Did anyone see a hidden Mickey in the movie Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Bl

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When my DW and I saw Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl in the theater we thought we saw a hidden Mickey:scratchin. We don’t know if it is an official, unofficial, or just wishful thinking. Today we watched it on DVD and paused it. The hidden Mickey is 35 minutes into the film, right after the prisoners are freed from a cannon blast through the prison wall, Captain Jack Sparrow is still trapped. Then the British army fires a cannon in return, from that blast you see a large cloud of smoke in the shape of Mickey’s head::MickeyMo. So can anyone confirm this or are we just pie eyed for Mickey?
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Yep... I saw it. Think it's been talked about on the forums, too. You're not crazy. :teeth:
 
Listern to the writer's commentary track on the DVD. They specifically mention that moment.

It's actually one of the better commentary tracks I've heard on a DVD. They discuss at length the "hows and why's" of story structure and point out a few hidden items. They also talk about the major differences between the three major drafts of the screenplay. And during the end credits the final set of writers give a detailed timeline of who was cursed when and answer a lot to questions people had posted on this board over the summer.

They also drop a big hint about the sequel which is now currently scheduled to begin filming in January 2005.
 
Man, I can't believe I MISSED that!!!! I specifically looked for hidden Mickeys and missed it anyway. Oh well, I guess I will make the HUGE sacrifice of watching it again!! Such a shame that I have to do so (LOL!):earsgirl:
 
It is more obvious the larger your TV/screen is. On our 43", it was obvious immediately. However, I did not notice it the two times I saw it in the cinema. I was not sure that was the point that others had been talking about because I avoided those posts. ;)
 
I finally got to the "writer's commentary", with over 10 hours of bonus material, it took a while to get there. You're right the writer's commentary track was one of the best yet. My DW and I are so happy to know that it's a CONFIRMED Hidden Mickey. Thanks again Another Voice.
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I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but that is not a Hidden Mickey.

First, the Walt Disney Company, in no way, shape, or form, actually acknowledges Hidden Mickeys. This was a phenomenon started by Walt Disney Imagineering (WDI) during the construction of Walt Disney World. Read up on the subject and you'll discover that the company doesn't officially recognize them.

Second, if it *was* supposed to be a Hidden Mickey, it would have to be in the proper dimension, shape, and proportions. If you look, you can't even see one true circle in that cloud of smoke.

And finally, for those of you who point out that the "Hidden Mickey" is mention in the commentary of the track, you may also want to read the foreword to that very commentary. It specifically mentions that the commentary is not a reflection of the opinions or ideas of The Walt Disney Company or any of its subsidiaries.

Sorry folks, it's not a Hidden Mickey!
 
Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Second, if it *was* supposed to be a Hidden Mickey, it would have to be in the proper dimension, shape, and proportions. If you look, you can't even see one true circle in that cloud of smoke.
There has to be a certain dimension, shape, and proportion? How to explain then the many Hidden Mickeys around the World that don't follow the pattern of one large circle flanked by two smaller circles? i.e. The Hidden Mickey at the crest of the final lift hill on Splash Mountain.
 
Actually, I should clarify myself on this one. There are many different definitions of what a Hidden Mickey is. The most popular of these defines a Hidden Mickey as an actual Mickey, or the popular three-circle representation of Mickey, placed in the context of another Disney-owned property. For instance, in the live-action version of 101 Dalmatians, there is a shot in which you see a Mickey figurine in the background. Or, in the Tower of Terror, the stuffed Mickey the little girl is holding.

If the three-circle representation is used, then it needs to be in the proper proportions and shape. I shouldn't have added dimension as that can be anything as long as the proportions are maintained. (The two nickels and a quarter rule.) If its not, then how in the world does it even begin to represent Mickey?!

