News Round Up 2017


So, correct me if I'm wrong, but that means all Disney scheduled theatrical animation releases after Coco are all sequels and/or spin-offs?

I mean, not that this was THAT original, but it was a "Disney 1st attempt" movie at the tale (since Mickey was tv length)...

Right now, I see Incredibles 2 (June 2018), Wreck It Ralph 2 (Nov 2018), Planes 3 (Space, right?) (April 2019), Toy Story 4 (June 2019), Frozen 2 (Nov 2019)...am I missing any?

I mean, has Disney watched the market for direct sequels the last 2 years? At least domestically (and even internationally), there has been struggle...and to offer nothing not in this vein of sequel, sequel, sequel...I mean, Emoji, the worst animated movie supposedly ever made, is gonna hit $200M WW, probably b/c it at least had a breath of fresh air this animated sequel summer...now maybe Coco doesn't break big, and that (with Good Dinosaur) scared them into all sequels, but sequels don't always hit big either...not every movie will be Finding Dory - some will be Cars 3 bombs, too...and the trend has been for more sequels to play like Cars 3 vs Nemo 2...
 


So, correct me if I'm wrong, but that means all Disney scheduled theatrical animation releases after Coco are all sequels and/or spin-offs?

I mean, not that this was THAT original, but it was a "Disney 1st attempt" movie at the tale (since Mickey was tv length)...

Right now, I see Incredibles 2 (June 2018), Wreck It Ralph 2 (Nov 2018), Planes 3 (Space, right?) (April 2019), Toy Story 4 (June 2019), Frozen 2 (Nov 2019)...am I missing any?

I mean, has Disney watched the market for direct sequels the last 2 years? At least domestically (and even internationally), there has been struggle...and to offer nothing not in this vein of sequel, sequel, sequel...I mean, Emoji, the worst animated movie supposedly ever made, is gonna hit $200M WW, probably b/c it at least had a breath of fresh air this animated sequel summer...now maybe Coco doesn't break big, and that (with Good Dinosaur) scared them into all sequels, but sequels don't always hit big either...not every movie will be Finding Dory - some will be Cars 3 bombs, too...and the trend has been for more sequels to play like Cars 3 vs Nemo 2...

Or Planes 2. That couldn't have done well.

(Except in merchandising)
 
I like the splash one, the others I could take or leave

I sort of like the Tiki Room one


I thought it was odd that some are regularly priced $24.95 and some are regularly priced $24.99 ... like, why bother having a 4 cent difference between them?

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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but that means all Disney scheduled theatrical animation releases after Coco are all sequels and/or spin-offs?

I mean, not that this was THAT original, but it was a "Disney 1st attempt" movie at the tale (since Mickey was tv length)...

Right now, I see Incredibles 2 (June 2018), Wreck It Ralph 2 (Nov 2018), Planes 3 (Space, right?) (April 2019), Toy Story 4 (June 2019), Frozen 2 (Nov 2019)...am I missing any?

I mean, has Disney watched the market for direct sequels the last 2 years? At least domestically (and even internationally), there has been struggle...and to offer nothing not in this vein of sequel, sequel, sequel...I mean, Emoji, the worst animated movie supposedly ever made, is gonna hit $200M WW, probably b/c it at least had a breath of fresh air this animated sequel summer...now maybe Coco doesn't break big, and that (with Good Dinosaur) scared them into all sequels, but sequels don't always hit big either...not every movie will be Finding Dory - some will be Cars 3 bombs, too...and the trend has been for more sequels to play like Cars 3 vs Nemo 2...
Yes all remakes/sequels unless Disney has some untitled films in the mix. Coco is the only original film for a while. You have a ton of live action remakes coming and then the sequels. Did Cars 3 bomb that bad? What was the comparison with Cars 2? 3 was a better movie than 2.
 
Yes all remakes/sequels unless Disney has some untitled films in the mix. Coco is the only original film for a while. You have a ton of live action remakes coming and then the sequels. Did Cars 3 bomb that bad? What was the comparison with Cars 2? 3 was a better movie than 2.

Cars 2 Worldwide: $562,110,557

Cars 3 Worldwide: $374,364,060


I'm actually surprised. 3, IMO, was a lot better than 2.


 
Shaky at best....

The movie is still a month out from release.
I'm a little worried for Coco. They seem to be pushing advertising for the new Frozen short more than they are for Coco. When seeing Princess and the Frog in theaters this past weekend they showed what felt like an overly long trailer for the Frozen short before they even previewed Coco. Even people in front of us were openly questioning why they'd take so much focus from a feature and put it on a short.
 
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but that means all Disney scheduled theatrical animation releases after Coco are all sequels and/or spin-offs?

I mean, not that this was THAT original, but it was a "Disney 1st attempt" movie at the tale (since Mickey was tv length)...

Right now, I see Incredibles 2 (June 2018), Wreck It Ralph 2 (Nov 2018), Planes 3 (Space, right?) (April 2019), Toy Story 4 (June 2019), Frozen 2 (Nov 2019)...am I missing any?

