TigerlilyAJ
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- Jul 19, 2011
ETA: If you don't like me, just read Blog Mickey below, since he says some of the things, but better. Next time I'll know to save my time and just wait for him to post, LOL.
What are people going to say when someone who was among the first to enter the park doesn't get a BG at all? Under this new system, it is theoretically possible that competing with everyone who was able to enter the park over 30-60 minutes before the BGs open up will result in someone who made the effort to get there early doesn't get to ride at all that day. It might not be the likeliest scenario, but the fact that it is possible means that the "unfair" label looks pretty apt to me.
And no, I am not someone who could possibly get my family there early enough to be in, say, the first 1000 (5000?) people. So you can keep your "self-benefit" aspersions, TYVM.
Those who compare this to the FP system at 60 days out:
1) The stakes are completely different. Not getting a FP for a ride is not the same at all, because you can always wait standby. Not getting a BG means No RotR for you. (Also, whether you're riding FP or standby, people who physically arrive in your specific line before you go before you do and people arriving after you go after you ride.)
2) You find out your FP luck/non-luck (like my 8-day trip that got me ZERO FOP FPs) 60 days in advance, and thus you can plan around it accordingly. For example, we are making a big effort to RD FOP by arriving 60 minutes before park opening, knowing we'll still be in a line. For this, you find out you lost out after you have traveled, arrived, and actually tapped in. I have PHs. If we don't get a BG, I can take my family to another park. But people without PHs will be stuck at a park where they don't get to enjoy its premier ride, even if they arrived hours before opening. Now I have to wonder if we have to go to DHS first every day until we get on a BG, because people who got there after we did might get a BG and we don't on the days I actually planned as DHS days. So now more days might require ungodly wake-up times.
It actually makes me wistful for all the scheduling shuffling, added DHS day, and stressful antics I had to do in 2016 to get my kids into Jedi Training. At least arriving first meant we got a spot and even got to choose when they went.
3) Saying something is like the 60-days-out FP system does not make it look good, fair, or satisfying in any way to me!
This change does not appear to have anything to do with fairness, but rather trying to dissuade people from coming earlier and earlier. All of my experiences with Disney computing services give me zero reason to expect that the BG system is ready to take on so many people simultaneously trying to join BGs when the clock strikes 7:00am. It all sounds more stressful because it is more random.
What are people going to say when someone who was among the first to enter the park doesn't get a BG at all? Under this new system, it is theoretically possible that competing with everyone who was able to enter the park over 30-60 minutes before the BGs open up will result in someone who made the effort to get there early doesn't get to ride at all that day. It might not be the likeliest scenario, but the fact that it is possible means that the "unfair" label looks pretty apt to me.
And no, I am not someone who could possibly get my family there early enough to be in, say, the first 1000 (5000?) people. So you can keep your "self-benefit" aspersions, TYVM.
Those who compare this to the FP system at 60 days out:
1) The stakes are completely different. Not getting a FP for a ride is not the same at all, because you can always wait standby. Not getting a BG means No RotR for you. (Also, whether you're riding FP or standby, people who physically arrive in your specific line before you go before you do and people arriving after you go after you ride.)
2) You find out your FP luck/non-luck (like my 8-day trip that got me ZERO FOP FPs) 60 days in advance, and thus you can plan around it accordingly. For example, we are making a big effort to RD FOP by arriving 60 minutes before park opening, knowing we'll still be in a line. For this, you find out you lost out after you have traveled, arrived, and actually tapped in. I have PHs. If we don't get a BG, I can take my family to another park. But people without PHs will be stuck at a park where they don't get to enjoy its premier ride, even if they arrived hours before opening. Now I have to wonder if we have to go to DHS first every day until we get on a BG, because people who got there after we did might get a BG and we don't on the days I actually planned as DHS days. So now more days might require ungodly wake-up times.
It actually makes me wistful for all the scheduling shuffling, added DHS day, and stressful antics I had to do in 2016 to get my kids into Jedi Training. At least arriving first meant we got a spot and even got to choose when they went.
3) Saying something is like the 60-days-out FP system does not make it look good, fair, or satisfying in any way to me!
This change does not appear to have anything to do with fairness, but rather trying to dissuade people from coming earlier and earlier. All of my experiences with Disney computing services give me zero reason to expect that the BG system is ready to take on so many people simultaneously trying to join BGs when the clock strikes 7:00am. It all sounds more stressful because it is more random.
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