Happiest Place on Earth PTR: Lord, Do We Need It (Updated: 10/12)

mmackeymouse

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We are just north of 2 months out from our big family vacation, so I will give you a little backstory, and then delve into the actual plans portion of the pre-trip report.

The planning process began in Fall 2015, and it isn't easy getting all the gears to shift into place. This is my nephew Noah's first trip to Disney, and at 16 months at the time of the trip, we're looking forward to it. But, there are also 4 working adults to try to sync up vacation time, and as you all know, it isn't always easy. My Dad has to put in for vacation for the entire year the November before, so we had to pick weeks and be okay with it. We knew we wanted to incorporate a cruise, so part of the decision hinged on whether to do only cruise or land and sea. And then, there is the decision of which port, which itinerary, which resort to stay at WDW, the usual.

So, the decision was ultimately made to fly into Orlando either late 10/28 or early 10/29, spend Saturday and Sunday at WDW, go on the 10/31 4 night cruise, and follow that up with the remainder of Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday at WDW.

Then, we got a phone call...
 
About that cliffhanger...

I just wanted to set the tone of the PTR. Expect it to be pretty drama-filled. And, when I say drama, I'm not exaggerating. Our world has been kind of a mess lately, hence the subtitle to my humble trip report. Actually, if you wrote a manuscript about our last year, and submitted it to Hollywood, they would probably reject it, saying there is no way it could happen, it's too fictional. But, that's been our life.

I will introduce you to our crew, pictures to come later on.

Myself- Melissa, a single early 30s lady with a love for all things Disney, including films, parks, music, merchandise, fostered by incredibly generous and loving parents.

Dad/Jim- He was a 1971-er, and his and my mom's Honeymoon was to Disney World, so I guess you could say that set the stage for our entire lives. He is kind of gruff and stern, but he loves Disney as much as any of us, if not more. In his own way. In his mid 60s, but incredibly active and healthy.

Mom/Peggy- She fondly remembers the times when a family could jump in a car and drive 20 hours with little money, no reservations, no plans, and just go to Disney World. You just drove through the night or stopped at some motel with a pool in the parking lot halfway, and then found one of those coupon books and picked a motel in Kissimmee or out on I-4. The planning every detail stuff isn't for her, but being in Indiana, we aren't exactly in the position to wing it a whole lot. But, as much as she misses the "old Disney trips," once we started staying on property, we never looked back. She is also mid 60s.

Mom and Dad are both at the stage in their lives where they are perfectly happy, or actually even prefer, just hanging out at the pool, going to some of the resort restaurants, going to Downtown Disney (DTD forever, baby!) Our last trip we stayed at Saratoga Springs, and I think they were over the moon about its location. People may ask "Why go all the way to Disney if that's all you want to do?" But, once you get to your departing airport, you don't have to worry about transportation ever again. Transportation is taken care of. Luggage handling is taken care of. Obviously, there is the Florida sunshine. You are in this perfect Disney bubble, even if you aren't at the parks. Things may be a bit different this trip though.

Sister/Jessie- almost 4 years younger than me, she is still one of my closest friends on the planet. She grew up Disney just like me, but within the last 10 years, went on a bit of a Disney dry spell. She has a pretty good excuse: she was busy finishing school, getting married, and having a baby. I don't want to say it was a total dry spell. She actually did 2 Disney cruises in that time frame, including her Honeymoon aboard the Disney Wonder. Also, we did a land and sea in 2013, which not only introduced her husband to us as a Disney family, but also re-ignited her enjoyment of WDW. It was the first time she had been there since 2004 (I think), and a lot has changed, obviously. She has really gotten into the planning of this trip.

BIL/Steve- Jessie's husband. He did not grow up in a Disney family, but a great family nonetheless. They traveled as well, but they were into more adventurous outdoorsy things, as well as visiting family they had scattered all over the country, as well as overseas. He had done Disney as a young child, but when we went in 2013, he really quite enjoyed it. He'll probably never be the passionate Disney person that we are, but when he's there, he's definitely into it.

Nephew/Noah- Noah came into our live June 2015...well actually, October 2014 if you want to be technical. He is adorable, a joy, perfect, sweet, smart, the whole package. But, Auntie M may be a bit biased. Like many babies, he has known Disney/Pixar via clothes, art, decor, books, and videos since the day he was born. He knows Mickey Mouse, so I can't wait till he meets him. Just last weekend, while visiting our family, he spotted a Mickey Mouse bank, and he hugged it and cuddled it and just loved it as if it were as soft and plush as a stuffed animal. He is currently 14 months, so a lot of the visit will be more for us than for him. But, I went as a baby and Jessie went as a baby, so...I guess we gotta follow the tradition!
 
So, about that phone call...

