ROFR Thread July to Sept 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Ginamarie]

Does anyone know if the Transient Accommodation Tax is lower for stays using subsidized points?

It’s based on room size. It has nothing to do with dues paid.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Does anyone know if the Transient Accommodation Tax is lower for stays using subsidized points?

I can’t see why it would be

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It’s based on room size. It has nothing to do with dues paid.

Not according to the Hawaii Department of Taxation. They hide the math, but it's definitely based on dues.



But you're right that "subsidized dues" don't matter. They don't reduce the total dues on the property, it's just that Disney pays a piece of them.

 

[Ginamarie]

Not according to the Hawaii Department of Taxation. They hide the math, but it's definitely based on dues.

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But you're right that "subsidized dues" don't matter. They don't reduce the total dues on the property, it's just that Disney pays a piece of them.

Interesting!
I just know it’s costing us a pretty penny this year. (12 nights with a one bedroom and a two bedroom)

 

[PolynesianPip]

Ok, this may be a dumb question but the recent posts about inclusion of a middle name/matching membership got me thinking…

How do they link up/connect the DVC membership to your MDE profile? My husband goes by his middle name, so that’s what his MDE profile we set up years ago uses. We are currently waiting to close on our first DVC contract, and with it being a real estate transaction we are using his legal name instead. Could there be some sort of hiccup with associating his membership with his existing MDE due to a discrepancy with the name?

Did you figure out the answer? Have you done it yet?

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Interesting!
I just know it’s costing us a pretty penny this year. (12 nights with a one bedroom and a two bedroom)

12 nights at Aulani! That’s insane!

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

Not according to the Hawaii Department of Taxation. They hide the math, but it's definitely based on dues.

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But you're right that "subsidized dues" don't matter. They don't reduce the total dues on the property, it's just that Disney pays a piece of them.

This is very helpful! Thanks Cap!

 

[Chia1974]

12 nights at Aulani! That’s insane!

I’m planning my first Aulani trip in 2023 or 24. How many days would you suggest? Hoping to stop at Disneyland to break up the long flight if VGC or even VDH is possible.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I’m planning my first Aulani trip in 2023 or 24. How many days would you suggest? Hoping to stop at Disneyland to break up the long flight if VGC or even VDH is possible.

All depends on how much you want to do and when you think you'll be back. Our first trip was 7 nights at a moderate pace and we felt it was too short. Our second trip was 9 nights with a loaded itinerary and we felt it was too short. Our next trip will be 8 or 9 nights at a moderate pace.

If you're planning this as a once-in-a-lifetime trip, your might feel compelled to do all that Oahu has to offer, which would be like two weeks.

 

[Chia1974]

All depends on how much you want to do and when you think you'll be back. Our first trip was 7 nights at a moderate pace and we felt it was too short. Our second trip was 9 nights with a loaded itinerary and we felt it was too short. Our next trip will be 8 or 9 nights at a moderate pace.

If you're planning this as a once-in-a-lifetime trip, your might feel compelled to do all that Oahu has to offer, which would be like two weeks.

We do own an Aulani contract and do hope to go more often if the flight is not sooo long from the east coast. I want to go for my 50th, maybe not once but definitely the first in the lifetime. 10 days is doable I think but I need to plan how many points to bank and borrow.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

We do own an Aulani contract and do hope to go more often if the flight is not sooo long from the east coast. I want to go for my 50th, maybe not once but definitely the first in the lifetime. 10 days is doable I think but I need to plan how many points to bank and borrow.

This is a very unpopular opinion but I mean it sincerely. The flight isn't that bad at all. Most people are used to flying on narrow-body jets with a 3-3 seating configuration. But the direct flights from the East Coast are on wide body 2-4-2 jets, which are so much more comfortable, especially if you pay a bit extra for Premium Economy or Extra Comfort or whatever they call it. I'd rather fly 11 hours from Boston to Honolulu on a big plane than 6 hours from Boston to Los Angeles on a small plane.

My recent long-haul trips:
- Hawaii, kids 5 and 2, wife 8 months pregnant
- Hawaii, kids 7, 4, and 1, with masks
- Vancouver, kids 7, 4, and 2, with masks

I found the Hawaii flights to be infinitely more pleasant.

 

[limace]

I’d suggest doing some time on another island while you are there! We love Maui-amazing snorkeling.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I’d suggest doing some time on another island while you are there! We love Maui-amazing snorkeling.

