ROFR Thread April to June 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

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Whomp, whomp...

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jjenni22---$165-$17285-100-BLT-Feb-0/21, 114/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 4/5, taken 5/2
jjenni22---$164-$19082-110-BLT-Feb-0/21, 96/22, 110/23, 110/24- sent 4/7, taken 5/8
jjenni22---$164-$18671-110-BLT-Feb-0/21, 38/22, 110/23, 110/24- sent 4/7, taken 5/8
what in the world. i would have thought these would be safe at these price points.
 
I definitely think there's a celebrity aspect to it. They have Marissa and Derek, and Melissa and Derek are YouTube-famous within this little niche community.
I agree. Marissa is hot, and Derek is, well.... Derek. J/K! Those folks at the resale market are definitely top notch sales people. My guide Andy Berry called me on my birthday and sends me Christmas cards and I actually appreciate it. They play the game very well.
 
Absolutely...I feel the same way at AKV...it does nothing for me and won't stay there. I was more trying to indicate that it is selling more than many of us thought it would because the resort itself is outweighing the resale restrictions for buyers who enjoy it!
I feel the same about Riv & AKL.. zero appeal for me… which is why there’s something for everyone 👍🏻
 
Completely agree that it ultimately lies with the seller. I just think it interesting that listings on the sponsors site are generally always more expensive than other sites. As for you waiting for Disney, oh the irony. In the end, you always end up waiting when it comes to resale.

Sure do!
 
what in the world. i would have thought these would be safe at these price points.
The listing agent warned us when she got the buyer to accept our offer. She said Disney has been taking them at this level, so I think it just might not have been reported here. Since this is the highest I've seen it go in months, I think we're just going to hold off for a few months and see if it cools back down. There's a ton of inventory out there right now, so maybe Disney's just trying to clean up the supply.
 
Your point has merit, especially if there is a price difference of $30pp or more. I paid $125pp for mine. If I had bought a non-sub contract for $100pp, it would take me 11.6 years to make up for the difference in annual dues. Still worth it IMO. The biggest draw for me is the ability to sell it again. I don’t know about you but there are a TON of AUL listings in the market right now and I have no idea how sellers expect to sell them for what they’re listing. At least with a sub contract, it stands out more and is likely to sell faster. Just my take on it.
Subs dues seem to be a perceived saving than an actual one at current prices. Aulani heading to $150 pp is, in my view, ridiculous. Aulani was never popular until post covid when everyone started snapping them up. I wonder how long until the market is awash with them. I don't see Aulani maintaining this momentum long term.

I've been tempted to buy Aulani several times but I can't pull the trigger because I'm concerned I won't be able to offload it in a buyer's market. I'm actually more worried about selling an Aulani contract than my RVA one. That, and I can easily book ocean views at 7 months so home resort advantage is needless.
 
Completely agree that it ultimately lies with the seller. I just think it interesting that listings on the sponsors site are generally always more expensive than other sites. As for you waiting for Disney, oh the irony. In the end, you always end up waiting when it comes to resale.
I don't know if that's true.

I think you tend to see more variation in prices on the broker sites with less inventory. But 2 of the best deals I've ever gotten were on dvcresalemarket.
 
No way they sell that many direct points at the current prices?
They did this at Boardwalk in November:

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And this at Bay Lake Tower in February:

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There will always be a market for sold out resorts at sold out prices for Direct-only members who want to add on at their home resort and would never consider resale. Then, for any glut of ROFR-acquired points beyond that demand, Disney can run these one-off fire sales.
 
Subs dues seem to be a perceived saving than an actual one at current prices. Aulani heading to $150 pp is, in my view, ridiculous. Aulani was never popular until post covid when everyone started snapping them up. I wonder how long until the market is awash with them. I don't see Aulani maintaining this momentum long term.