I mean, has Disney watched the market for direct sequels the last 2 years? At least domestically (and even internationally), there has been struggle...and to offer nothing not in this vein of sequel, sequel, sequel...I mean, Emoji, the worst animated movie supposedly ever made, is gonna hit $200M WW, probably b/c it at least had a breath of fresh air this animated sequel summer...now maybe Coco doesn't break big, and that (with Good Dinosaur) scared them into all sequels, but sequels don't always hit big either...not every movie will be Finding Dory - some will be Cars 3 bombs, too...and the trend has been for more sequels to play like Cars 3 vs Nemo 2...
The article about the shelving of Gigantic that @rteetz posted had this quote by Ed Catmull (Walt Disney and Pixar Animation Studios President): “We are focusing our energies on another project that has been in the works, which we’ll be sharing more about soon, now set for Thanksgiving 2020.”

The article then referenced insiders who said the replacement 2020 film would be an original feature.

So we may still get an original in 2020, but I'm not too excited about the volume of sequels we're getting over the next few years. I'd far prefer a better mix of original features:sequels.
 
I'm a little worried for Coco. They seem to be pushing advertising for the new Frozen short more than they are for Coco. When seeing Princess and the Frog in theaters this past weekend they showed what felt like an overly long trailer for the Frozen short before they even previewed Coco. Even people in front of us were openly questioning why they'd take so much focus from a feature and put it on a short.

I don't think its a great sign that a Halloween movie is premiering Thanksgiving....

But perhaps there is a reasonable explanation on that?
 
Yes all remakes/sequels unless Disney has some untitled films in the mix. Coco is the only original film for a while. You have a ton of live action remakes coming and then the sequels. Did Cars 3 bomb that bad? What was the comparison with Cars 2? 3 was a better movie than 2.

as of Oct 9th, Cars 3 made $152.6m domestic, and $374.4 worldwide .... cars 2 made $191.5m domestic and $562.1m worldwide, so down a bit (not sure if 3 is still playing in some markets) - despite it being a far superior movie

Issue is the budget is so high - Cars 3 was $175m and of the worldwide receipts I think the studios only keep about 1/2 meanings Cars 3 likely just broke even. Now, they have merchandise and stuff so I am sure they will do ok, but not a great take
 
Even people in front of us were openly questioning why they'd take so much focus from a feature and put it on a short.
Because kids will see "Frozen" and tell their parents that they want to go see that. Kids might see a preview for Coco and might not want to see that since they don't know what it is.

Frozen is a proven success for Disney in this generation of kids, and we all know how much Disney likes to push anything Frozen.
 
I sort of like the Tiki Room one


I thought it was odd that some are regularly priced $24.95 and some are regularly priced $24.99 ... like, why bother having a 4 cent difference between them?

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When we were there in September this promotion was going on too in many of the stores for a variety of t-shirts...we may have gotten a few t-shirts this way :rolleyes1

Anyways the pricing was like that as well. My guess is normally when they decide not to have this promotion those t-shirts included in the promotion may or may not be away from each other in the store thus the pricing difference. With these above shirts (the tiki room, HM, JC, etc) I'm guessing they were following the pricing structure as the other shirts they do in the promotion even though yes it is odd to place like-style shirts with a small price difference such that they did.
 
I don't think its a great sign that a Halloween movie is premiering Thanksgiving....

But perhaps there is a reasonable explanation on that?
I could see maybe they don't want audiences not familiar with Dia de los Muertos to think it's just a skeleton kids movie? Sure the holiday happens through Halloween, but there's more to it and the traditions than what someone unfamiliar would associate with Halloween in the states.

And Hocus Pocus came out in July and that's a cult classic now :P
 
Tickets are now available for the Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire Hyper-Reality Experience coming to Downtown Disney and Disney Springs!

This experience will be opening at Disney Springs (Walt Disney World) on December 16, 2017.
This experience will be opening at Downtown Disney (Disneyland Resort) on January 5, 2018.

It looks like ticket prices will be $29.95 per person.

From the Disney Parks Blog Article: "Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire will transport guests deep into the Star Wars universe, walking freely and untethered throughout the multisensory experience with friends and family. In groups of four, teams will go undercover as stormtroopers to capture Imperial intelligence vital to the budding rebellion’s survival."

Purchase Tickets: https://www.thevoid.com

Disney Parks Blog Article: https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...the-void/?CMP=SOC-DPFY17Q4wo1005171011170047C

 
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When we were there in September this promotion was going on too in many of the stores for a variety of t-shirts...we may have gotten a few t-shirts this way :rolleyes1

Anyways the pricing was like that as well. My guess is normally when they decide not to have this promotion those t-shirts included in the promotion may or may not be away from each other in the store thus the pricing difference. With these above shirts (the tiki room, HM, JC, etc) I'm guessing they were following the pricing structure as the other shirts they do in the promotion even though yes it is odd to place like-style shirts with a small price difference such that they did.

yeah, I get that they are combining different groups of t-shirts together for the promotion ... guess I just find it odd that it is still all Disney controlled why have any shirts at all, on all of property, be 4 cents different ... like have everything end in _.95 or _.99

but I guess I shouldn't be surprised
 

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