IMO it's too much coming from the East Coast unless you have at least two weeks. Checking in, unpacking, getting settled, repacking, checking out, back to the airport, return the rental car, rent a new car, off to a new hotel, checking in, unpacking, getting settled... You consume way too much of your available time with logistics and transportation.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I’m planning my first Aulani trip in 2023 or 24. How many days would you suggest? Hoping to stop at Disneyland to break up the long flight if VGC or even VDH is possible.

I would do 4-5 nights at Aulani and 5 nights on Maui or Kauai.

 

[Imurhuckleberry]

I'd rather fly 11 hours from Boston to Honolulu on a big plane than 6 hours from Boston to Los Angeles on a small plane

100% this! Those big planes are built for long flights. so much nicer even in cattle class.

You're still spending the same amount of time in the air so I never understood why anyone would want to split it up with a multi hour layover in a crowded airport.

Different story if you're enjoying a 2-3 day stopover on the west coast. But not a same day connection. That just creates an 18 hour, nightmare travel day.

Bring some books, video games, good headphones (noise cancelling), snacks, and maybe even sleep aid

 

[Chia1974]

IMO it's too much coming from the East Coast unless you have at least two weeks. Checking in, unpacking, getting settled, repacking, checking out, back to the airport, return the rental car, rent a new car, off to a new hotel, checking in, unpacking, getting settled... You consume way too much of your available time with logistics and transportation.

I flew 17 hour nonstop flight a few times to Asia years ago. I flew premium economy because I’m not a person can fall asleep on the plane.

 

[Brian Noble]

Unfortunately, DTW has not flown direct to any of the islands in a while, but Delta is adding one to HNL in '23. When we are forced to connect, we always include one extra night on the return leg somewhere on the west coast to avoid the red-eye and break up the travel a little bit. After last summer's experience landing in OGG at 9PM local, we might start breaking up the trip there as well.

And strong endorsement of the "two weeks, minimum" idea coming from that far away--even if you're staying only on one island. Our last trip was a week on Maui followed by two weeks on Kauai, and that was not too long. Next summer we are planning one week on the Big Island followed by a week on Kauai, and that might be on the short side...

As for snorkeling: we thought the best shoreline options were around the Big Island, especially 49 Black Sand, though Captain Cook's itself was meh. Molokini crater off Maui was outstanding but it requires a charter/tour boat to get there.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

When we are forced to connect, we always include one extra night on the return leg somewhere on the west coast to avoid the red-eye and break up the travel a little bit.

Yuuuuup. My kids are absolute pros flying West. Legitimately perfect behavior. The redeye coming East was a NIGHTMARE. None of them slept more than 10 minutes, meaning I didn't sleep more than 10 minutes. The subsequent drive home (~2 hours from Boston around 6am) was legitimately dangerous. I've never been so tired in my life.

 

[pinkxray]

I saw BLT 50 pointer listed for $140 today.
Not my use year.
Almost definitely will be taken in ROFR.

I was still really tempted to bid on it.

I missed this one. Was it on a site that can be shared here?
I am debating on buying BLT resale or waiting for Poly 2. If I saw a small BLT contract for $140 I would definitely give it a shot.

Maybe someone at dvc falls asleep while throwing darts at ROFR and I get lucky.

 

[CarolynFH]

Unfortunately, DTW has not flown direct to any of the islands in a while, but Delta is adding one to HNL in '23. When we are forced to connect, we always include one extra night on the return leg somewhere on the west coast to avoid the red-eye and break up the travel a little bit. After last summer's experience landing in OGG at 9PM local, we might start breaking up the trip there as well.

And strong endorsement of the "two weeks, minimum" idea coming from that far away--even if you're staying only on one island. Our last trip was a week on Maui followed by two weeks on Kauai, and that was not too long. Next summer we are planning one week on the Big Island followed by a week on Kauai, and that might be on the short side...

As for snorkeling: we thought the best shoreline options were around the Big Island, especially 49 Black Sand, though Captain Cook's itself was meh. Molokini crater off Maui was outstanding but it requires a charter/tour boat to get there.

Sounds to me as if you're gradually working towards living there....

But I agree - we live in Texas, and even with that the nonstop flights home from HNL were killers. Next time I hope to stop off in Anaheim for a couple of days on the way back.