LOST POINTS - Cancelled trip last week of June, due to COVID and Parks not being open: Disney will not give back points

Jo2103

Earning My Ears
Joined
Jan 30, 2016
Disney Hotels open June 22 but the parks do not open until July 11. I cancelled my DVC reservation for June 25-July 4 because of the parks being closed and concern over COVID. I was advised by Member services this weekend that they would not give my points back and that I can not bank them. They said the Hotel is Open on those days and since you cancelled your reservation you are out of luck and loose your points. This is really not fair, if the parks are not open, why would I go there and stay at the hotel. I was told that that was their policy.

What Disney did to me as a member on this issue, is simply not right. I have been a DVC member since 2007, I own 3 contracts. My family has spent thousands of dollars visiting their parks and hotels over the years and this is how they treat their members. I am so mad about this issue, I am nearly to the point of being done with Disney and my DVC.

Does anyone have any suggestion on who or where I should contact to give Disney one last chance to make this right?
 
Unfortunately, as owners, we are not guaranteed parks as part of our ownership,

You signed up for that when you bought. It certainly is frustrating but as long as DVC resorts are open for your points, you are getting exactly what you are entitled to,

They made it clear in April, that late banking would not be allowed unless a reservation was during closure and to follow normal guidelines when considering what to do,

I am sorry it is not what you want to hear.
 
Definitely send either an email or letter. Why did DVC notify Members of the Park opening dates and the Resort dates in the same email? If one purpose was to trap you in a reservation, which you would not want bc no parks, or would not want bc the steps needed to comply w park visits might be too difficult (based on age or pre-existing conditions, or whatever) then this email accomplished that. Sorry if I seem too cynical, but after 28 years of membership, DVC has lost its pixie dust.
 
Unfortunately, as owners, we are not guaranteed parks as part of our ownership,

You signed up for that when you bought. It certainly is frustrating but as long as DVC resorts are open for your points, you are getting exactly what you are entitled to,

They made it clear in April, that late banking would not be allowed unless a reservation was during closure and to follow normal guidelines when considering what to do,

I am sorry it is not what you want to hear.
Like Sandi said, we are not guaranteed parks as part of our timeshare.
So if you canceled your trip, and the resort is open and accepting guests, then cancellation rules apply.
 
FWIW, I think the MOST you can hope for is that the points that were returned to your account don't go into holding.
 
This is certainly frustrating and seems unfair, and I would bet there are a ton of people in your position, being it's a holiday week. Trying to find a silver lining...could you stay at the resort and go to Universal? I read they are running a special on tix. Seaworld? You could visit Kennedy Space Center and Cocoa Beach (within about 45 min). I know it's not a replacement for the parks, but you would be able to use your points. Just a thought. When do your points expire?
 
This is certainly frustrating and seems unfair, and I would bet there are a ton of people in your position, being it's a holiday week. Trying to find a silver lining...could you stay at the resort and go to Universal? I read they are running a special on tix. Seaworld? You could visit Kennedy Space Center and Cocoa Beach (within about 45 min). I know it's not a replacement for the parks, but you would be able to use your points. Just a thought. When do your points expire?
Agree with the others, including with how bothered you are by Disney's refusal to refund your points. . .but as pointed out, harsh as it seems, that's DVC policy, and given the amount of forgiveness they've handed out, I don't see them adjusting that view.

That aside, I love the suggestion above--spend your dollars elsewhere. Disney has you on the hook for the resort, so stay there and enjoy but travel to US on their special ticket price offer. Dine outside of Disney. Find day excursions to the beach. Just as Disney is holding you to their rules, use those rules to stay in a prepaid room yet get away from the Disney bubble and give your money to other companies. That is exactly what I would do under your circumstances.
 
Disney Hotels open June 22 but the parks do not open until July 11. I cancelled my DVC reservation for June 25-July 4 because of the parks being closed and concern over COVID. I was advised by Member services this weekend that they would not give my points back and that I can not bank them. They said the Hotel is Open on those days and since you cancelled your reservation you are out of luck and loose your points. This is really not fair, if the parks are not open, why would I go there and stay at the hotel. I was told that that was their policy.

What Disney did to me as a member on this issue, is simply not right. I have been a DVC member since 2007, I own 3 contracts. My family has spent thousands of dollars visiting their parks and hotels over the years and this is how they treat their members. I am so mad about this issue, I am nearly to the point of being done with Disney and my DVC.