My cousin had gotten engaged in December of 2015. His post-grad work/job is out of state, where he met his fiancee, so we knew that it was nearly definite that we'd have to travel to his wedding. So earlier this year, after we had decided on our plans for the vacation, but before we had actually started making those plans, he gave us a phone call. They had set a wedding date: October 29,2016.

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Well, obviously that threw a wrench into our plans.

A lot of people ask or think..."Eh, it's just a cousin. Skip the wedding." And, even if it didn't interfere in vacation plans, a lot of people may not travel long distance for a wedding for a cousin. I understand entirely, trust me. But, our family is relatively small, so my family and his family are really quite close. (There will be examples of this later in the PTR) They actually own DVC and go to Disney even more than us, so they are really the opposite side of our same coin. Prior to this, there was really no doubt we'd go to the wedding, even if it meant traveling. He traveled the same distance to come to my sister's wedding. As much as we spent a couple of weeks trying to justify..."Do we reeeeaaaalllly need to go to the wedding? Couldn't we just send them a reeeeeaaaalllly nice gift?" ultimately, we knew we were going to the wedding. There is nothing more important than family, and this will become evident later in the PTR.

So, it was back to the drawing board on vacation dates. As I mentioned, Dad's vacation dates were set in stone the previous November. We didn't want to do summer, and it's good we didn't. More on that later. We also couldn't really do spring/early summer, as Jessie, Steve, and Noah were going to St. John's in May with his family and couldn't really take another vacation that close. So, the only weeks Dad had left was the week of Labor Day, the week we had already decided on, and the week of Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving week was out for sure, because we just didn't want to deal with those crowds, so that brought it down to September and October/November.

As for me, I was leaning toward September. Lesser crowds, lesser costs, less time at work missed. I'm very practical, if you can't tell. It just seemed like a no-brainer to me. But, my sister had her heart set on celebrating Halloween on the boat and being in WDW during Food and Wine, and I have to admit, when I was being more idealistic than pragmatic, I thought it would be kind of nice to do that too. So, in the end, we decided to stay with October. Easy right? Not so fast my friend.

With the wedding, that meant the earliest we'd be able to get to Disney was Sunday. At the time we didn't know flight schedules yet, so we were assuming we wouldn't be able to do a park on Sunday. Unless we could catch a 5:30 am flight, that was about the only way we could get a park in on Sunday. As it turned out, once the flights came out, there were no early early flights. So, it wouldn't make a ton of sense to go to WDW for just the one day. Maybe some pool time or DTD time, but it would have made more sense to just stay at MCO, so we were a little closer to the port for transportation to Canaveral. So, our Disney time had been cut dramatically. We'd have a short day Friday, full day Saturday, and a short day Sunday. Maybe a full day Sunday, if we extended our trip to Monday but it still felt very rushed.

So, after lots of back and forth and contemplation, we decided to extend our trip to Monday. But, we also decided to move our cruise from the 4 night on 10/31 to the 3 night on 11/4. The concession was that we were looking forward to Halloween on the cruise ship and seeing the Dream all decked out in all her spooky glory. But, we also got 4 full Disney days, weekdays and not weekend days at that. Plus two partial days, the day we arrive 10/30, and the day we leave for the cruise. Yes, we had to give up a sea day, but in return we get a pretty decent amount of WDW time pre-cruise.

So here is the official itinerary: Arrive in Orlando, 10/30. At Disney 10/30-11/3. On Disney Dream 11/4-11/7. Leave for home (boo hiss): 11/7.

In the end, it was a minor inconvenience, and sure makes for a pretty busy 10 days. But, now instead of having 2 round trip flights (to Disney and to the wedding), we'll just have a 3-legged flight, which does save us a little bit. Technically, before we knew the wedding date, we had considered driving to the wedding, but considering the location is nearly a full day's drive from Disney, that wasn't an option. We had also considered renting a car from the airport, driving to the wedding, then flying the other 2 legs. But, since we are in the middle of nowhere, just to drive to get the rental car would add an extra 4 hours to our drive time. Anyway, as I was saying, it kind of works out. We have 3 flights instead of 4. And, instead of two trips in a short amount of time, if they had decided to have the wedding 10/22 for example, it will be just one long trip.

More about this crazy trip to come.
 
We already had a placeholder cruise on file, so the first thing we did was re-schedule the cruise. It was like the fifth time we re-scheduled said cruise, I think, God bless our TA's soul. The big part was getting a place to stay at WDW.

