But, I pay for a Monorail Resort and for that premium, I expect adequate usage. In my opinion, it's like paying for Concierge and being given a Standard Room with no credit.

I guess people can argue that there is no price premium for these resorts but that is not how I understand it to be. I can only say, AKL and WL are less expensive than CR, PR and GF.

Bottom line, it has nothing to do with being "better" than anyone else. It's a question of getting what you paid for, nothing more.

pirate:

great post!!

a "change" in transportation, from monorail to bus is a cutback. no two ways around it. I don't care about a thesaurus, dictionary, etc. etc. you pay extra to stay at a monorail resort for the convenience of the monorail period.
 
Well, but it did happen. Somebody else will have to let you know the length of time (definitely not a half-year or more), but while work was being done on the dock at Epcot, WDW did provide bus transportation from the Epcot-area resorts to the front of the park. Before you ask ;) - because there's no road to the International Gateway.

There is a distinct difference... what you are describing was temporary situation...the reason the reroute was announced along with the resolution. The monorail discussion here is being portrayed as forever and no final resolution of the underlying troubles with the system and the monorails themselves is announced.... They are putting bandaid on the symptoms here but not fixing them.....


It's a big deal to some of you. It's a big deal to DonaldDoleWhip. I don't know when he originally booked his trip or if it includes ADRs, but in addition to expressing his frustration here, he's speaking with his wallet. He changed his reservation to the Wilderness Lodge.

Most posters seem to be happy just to complain.

I bought into the Bay Lake Tower... so I cannot simply change my reservation...best I can do is to try and book at alternate resorts at the 7 month window...

As for the posters complaining...most people seem to be listing reasons they feel the way they feel and other posters such as yourself in most cases disregard their feelings as something snobbish or inappropriate....

And this attitude is why you have so many people responding negatively to your posts. You imply in most of your posts a whole chunk of posters are basically snobs and you're surprised when people "attack" you back? Okay..

Self fulfilling prophecy!!!

But, of course, you disagree. .:lmao: and, wait for it....the insult.:thumbsup2

It's a bit difficult to change your vacation plans, two months out, and will likely cost.. EVEN MORE $$$$. Now, the May trip is a different animal, and changes are in the works.

There it is..the final put-down. Seems to be, what makes you happy.:rolleyes:

lol

Well, I didn't say never - I said once. There are resorts I like better. It seems there are many people who aren't affected but are still complaining.
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So what you are saying is that those people involved in this conversation who are not affected by this cutback should not be "in this conversation"!!! That point of view you just expressed is Amazing... But following the Bouncing Figment we arrive at this point: You are not affected (you on your own admission have only been a Guest at a monorail resort once in your lifetime and prefer Old Key West etc).... so why are YOU even involved in this conversation? :)



great post!!

a "change" in transportation, from monorail to bus is a cutback. no two ways around it. I don't care about a thesaurus, dictionary, etc. etc. you pay extra to stay at a monorail resort for the convenience of the monorail period.

:thumbsup2
 
puntagordabob said:
So what you are saying is that those people involved in this conversation who are not affected by this cutback should not be "in this conversation"!!! That point of view you just expressed is Amazing... But following the Bouncing Figment we arrive at this point: You are not affected (you on your own admission have only been a Guest at a monorail resort once in your lifetime and prefer Old Key West etc).... so why are YOU even involved in this conversation?
What I'm saying is - since people who aren't affected by the change can complain, surely people who aren't affected can present the opposing point of view?
 
So what you are saying is that those people involved in this conversation who are not affected by this cutback should not be "in this conversation"!!! That point of view you just expressed is Amazing... But following the Bouncing Figment we arrive at this point: You are not affected (you on your own admission have only been a Guest at a monorail resort once in your lifetime and prefer Old Key West etc).... so why are YOU even involved in this conversation? :)
That's the best question I have read on this whole thread. :thumbsup2
 
Actually anyone EATING at one of the monorail resorts can be affected.
 
Since the monorail run until an hour after normal MK closing time, how many people would still be eating? I just don't eat that late. As a adult I have not stayed at a monorail resort, YET. We are staying at BLT in Feb.
 
Since the monorail run until an hour after normal MK closing time, how many people would still be eating? I just don't eat that late. As a adult I have not stayed at a monorail resort, YET. We are staying at BLT in Feb.

Starting in mid-September, the MK will close at 7 four nights a week until mid-December. People traveling during that time could be facing monorail closure at 8. MANY folks are still eating then.
 
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