Does anyone have any suggestion on who or where I should contact to give Disney one last chance to make this right?
Have you been getting the emails from DVC? If you don’t have an updated email on file with them, and your communication preferences set properly, it’s possible that you didn’t. These same updates were also published on the member website as they were rolled out.

March 13 - an email went out to members alerting them to resorts closures. Members are told that holding penalties would be suspended if they should decide to cancel a reservation set to begin in less than 31 days.

March 16 - another email went out, this time to clarify that while holding penalties have been suspended, all banking rules remain in place.

March 28 - an email went out stating that if a reservation using borrowed points is cancelled, regardless of arrival date, the borrowed points will be returned to their original UY. In addition, Reservation Points used for Disney Collection hotels would be returned as Reservation Points, banked points from the previous UY would be returned to the current UY, and any OTUPs would be returned to the current UY. Management was also exploring options as to what could be done for members with points expiring during the closure.

April 25 - an email went out alerting members with April and June UYs that if they had used 2019 points for a reservation that fell during the closure, those points would be extended one year from their current expiration date. No other UYs were added at this time. In addition, any 2018 points that had been banked into April or June 2019 UYs and used for reservations affected by the closure would be extended for 6 months from their current expiration date. DVC also declined to extend their expiring developer points. Members were also advised in this same email that in order to accommodate these extensions, all vacation club members would be restricted from borrowing more than 50% of the points per contract in order to make any future reservations.

May 27 - an email went out regarding planned health and safety precautions for the re-opening of resorts. August, September and October UYs are added to the list of exceptions for current UY and banked points affected by the closure. The expiration of all 2018 banked April, June, August, September, and October UY points used for reservations during the closure was set to November 30, 2020. Current points from those affected UYs and used for a reservation affected by the closure were given an extension of one year beyond their current expiration date.

Unfortunately for you, none of those extensions apply because your reservation falls at a time when the resort is open. So, while DVC is doing what they can to assist those members who had no choice when their reservations were cancelled by DVC, they are not doing the same for those who choose to cancel while the resorts are open. Phone CMs are being directed not to make exceptions.
 
Disney Hotels open June 22 but the parks do not open until July 11. I cancelled my DVC reservation for June 25-July 4 because of the parks being closed and concern over COVID. I was advised by Member services this weekend that they would not give my points back and that I can not bank them.

I'm confused because you most certainly get your points back. That would happen even if they weren't making exceptions for points in holding. The issue is that you must use them before the end of your UY and as others have mentioned the parks are not a guarantee for DVC.

Did you really mean they won't give you your points back at all? Or just that they wouldn't extend them? You can rent them if you wish or since it sounds like they are current points you might find someone who wants a transfer. Even if it's an Aug UY and not Sept you still could probably get a rental done that would cover your MF's plus a bit more.
 
We had people wondering why resorts weren't open and if DVC had a responsibility to open them. If they're open, you don't get a "break" unfortunately.

I'm sure they knew this was going to upset people in "the gap" and they wanted the gap to be as small as possible. However, if there's no good reason to be closed, they had to open to not upset other people.

Sometimes timing is everything.

Did you cancel before you knew they were opening?
 
In the original post, OP states she was told by Disney that she can’t bank her cancelled points. Maybe she is going to lose them because they expire before the parks open.
 
In the original post, OP states she was told by Disney that she can’t bank her cancelled points. Maybe she is going to lose them because they expire before the parks open.

There are no July UY's so that's not possible. They must be either August or September.
 
In the original post, OP states she was told by Disney that she can’t bank her cancelled points. Maybe she is going to lose them because they expire before the parks open.

I got the sense that because they are beyond banking window, they will be lost in the sense the owner won’t be able to travel on them before they expire,

To be beyond banking window, it must be a Aug, Sept or Oct UY of 2019 points
 
The contracts pretty specifically say that ownership doesn't guarantee park access, and if the parks cease to exist you're still in the timeshare.

As harsh as this reality is, it is unfortunately true in this case. It would be the same sort of scenario as if VGC was open but DL hit fire code capacity.

Are the points in holding? The only way to salvage this is to find availability anywhere surrounding July 11th. Best of luck finding options, this is tough to read about =/
 
As harsh as this reality is, it is unfortunately true in this case. It would be the same sort of scenario as if VGC was open but DL hit fire code capacity.

Are the points in holding? The only way to salvage this is to find availability anywhere surrounding July 11th. Best of luck finding options, this is tough to read about =/

They are waiving holding, but even if they were not, it would only apply to check ins from July 2nd and sooner
 

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