At this point, it was late March, into early April. Our intention was to buy DVC points and stay at a DVC resort. So, we were well within 11 months, and just barely under 7 months. So, we knew we had to get lucky. I scouted the forums here, and put some feelers out on some other websites. Jessie and Steve have Starwood points, so they were planning to stay at the Swan and Dolphin: the Swan to be specific. Side note: I am super jealous of my sister. The Swalphin has been at the very top of my Disney resort bucket list since I was old enough to see out the car window. My family thinks it's funny, especially with the Grand and the Poly and the Contemporary being options, all of which are still on the list, all of which I'd love to stay at someday. But, for me, when I think back to those early Disney memories, before we saw all those resorts, before we saw the Ball, before we saw the Castle...we'd drive by and get that glimpse of the Swan and Dolphin peeking out over the trees in the distance. And, that's how I always knew I was Home. What's funny and sad, is that we have had so many opportunities to stay there, and just haven't. With DME and all the extras of being officially onsite, we haven't been able to pull the trigger. Someday...

Anyway, we have always enjoyed and preferred the Epcot resort area, so on virtually any Disney trip we do, we shoot for that area. With Jess, Steve, and the baby being there, my Mom was dead set on staying nearby. But again, we were under 7 months, looking for a studio, obviously it's Food and Wine Festival time, Half marathon that week...to be frank, we knew the chances were slim to none of finding something in our preferred area. We kept the possibility of a discounted POFQ, a resort we quite like, in our back pocket. We also kept the Swan and Dolphin in our back pocket, if they were to come out with some really great rates, enough to ignore all the extra fees, transportation, etc, that we'd incur. After a few days or a week or so of browsing, I was able to get someone who was willing to sell points for a stay at the Beach Club. Score! Unfortunately, there were only 2 days available: Tuesday and Wednesday evening. Now for me and Dad, we were fine looking to stay elsewhere, but for Mom, two days near her grandchild was better than no days, so she was willing to jump on the BC offer. The next thing was figuring out where else to stay.

Our options:

Old Key West- we've stayed here and we quite liked it. Very spacious room, two beds (hurray for me), serene. If it was all of us together, and we were on a leisurely WDW trip, this would definitely have been in the running. But, since we were trying to fit a lot of fun into 4 full days, and there was extra travel time to the Epcot resort area to consider, this ranked lower on the list.

Saratoga Springs- Remember when I told you how much my family loved this resort? Well, when we asked Dad where he thought we should stay, his immediate response was, "Well, how about Saratoga?" :) He really, reeeeeealllly loved it. To me, it has more of a Moderate feel than Deluxe, BUT for people like my folks who are spending less time at the parks and more time lazing the day away at the pool or browsing the shops at DTD, the location can't be beat. The proximity to the DTD bus stop, for access to a bus to the Swan and Dolphin made this one a definite contender.

The aforementioned POFQ and S/D- it would have been risky to go this route. It would have meant waiting out the market to see if any discounts would pop up. It would be hard to pass up a sure thing, in favor of possible good pricing down the line. If we got unlucky, we'd either not have any room options or be paying out the nose for a room. As it turns out and as you all know, it seems we would have been fine. But, in early 2016, remember, attendance was like we'd never seen before, rooms were at capacity.

This brings us to our final option, AKV- I've been trying to get my family to stay here for....well, how long has AKL been open? I fully acknowledge that it is a bit out in Timbuktu. But the pool seems fantastic, a real selling point for Dad. But, my Mom has been dead set against it. No smelly animals, she protests. But...BUT...this time, she was willing to concede. And, it was actually her idea. I think she was thinking if she could satiate my AKV desire for 2 days, it would be better than giving in down the road and spending a whole week there. So, since it was just two days, she gave in. The price point was decent too, and as I said before, great pool. So, we were in. If there was any CL availability, I was going to splurge, as I've read excellent things about AKV CL. As it turns out, no availability, but hey, it was a thought.

So, we finally decided on a course of action. Was a double split stay the most convenient thing in the world? Nope. But, we all had a say in it, and it gave us all something to enjoy. AKV for me; stellar pool for Dad; near the baby for Mom.

10/30 and 10/31- we would stay at AKV. Then, we'd transfer over to the Beach Club, 11/1 and 11/2. Then, for Thursday night, we decided we would stay at the Swan and Dolphin, no matter the price point, as it would be a little less of a move. Also, then we could, all 6 of us, leave from the same hotel on the same bus to the Port Friday morning.

Now, all we had to do was pull the trigger.
 


Hi!

We had lots to figure out but you had WAY more! But it doesn't sound like that's the end of the story. ;)

We're going to be staying at the Swan and AKV ourselves! (No cruise) My parents are also in their 60s and would prefer to just take it a bit easy. It's hard for me to do that. I'm just hoping I can find the right balance!

Can't wait to hear more!
 
In the meantime, we've been doing a bathroom remodel. It's a 115 year old house, and it probably hadn't been updated in 50 years, so it wasn't a simple paint job. It's still not done, if that says anything. But, it's very close, and it's gorgeous. I'll post pictures when it's done. I was the JoJo Gaines of the reno, looking at the decor and the fine details. Our plumber said I have a taste for good quality. :cool2: That's how I roll.