Of course, there can be other forms of Hidden Mickeys as well. Something that reflects some other aspect of Disney and is not even a Mickey at all. As an example, on the Disney Magic in Rockin’ Bar D, there is a series of musical notes plastered to the wall behind the bar. These notes are the music from Under the Sea. This, some would argue, is a Hidden Mickey because it represents a throwback to another part of the Disney Company without being obvious. It's a sort of stamp that states, "yes, this is Disney."

Of course, since the Walt Disney Company does not recognize any such thing as Hidden Mickeys, you could really argue anything you want. However, in my opinion, the smoke does not represent nor look like Mickey in any way. Thus, it's not a Hidden Mickey. Something that is not in the proper dimensions, shape, or proportion doesn't represent the Mouse.

Here are some ideas from HiddenMickey.org as to what a Hidden Mickey is: (Of course, as always, this is only one idea and not "official" or the "rule".)

"First of all, any Mickey that seems very large and elaborate or very intricate, such as the formations of a cave or even the shapes of the parks themselves, is probably not an honest-to-goodness Hidden Mickey. There are exceptions, of course, but few and far between.

Second, a Mickey should be proportioned correctly; while there is no "set" or "official" measurement for a Hidden Mickey, if the ears seem too small or too close together, like the padlocks in all the parks, or if each circle is a different size and not in perspective, it is most likely not a Hidden Mickey. (While Hidden Mickeys don't require the circles to be connected to one another, use good sense -- if they're very far apart like on the Big Thunder Gear, it's probably not convincing enough.) Also, be careful when looking that you aren't simply finding a group of circles. A Hidden Mickey should be unique to its surroundings; if there are bunches of balloons in a hand or round shapes on a light fixture, you are bound to see something that could qualify, but is most likely not an intentional Hidden Mickey. Of course, there are always exceptions, but they are rare.

Lastly, a true Hidden Mickey should not have to rely too much on imagination, such as the Matterhorn Mickey. If you must squint your eyes, tilt your head, and have a certain amount of lighting at a certain angle, it's probably not a Mickey. A Mickey may be upside down or sideways, but when pointed out, should be relatively clear, and not stretched out or partially obliterated like the Star Tours blast."
 
Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Actually, I should clarify myself on this one. There are many different definitions of what a Hidden Mickey is. The most popular of these defines a Hidden Mickey as an actual Mickey, or the popular three-circle representation of Mickey, placed in the context of another Disney-owned property. For instance, in the live-action version of 101 Dalmatians, there is a shot in which you see a Mickey figurine in the background. Or, in the Tower of Terror, the stuffed Mickey the little girl is holding.
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I'll agree with you on the fact that a "Hidden Mickey" should be off the mouse himself and not something like the musical notes in which you stated. And also a true Mickey as also stated you shouldn't have to tilt your head, squint, etc.. But I also believe that it doesn't have to be the typical three circle rule and again I use my example of the profile of Mickey's head at the top of Splash Mountain. I think this is a rarity though as most of the hidden Mickeys that I have found consist of the three circle pattern, like the bubbles in the carpet of the Beach Club, or in the Grim Reaper's hand on The Haunted Mansion, etc...
 
"posted by "Three Cirlces" First, the Walt Disney Company, in no way, shape, or form, actually acknowledges Hidden Mickeys. This was a phenomenon started by Walt Disney Imagineering (WDI) during the construction of Walt Disney World. Read up on the subject and you'll discover that the company doesn't officially recognize them.


When we stayed at the WIlderness Lodge a few years ago, there was a hidden mickey game that the kids could play. There was a sheet the hotel provided with clues and if you could find all 10(?) then you received come sort of prize. Could "Three Circles" clarify how the hotel can have a game (with preprinted paper and a "prize") about hidden mickeys built into the hotel and then the corporation not recognize them?
 
Originally posted by RandyJ
[BWhen we stayed at the WIlderness Lodge a few years ago, there was a hidden mickey game that the kids could play. There was a sheet the hotel provided with clues and if you could find all 10(?) then you received come sort of prize. Could "Three Circles" clarify how the hotel can have a game (with preprinted paper and a "prize") about hidden mickeys built into the hotel and then the corporation not recognize them? [/B]

The Company does not officially recognize them. This means that they don't have official releases from the company that state they do indeed "hide" Mickey's image in/on Disney properties.