I've been tempted to buy Aulani several times but I can't pull the trigger because I'm concerned I won't be able to offload it in a buyer's market. I'm actually more worried about selling an Aulani contract than my RVA one. That, and I can easily book ocean views at 7 months so home resort advantage is needless.
I agree with this statement. I'm often tempted to get a contract but it would have to be at a much better price than the current market, and I would only want a small contract of 50 or less. Just to maybe get a smaller room if a large group of people come with. Like you said I have other points that work there at the 7 month mark.
 
Subs dues seem to be a perceived saving than an actual one at current prices. Aulani heading to $150 pp is, in my view, ridiculous. Aulani was never popular until post covid when everyone started snapping them up. I wonder how long until the market is awash with them. I don't see Aulani maintaining this momentum long term.
Aulani is nowhere near $150. It can be had in decent sizes, loaded, for $115 easy, and lower if you want to work for it.

I've been tempted to buy Aulani several times but I can't pull the trigger because I'm concerned I won't be able to offload it in a buyer's market. I'm actually more worried about selling an Aulani contract than my RVA one.
Yes, it only makes sense to buy Aulani if you steal it. But it's the only resort you CAN steal because every other resort has a ROFR floor. I'm not buying Aulani for Aulani's sake per se. I'm buying Aulani because Disney has pushed Saratoga to $140.

That, and I can easily book ocean views at 7 months so home resort advantage is needless.
Hawaii is a much bigger trip to me than Florida. Aulani has pretty good 7 month availability, but 1) I'll never plan a trip to Hawaii on less than 11 months notice and 2) ending up with flights to Hawaii and no room is more-screwed than ending up with flights to Orlando and no room. Being locked out a 7 months isn't likely, but it's much worse if it does happen.

I still say "don't buy Aulani for SAP if you'll never stay at Aulani," but I really like Aulani for SAP if you're going to use it at Aulani sometimes.
 
I agree with this statement. I'm often tempted to get a contract but it would have to be at a much better price than the current market, and I would only want a small contract of 50 or less. Just to maybe get a smaller room if a large group of people come with. Like you said I have other points that work there at the 7 month mark.
I don't think 7 month availability is nearly as favorable as you all are implying it is. You can probably get in at 7 months, but a forced split say is going to be extremely likely most times of the year.
 
Aulani is nowhere near $150. It can be had in decent sizes, loaded, for $115 easy, and lower if you want to work for it.

Hawaii is a much bigger trip to me than Florida. Aulani has pretty good 7 month availability, but 1) I'll never plan a trip to Hawaii on less than 11 months notice and 2) ending up with flights to Hawaii and no room is more-screwed than ending up with flights to Orlando and no room. Being locked out a 7 months isn't likely, but it's much worse if it does happen.
I should have clarified: some brokers are listing Aulani at $150.

I'm happy to take my chance with 7 months. Aulani is easier to get to from Australia with WDW being the important booking at 11 months. I use Aulani and VGC as a stop over.
 
Ma'am you might be the only person on the planet who dislikes both RIV and DAKL.


I'm not who you were referring to, but....that's me too. I've stayed at AKL twice and hope never to do that again. And I have no desire to EVER stay at RIV, although it does look kind of pretty.

I'm also not a fan of CCV/WL, but don't tell anyone because I think there's some law against that!

You're a Beach Club person, aren't you?

Again, not who you were asking, but....YUP! Is there some connection?
 
I'm not who you were referring to, but....that's me too. I've stayed at AKL twice and hope never to do that again. And I have no desire to EVER stay at RIV, although it does look kind of pretty.

I'm also not a fan of CCV/WL, but don't tell anyone because I think there's some law against that!




Again, not who you were asking, but....YUP! Is there some connection?
All of the other resorts don't smell of fish. :p
 
I don't think 7 month availability is nearly as favorable as you all are implying it is. You can probably get in at 7 months, but a forced split say is going to be extremely likely most times of the year.
It really is. As long as you're good with Ocean View, seven months is pretty golden. (Thanksgiving and Xmas require home resort advantage etc)
 
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