Anyway, if anyone knows about doing a full gut job renovation, crises come up here and there for days at a time. And you spend every waking moment trying to address them, on the computer looking for solutions, videos, materials, and so on and so forth. Anyway, about the time we came to a conclusion on the Disney trip front, the shower tile was ready to go, and ran into the standard hiccups there. So, time got away from us for a bit.

When I say time got away from us, it was really only about 2-3 days. But, in DVC studio availability time, 2-3 days might as well be 1000 days. I think Mom and I came up with the decision late on a Sunday night. We needed to run it by Dad. I think we were able to talk to him about it maybe the next day or the day after. So, one day midweek, I can't remember exactly which day, I had a particularly busy day at work. Worked straight through lunch. I remember thinking I really needed to contact the people about the DVC availability/points as soon as I could, but like I said, I was busy.

I got home that evening, started working on some reno stuff, and didn't really get a chance to sit down at my computer till about 7:30, 8 at night. Normally, I check my email relatively periodically throughout the day, but this day was not one of those days. If you recall, I had put some feelers out there on these here interwebs. I had posted, paraphrasing, this is when we are going, this is where we'd like to stay, if anyone finds some availability, keep us in mind, and so forth. Anyway, as I was checking my email, a message stuck out at me. It had been sent that morning, and it was someone about DVC.

No, no rooms had popped open. Things were still booked solid. But, this particular gentleman had an existing reservation at the Boardwalk, and he was not going to be able to keep it. He wanted to offer to sell it to us, before he opened it up to other people or cancelled. His reservation was for 10/30 through 11/2, so Sunday through Thursday. I jumped up and ran around like a chicken with my head cut off. The message had been sent that morning, almost 10 hours earlier. I hoped it wasn't too late. I told mom the situation, and told her we had to make a decision. Like...now. There was no thinking it over, no checking with Dad. I didn't want to risk losing an amazing opportunity. She was as thrilled as I was (grandbaby, remember?). And, she said..."let's do it."

So, I nearly fell all over myself trying to get back to my computer. Luckily, I was able to catch the person in time, claim his offer, and we were set! 4 nights at the Boardwalk! He charged us more than we anticipating paying for the Boardwalk Villas, BUT for an Epcot resort with NO availability, his price was more than fair, and a definite savings over paying rack rate. We've stayed at BWV before, but we're excited to check out the new refurbishments. We love it's proximity to the YCBC, S/D, Studios, Epcot...great walkability. Obviously Stormalong Bay is preferrable. And I'm not a huge fan of the clown slide. The roller coaster design is fine, but the clown....eh, not so much. Maybe we'll spend pool time over at the Swan and Dolphin. Or maybe there will be a last minute mechanical failure that will shut down the BW pool, and we'll get access to Stormalong Bay. Hey, a girl can wish, right?

Since we were down from a double split stay to a one day only split stay, Mom decided to go for AKV for the last night. She was down to only having to stay there one night, so she was perfectly happy with that. So, with all that said, here are the updated itineraries:

Mom, Dad, Me- arrive 10/30 appx 11 am, go to BWV to check in (hopefully get in early) then 10/30-11/2 at BWV; 11/2-11/3 at AKV; leave for cruise on 11/3
Steve, Jessie, and Noah- arrive also 10/30 appx 11 am, go to S/D to check in, stay at Swan 10/30-11/3; leave for cruise on 11/3

This may or may not be our firm plans. ;) You'll just have to wait and see to find out.
 
Fast forward to the end of June/early July.

Nothing major had happened in the meantime. Just getting flights taken care of. And as I mentioned before, my parents weren't usually park-goers all that much anymore. But, with the baby in the picture, this time around, they would be. So, there was the task of getting them to decide which tickets to get. Dad wanted to go to Animal Kingdom; mom didn't. But, otherwise, they would be doing Magic Kingdom and Epcot. And dad will be going to Animal Kingdom.

Unbeknownst to us, the guy we bought our points from had put us on a waiting list, and hurrah, it came through. We were able to get Thursday night at BWV. I was disappointed to be giving up AKV, but happy to not have to worry about a split stay, and knew my mom especially would be thrilled to be there. The whole lodging situation was such a blessing, because the room that we were wanting is so hard to get, and at that time of the year, darn near impossible. We got really, really lucky.

Also, as I wrote before, my sister and her family had gone to St. John in May, so there was a definite lull in the Disney planning while they prepared for and recovered from that vacation. It picked back up again toward the end of June.