Also, were they true Hidden Mickey's or just decoration. Mickey's image is used numerous places throughout Disney but that does not make them "Hidden Mickeys." For example, each of the ticket windows at the Magic Kingdom have a cut-out of Mickey. That's not a Hidden Mickey, it's just design and decoration for the window.
 
Is there some sort of priesthood now that's going to decide what's a hidden Mickey and what isn't? Are there rules and guidelines and official mandates? Will there be a self appointed committee of "true fans" to tell everyone else what's real and what's not.

A Hidden Mickey is anything that reminds a person of the mouse. It's different for everyone - just like art should be. The only real judge of what's there is the audience. The artist may have intent, the corporation may have bureaucratic rules - but only the people actually looking at the work can say what they see.

Attempts to put all of this into code seem like an effort to force others to see what you see. If people want to see a hidden Mickey in the smoke then it exists for them. No "official recognition" is required.
 
You may want to re-read my posts in this thread. I have stated the same thing in many of them.

I have simply given my opinion on what a Hidden Mickey is. If you don't like it, don't worry, I won't come over and force you, or anyone else, to abide by it.

Take a deep breath... In...and out... In... and out...
 
*sniff, sniff* Does anyone else smell buring rubber? Certainly smells like somebody slammed their breaks on real hard and jammed it into reverse.
 
For the "Hidden Mickey" police: Don't worry you haven't rained on our parade. Infact last year DW and I took the Keys to the Kingdom tour. Our tour guide informed us that Walt Disney World has an unofficial "official" list. He went on to explain that there are "official", "unofficial", and "wishfull thinking" Hidden Mickeys. For example, in the Haunted Mansion, there was only 1 "official" Hidden Mickey on the ride. It was the one with the Mickey head over the left shoulder of the grim reaper towards the end of the ride. This is the only hidden Mickey intentionally designed by the imagineer's in the Haunted Mansion. If there was no such thing as a Hidden Mickey, then why would it be mentioned on the tour? Maybe we should get Mulder and Scully on the case.
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Originally posted by HauntedMansionFan
*sniff, sniff* Does anyone else smell buring rubber? Certainly smells like somebody slammed their breaks on real hard and jammed it into reverse.

While I'm quite sure that my previous posts did indeed state that there are many different definitions of what a Hidden Mickey is, I would be happy to point this out to you if you feel the need.

I have not changed (or reversed) anything that I previously posted.

Now, if some of the posters on the board feel the need or desire to argue with what my opinion of a Hidden Mickey is, then that is more their issue than mine.

As I stated in a prior post, I'm not forcing anyone to accept anything. I'm only providing my view of the subject. And, in fact, most of the info that I've posted has come from other sources. Namely, HiddenMickeys.org, An American Original: Walt Disney by Bob Thomas, and The Disney Touch by Ron Grover.

Thanks! :wave2:
 
Originally posted by ThreeCircles
While I'm quite sure that my previous posts did indeed state that there are many different definitions of what a Hidden Mickey is, I would be happy to point this out to you if you feel the need.
It is all in the way that you are presenting your "opinion", it sounds like you are trying to make it come off as fact.
 
Originally posted by HauntedMansionFan
It is all in the way that you are presenting your "opinion", it sounds like you are trying to make it come off as fact.

Hmmm...

I guess I just figured that people would understand that what I post is my opinion! I didn't realize that I needed to preempt everything i wrote with IMHO or IMO. Of course, I don't see others doing that either.
 
Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Hmmm...

I guess I just figured that people would understand that what I post is my opinion! I didn't realize that I needed to preempt everything i wrote with IMHO or IMO. Of course, I don't see others doing that either.
Perhaps it could be the matter of fact way that you said:
I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but that is not a Hidden Mickey.
 

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