Let's speculate about Polynesian some more!

[Jlo85]

So, I think the talk of the “trust” is getting blown out of proportion. I’m no expert, but I do see that Marriott moved towards a trust model 20 years ago with ‘MVC Trust’. All of their new resorts are in the trust, and although you get a deed for the trust, buyers really own no property. It’s more RTU from what I can tell

I see benefits for Disney in pursuing that model since they can just sell Disney and not a specific resort. But that model also has problems like high maintenance fees from all the beach resorts. You can still buy resale for Marriott trust points, you just have to pay the Marriott fee, which isn’t that bad.

Also, if Disney was moving to that model, I think they would stick with DVC branding. Palmetto whatever is just not the right brand name for them to be doing that IMO. I think it personally could be for an entirely different timeshare brand in the WDW area.

 

[Dobermanns]

Also, if Disney was moving to that model, I think they would stick with DVC branding. Palmetto whatever is just not the right brand name for them to be doing that IMO. I think it personally could be for an entirely different timeshare brand in the WDW area.

Am I the only one who was thinking palmetto bug?

 

[tidefan]

Am I the only one who was thinking palmetto bug?

I was thinking Palmetto in relation to South Carolina (which could mean HHI?)

 

[maui22]

Am I the only one who was thinking palmetto bug?

lol, I was thinking Disney may want to move this trust to South Carolina.

 

[maui22]

I was thinking Palmetto in relation to South Carolina (which could mean HHI?)

You type faster than I do. Great (or maybe it’s goofy) minds think alike.

 

[CarolynFH]

Palmetto whatever is just not the right brand name for them to be doing that IMO.

Palmetto is a name Disney has used for other entities. For example, I think Palmetto Financing is the in-house DVC financing company. The Palmetto Trust could easily operate as DBA Disney Vacation Ownership Trust or whatever.

 

[Jlo85]

Palmetto is a name Disney has used for other entities. For example, I think Palmetto Financing is the in-house DVC financing company. The Palmetto Trust could easily operate as DBA Disney Vacation Ownership Trust or whatever.

It’s Palm Financial, right?

I guess it’s possible, but Marriott didn’t do a DBA for their trust, and we know DVC copies MVC. And a weird DBA would still create brand confusion since they would still need to issue deeds with the trust name.

 

[CarolynFH]

It’s Palm Financial, right?

I guess it’s possible, but Marriott didn’t do a DBA for their trust, and we know DVC copies MVC. And a weird DBA would still create brand confusion since they would still need to issue deeds with the trust name.

Yes, you’re right, Palm Financial! Thanks!

In any case, I don’t think Palmetto Trust would be a problem. They probably already know how they’re going to integrate it into the DVC structure.

 

[grahf1234]

Would think everyone would be happy if everything is unrestricted, including riviera owners who some assume that they like these restrictions. If anything I’d think they’d benefit the most from unrestricting everything. I know buy where you want to stay, no return guaranteed, hold forever etc. but sometimes life just happens and you need to offload this stuff, and dvd’s decisions as of late keep making that value worse.

Can’t say it’s unfair necessarily but it’s definitely a bummer even for me (don’t own riv) and understand their frustrations. I don’t feel there’s a plan like many expressed here, hopefully things get better for everyone.

 

[Jwaire]

I still think Disney should call this River Country DVC. Give it the best pool on property (after all dues will pay for it). I would even suggest a lazy river.

Go back to the original concept, Fort Wilderness Junction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Wilderness_Junction

 

[cbailey1616]

non-poly owners are going to have little to no shot at grabbing poly2 at 7 months right? Besides for maybe a day or two.

 

[Jwaire]

non-poly owners are going to have little to no shot at grabbing poly2 at 7 months right? Besides for maybe a day or two.

Unlike now, probably all of the Polynesian will be booked by the 7 month window.

 

[Jwaire]

Palmetto is a name Disney has used for other entities. For example, I think Palmetto Financing is the in-house DVC financing company. The Palmetto Trust could easily operate as DBA Disney Vacation Ownership Trust or whatever.

Palmetto bugs is what other hotels call roaches.

 

[maui22]

Palmetto bugs is what other hotels call roaches.

Recently experienced what Hawaiians call a B52 cockroach. Huge and could fly.

 

[Jwaire]

Recently experienced what Hawaiians call a B52 cockroach. Huge and could fly.

I had an experience once at the Poly and still shudder thinking about it.

 

[GoingSince1990]

non-poly owners are going to have little to no shot at grabbing poly2 at 7 months right? Besides for maybe a day or two.

It depends on the point chart, but I would not be surprised if 1BR villas are fairly available at 7 months at non-peak times of the year.

 

[intamin]

It depends on the point chart, but I would not be surprised if 1BR villas are fairly available at 7 months at non-peak times of the year.

This is my thought as well, like I’ve been saying on here these point charts are going to be just as if not more expensive than VGF. Just based on that I expect 2BRs in September to go for mid 300s and most of the time landing in the mid 400s for a 2BR for a week. People are going to find out pretty quickly their 2BR at Poly doesn’t cost the same amount that a 2BR does at CCV and aren’t going to be able to afford it without a 150-200 point add on from their original contract. A good chunk of the people on here I could see doing it but most normal people who don’t spend their time obsessing over DVC? Probably not. I think my other poll that asked how many points everybody owns shows the disparity between the average disboards user and average DVC member. Most people do not have 4-500+ points like we do on here. I do think that 7 month availability will decrease at Poly and will probably be more similar to VGF but I expect owners to try and trade out at 7 months because of the point charts.

 

[wiihoo888]

Would think everyone would be happy if everything is unrestricted, including riviera owners who some assume that they like these restrictions. If anything I’d think they’d benefit the most from unrestricting everything. I know buy where you want to stay, no return guaranteed, hold forever etc. but sometimes life just happens and you need to offload this stuff, and dvd’s decisions as of late keep making that value worse.

Can’t say it’s unfair necessarily but it’s definitely a bummer even for me (don’t own riv) and understand their frustrations. I don’t feel there’s a plan like many expressed here, hopefully things get better for everyone.

Riviera owner here. You are correct. Haven’t heard from anyone who was excited about the restrictions. Those of us expressing what we heard, about all future builds having restrictions, were only told that because we were so uncomfortable with the ding dang restrictions. The Poly Tower just seemed different. I get it didn‘t for some. It did though for a whole lot of us. Maybe it was because we had reckoned that the GFV refurb was not restricted because it was a refurb. Now the tower seems it could be different because of the trust. Who knows. Would love to see the restrictions just poof go away. It’s all up to the fickle finger of DVC fate….and right now we’re all left spitballing. If only there was a meeting where they could clarify all of this…..

 

[mamaofsix]

It depends on the point chart, but I would not be surprised if 1BR villas are fairly available at 7 months at non-peak times of the year.

If we use VGF as a guide, there are never 1 or 2 bedrooms available at the 7 month mark, any time of year. You have to own there to get them.

There are studios available at 7 months during non-peak times at VGF now that the 2nd phase has been added. I expect Poly will be the same because the ratio of studios to multi-bedroom units is similar.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

If we use VGF as a guide, there are never 1 or 2 bedrooms available at the 7 month mark, any time of year. You have to own there to get them.

There are studios available at 7 months during non-peak times at VGF now that the 2nd phase has been added. I expect Poly will be the same because the ratio of studios to multi-bedroom units is similar.

That’s not true with respect to 1 bedroom lake view units. Those aren’t available at peak times, but they are available off-peak.