My sister had gone Rock n Roller Coaster style (0-60) on her Disney planning, and she was full throttle. She had checked out about 5 books from the library. And, her Pinterest was every possible Walt Disney World planning list you could imagine. What is so amusing about this is not 2 weeks before, we had had a cookout to celebrate my nephew's birthday, and some friends of ours are actually going to Disney the week prior to us going. So, we're talking Disney, and it comes up that I am the planner of my family. And, not in an obsessive, control-freaky way. But, I just enjoy the planning process. To me, it's part of the fun. And my sister made this statement of, "I just want to show up and do whatever. I don't need to plan." So, Mom and I were visiting her one day, and she has all these books and is talking about this meal and that meal and where she wants to watch the fireworks from. Later that evening, I looked at Mom, and I was like, "YOU heard her talk about how she doesn't want to plan; she just wants to show up, right?" Mom also thought it was bizarre. It was a complete turn around, in a very short amount of time.

Anyway, that day, we left it at: let's make a list of places we'd like to eat or that we would eat. Casual or fancy. Obviously, we wouldn't go to all these places. But, if we could sync up the lists, to see if there is 2 or 3 that we'd all like to do, that would help give us a direction for meals. Jessie and Steve have a very adventurous palate. My Mom and Dad have a very simple Midwestern palate. And, I'm somewhere in the middle, though I usually err on the side of simple. So, that was the next project, getting an idea of meals.

Dad had just one request: Cookes of Dublin. My dad rarely makes formal requests for our trips, at least prior to leaving. Usually one restaurant, if any. Now, once he gets down there sure, he'll say, "Oh, hey let's go do this or that" But, ahead of time, he doesn't ask a lot. This time, Cookes was it. We planned to have some DTD time, so that should be fine. Jessie wanted to do a character breakfast for sure. She was torn between 1900 Park Fare, where there would be some face characters for the little one, maybe a little easier than the ones in suits and Crystal Palace. They were both on the radar. As for me and Mom, we were gunning for Whispering Canyon. The food on the skillet is really up our alley, more so than most other places. I was interested in Via Napoli, but not sure if I'd be in a pizza mood when I got there, plus with Food and Wine kiosks, didn't know if I'd have an appetite for it. Everything else was everything else. But, it was good to have an idea so that when we got down there, we weren't like, "So, where do you wanna go?" and checking menus at 6:30 at night and dawdling for an hour.

Plans at this point:

Noah will be doing the First Haircut Package at Harmony Barber Shop. He has a baby mullet, and someone actually told him in the grocery store, "Nice mullet." I think Jessie could have died.

Nailing down restaurants to go to.

Jessie and Steve were planning to do MNSSHP, but hadn't bought tickets yet.

Figuring out some ways to get to mass, not once but twice during our trip. Not only did we need to do Sunday mass, but that Tuesday is a Holy Day of Obligation, so checking out the Uber situation or some other way to get there.

Checking out ADRs...ADRs?! Holy crap, ADRs! :eek:
 


Hi!

We had lots to figure out but you had WAY more! But it doesn't sound like that's the end of the story. ;)

We're going to be staying at the Swan and AKV ourselves! (No cruise) My parents are also in their 60s and would prefer to just take it a bit easy. It's hard for me to do that. I'm just hoping I can find the right balance!

Can't wait to hear more!

Thank you for your interest! Stay tuned!
 
The last update started with a fast forward. This one is going to start with a flash back.

So, let's jump in the time machine, and go alllllllllll the way back to....well, just a few months ago. Sorry, I had to go for dramatic effect.

Mom, Dad, and I were in Disney in January of this year for a last minute trip. We had some Southwest vouchers that had to be used, and I had some time off, so Disney it was. As I mentioned before, we were staying at SSR, which the proximity to DTD buses made access to other resorts fantastic. One evening, we decided to head on over to the Yacht and Beach Clubs to one of our ol' reliables for dessert: Beaches and Cream.

Imagine our shock and dismay when the hostess told us, ADR only. I mean, I wasn't surprised that B&C had gone to ADRs; it was bound to happen eventually. But, ADR only was a little bit of a surprise. But...no big deal. We told the gal we could eat at the counter. no problem. We didn't really mind to wait. The lady looked me square in the eye and was like, "You're looking at a 3 hour wait." :scared1: I was convinced she was joking with us. How could there possibly be a 3 hour wait on the counter? I kept waiting for her to start laughing or break character or something, but...it became clear she was serious. We decided to do the To-Go window and eat outside. (No Banana Bread Sundae, boo.) When we left half an hour later, I heard her telling someone else the wait for the counter was 45 minutes. So, the wait times must come and go in waves. I would imagine it would be hard to predict wait times for the counter. I know anytime we've eaten at the counter, it's usually a pretty quick meal. But, who knows...

In any case, we made a mental note that we would need to get an ADR when the window opened. Actually, when we got home, the first couple of weeks, I played around with ADRs to B&C for random dates, since we were still too far out. And then, well, life happens. I don't have any excuses, but I'll do my best to try: as I said before, we were in the middle of a major bathroom reno. And, we spent about 2-3 weeks non-stop planning for my nephew's birthday party.

And, oh yeah, let me tell you. A little over two weeks prior to my nephew's birthday party, our fridge went kaput. We have a mini-fridge/freezer thing that got us by with storing milk and eggs and the important stuff. But, for a while, we were getting ice every day, eating out a lot or not eating at all. It took a week to get a part in, which ended up not fixing the fridge, and then another week to get another part in, which fixed it sort of. But, it still didn't work entirely right. Long story short, we were without a fully functioning fridge for nearly 3 weeks. While planning and preparing for a birthday party.

Ultimately, my point to all this is...life happens. And, you get to focusing on other things and things slip your mind. And ADRs slipped my mind. Actually, they slipped my mind for a long while. It wasn't one of those things where ADR window was 5/2, and on 5/6, I thought, "Oh oops..." Nope, we are talking several weeks later.

Skip back to the part of the story where we last left off. As I said, we were brainstorming meal options, but even then, the ADR thing never occurred to me. It just completely left my brain. Until one day when I was making up my list of restaurants and remembered, "Oh, yeah, Beaches and Cream." And, as soon as I thought it...it all started coming back to me. The memory came flooding back. This was early July, so I panic and mentally do the math to see when 180 days would have been. I realize I was way overdue. My next action out of panic is to go to the Disney site, and see if I can find any ADRs for Beaches and Cream. For a party of 6? Haha, uh, no. After checking multiple times a day, every day for a week or so, I resigned myself that we'll just have to hope to get lucky.

Thursday, July 14th, started like any other day. After I got home from work, Jessie notified me that she had snagged an 8 am Crystal Palace reservation, which was what she was really hoping for. For a party of 6, we knew we'd have to check and check often, maybe see once it got closer if any openings popped open. But, in any case, she checked, and she got one. She was really excited and happy and I was really excited and happy. It was a great day.

Later that evening, Dad went up to the gym to play basketball. Mom and I spent some time discussing Disney plans. Flights, travel to and from mass, and so on. It was a very normal evening.

Then, there was a knock at the door, and it changed everything.
 
So, before continuing on with the PTR, I will introduce you to our little family.

Here are the folks that started it all, our Mickey and Minnie. My parents, Jim and Peggy.

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Here I am.

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Then, here are Steve and Jessie

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Here they are with the little one.

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And, here's the star of our show, Noah, who will be enjoying his first trip to the most magical place on Earth.

At 1 year

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At 5 months

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At 3 months

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What a perfect little angel, am I right?
 
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So, to continue, there was a knock at the door.

It seems silly to say, but I was a little nervous to answer the door. I am too short to see out the window at the top, and we don't have any sidelights. And, it was dark. And, it was 10 o' clock at night and Mom and I were there alone. I was a little afraid. As it turns out, it ended up being a friend of ours. One that plays ball with my Dad. And, the only words he said to me:

"I need to speak to your mother."

Time seemed to slow down, stop really. It's a knock on the door no one ever wants to get. Mom was in her pajamas, and she rushed to change into clothes, and our friend drove her to the hospital. All we knew was that Dad had a pulse, they thought, that they thought he may have had a seizure or stroke, and an ambulance had taken him to the ER.

Eventually, I made my way to the hospital as well. As scary as it was, if it was a seizure or a stroke, I felt he was in good shape. They were able to get to him right away. Turns out it was much more serious and much worse. At the hospital, we were greeted by the folks he played basketball with, and the local priest and pastoral associate. :guilty:
I called my sister, let her know the situation, told her we didn't know anything, and to stay put until we got more info. Well, I don't know if any of you have a stubborn baby sister, but that wasn't gonna happen.

My dad's close friend, the one that did CPR on him recalled the events to us. He said he had a pulse, but lost it, but he thought the EMTs got it back. He was very shaken up. In tears. It was hard to know the person with the most immediate knowledge of the situation was so upset. Shortly thereafter, they let my Mom and I, and the Father back in Dad's room. I didn't know what to expect, but obviously you can guess my worst fear.

What I walked into I least expected. There were 5-10 people, maybe more, in his room, all hustling around. Talking to him, talking to us. Draining tubes, hooking up lines. The biggest message: they weren't giving up. But, somewhere in the middle of all that, the verdict was shared with us: not a stroke or a seizure. It was a heart attack. Well, so they said. I'll get to that later. That changed everything. It went from bad to really, really bad. They were attempting to stabilize him in order to transfer him to a hospital with a better cardiac unit about 35 minutes away. At some point, we left the room to cope. I contacted my sister, and it's good I did, because she didn't listen to me, of course, and was already on her way. I re-directed her to the other hospital.

Dad's CPR friend drove my Mom and me to the cardiac hospital, at this point it was close to midnight. A stent was placed in one of his arteries, and we were given an update. It was not a heart attack. He had suffered cardiac arrest. :sad1: -> :sad: There had been a 99% blockage. In fact, they had lost his pulse 2-4 times on the way to the hospital. Luckily, there were no other blockages that they found, and the stent procedure went as standard as possible. The cardiologist told us that the biggest issue was brain damage. Typically, for those that come through a cardiac arrest, brain damage is not uncommon. They were going to do a treatment to try to preserve brain function, but we were made aware he had an uphill battle.
 
That first night was...rough. No one wanted to sleep, but we all needed to sleep. Steve took Noah home to get some sleep, but Jessie, Mom, and I stayed at the hospital. The treatment they were going to do was supposed to take 2-3 days in total, so we were in for a long wait. I think we all got around an hour's sleep, if that. We were also trying to keep his friends, work, and our close friends and family updated throughout the night, so sleep was hard to come by.

Over the next couple of days, we (he) had tons of visitors in the ICU, and it was helpful to maintain some sense of sanity. I was able to take Mom home to get a nap, a shower, and a cry, all of which she needed. About 2 or 3 days into it, Mom, Jessie, and I were talking Disney. It created a normalcy in our conversation. On one hand, Disney World feels like and should be small potatoes in a time like this. It should be the furthest thing from our minds. But, it was good to have our minds on it. It was good to have a goal and a plan and when we said things like, "Me and Mom and Dad's flight tickets went down, I am going to get a credit." or "Hey, such and such has an ADR for 6, at this time, you want to get it?", those moments were the moments that got me through the really hard times.

My sister is a nurse; in fact, her first job was on the cardiac unit at a different hospital, so she was very familiar with Dad's situation. Uncomfortably so. We were all on different parts of the spectrum. I think we all think we had it the worst. Jessie will say it was her, because she knew the terminology, she knew the odds, she knew the mortality rate. Every time a doctor would come talk to us, she would be tore up for a while. The things that were comforting Mom were scaring her, because she understood them more. At one point, the Dr turned to Jessie and said, "You know the success rate." and it was in a very somber tone. Mom was on the opposite end of the spectrum. She didn't care what the doctors said. She had a blind faith that everything would be okay. Faith in the doctors, in my Dad, in a higher power, in the sequence of events. She didn't think he would make it that far if he wasn't going to make it. I was right there in the middle. I felt so much hope in my heart. But, I also knew enough medical jargon, and have enough of a command of the use of Google, that I was able to understand the severity of the situation.

In any case, my sister prepared us that if the brain damage was minimal, it meant probably re-learning things like writing, walking, eating. Possible memory loss. If brain damage was worse...well we didn't want to cross that bridge till we came to it.

Over the next couple of days, Dad made progress, but had concerning setbacks. But, then...he started hitting one milestone at a time. Breathing on his own, then squeezing people's hands, then opening his eyes, then he woke up. The day after he woke up, he was coherent and eating. The next step was a few days in inpatient rehab, which turned out to be less than a day. On Friday, July 22nd, 8 days after he suffered a catastrophic medical event, 4 days removed from machines keeping him alive...my Dad was released from the hospital and allowed to go home.

No organ damage. No brain damage. Heart is healthy. No spinal damage from hitting the floor when he went down. Heck, the CPR hadn't even broken any bones. He truly, in every sense of the word, is a miracle. We were given reasons to hope in the beginning. But, toward the end of his stay, when he seemed out of the woods, we (Jessie already knew) got more of a sense of how dire things were. The nurse was shocked when he squeezed her hand. We were told the cardiac arrest that he had has a 50% survival rate for people IN the hospital. It is much less for those outside the hospital, around 10%. One of the nurses was being filled in on Dad's situation, and she actually said, "A success? Don't see that very often." His situation was much worse than even we (other than Jess) realized. We are very, very lucky.

Throwback to the third post of this PTR. When my cousins found out about all this, they were immediately on their way. Despite my mom begging them not to come, telling them to wait it out, they wanted to come. So, one cousin hopped on a plane from the East Coast. And, another, the one whose wedding it is, drove 8 hours to be at the hospital for multiple days. So, this is just to show that we aren't distant cousins or anything like that. We are all quite close. Graduations, weddings, we've been through them all together. And, they were there for us in the absolute worst of times. So, even if it was an option (It wasn't.), "Go ahead and skip the wedding. It's just a cousin." was not in the picture.

I'll end this portion of the trip report with a before-and-after photo that shows how blessed we are.

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So, thank God, Dad was going to be okay. But, we were going to have to re-evaluate our vacation plans going forward.

We had lots of questions, and not a lot of answers, until he could be cleared and advised by doctors: would he even be allowed to go at all? Was he allowed to fly on a plane, or were we going to have to drive? (This would result in a 8 hour drive to the wedding, and a 20 hour drive from the wedding to Disney, which would significantly change our plans) Was being out on the open seas on the cruise going to be okay? Would the parks be too much for him? Would we need to get an ECV for him? Lots to think of, lots to consider, but we decided to keep our eyes forward, and keep planning as if nothing had changed. If a major shift would have to occur, we'd cross that bridge later.

Even though we didn't know what the results to all of those concerns would be, one thing we knew for sure was that a lot of the major rides would be off limits, due to Disney's recommendations and our own peace of mind. The one biggie that he wanted to do was Splash Mountain, which does have those warnings. But, to my Mom's chagrin, my sister the nurse, said he would probably be alright with that ride. He's been on it before, so he knows what to expect, and there isn't a lot of quick turns or scary moments. So, that may be his one pass. Everything else- Test Track, Space Mountain, Everest, etc - we are putting our foot down on.

Prior to this, even though we were outside the FP window, we had come up with our game plan for getting Fastpasses. With 5 adults and 1 infant, we had come up with a system of FPs and child swaps so intricate and complex that even the most seasoned Disney veteran would weep in awe. With Dad, the child swap really wasn't all that necessary, other than the bonus of doubling up on Fastpasses. Also, we really needed to save his FP for things he would actually be able to ride on, which means the rest of us would probably need to do the same as him. If he has a FP for Dumbo, but the rest of us have to wait in standby, there would really be no point. So, our FP game plan had to change a little.

Also, if you recall, my Dad's ONE request was Cooke's of Dublin. Fried fish and chips. Fried. Deep fried. My Dad's cardiologist and nutritionist made it pretty clear that his diet was going to change. At this point, we didn't know how much. But, fried fish and chips probably weren't going to be on the menu, unfortunately for him. So, we'd also need to focus on healthy options and meals. While we didn't have concrete plans for most of our meals yet, and we probably won't until we get there, it is still something to think about during the planning process- checking menus for appropriate items, knowing which eateries were okay and off-limits. It would add a wrinkle to our plans, but I will take that wrinkle any day over the alternative.

In the meantime, our planning had shifted to the cruise portion of our vacation. This was later in July, and our date for booking experiences was August 6th. So, we discussed some cruise possibilities. It is a 3-nighter, which I think we'll be okay with. We've done 7. We've done 4. 3 nights wouldn't be our preference, I don't think. But, we are experienced enough to know what we can do and can't do. While sitting in the lobby of the hospital, I logged on to our cruise's FB page, and was thrilled to see that the cruise was going to offer Palo brunch and a Pirate Night buffet. These aren't extremely common on 3-night cruises, and we weren't expecting to have them, especially the brunch, so that added a little more to think about.

None of us really care for Nassau all that much. However, there is a Hilton within walking distance of the ship you can get a day-pass for. There's a pool and a beach and hammocks and a great view of the ship for pictures, and it includes your meals and drinks and all that. Mom and Dad were planning to stay on the ship in Nassau anyway, so one thought was to let them have Noah that day, and Jess, Steve, and I could maybe go to the Hilton for a few hours. But, the way our cruise is set up, we go to Castaway Cay first and Nassau second. So, if we get our fill on enjoying fun in the sun in paradise, the Hilton may not be all that necessary. And, how can you top Castaway Cay? So, we put the Hilton plans on the back burner as a maybe yes, maybe no for now.

They also have a Princess gathering and a meet and greet with Anna and Elsa (and Olaf, I believe) on the ship to sign up for as well. This is something that would affect our WDW side of things, because we wouldn't have a need to do those character interactions on land, if we could do them at sea, and that would free up more time for other things to do. I know it's typically for girls, but I couldn't wait to see all the Princesses with the handsomest prince I know, my nephew Noah. Anyway, we hammered out a lot of the little things- dining times, show times, etc. and were more than ready for when August 6th came around. All we had to do was wait.

On Friday July 22, less than a full 8 days after my Dad had a massive cardiac arrest, with 99% blockage, he walked out of the hospital. Well, he didn't walk, because I don't think they let you walk anymore. He was wheeled out of the hospital. But anyway...he was released from ICU to an inpatient rehab, where he was supposed to be for 3-5 days. But, after a half day of rehab, they decided he was too much to handle and kicked his butt out. To celebrate, that Sunday, Jessie and the baby came up to visit. After nothing but fast food, take out, and hospital food, it was nice to sit down to a meal with family. I grilled some chicken and vegetables and prepared a healthy menu. I fixed a greek yogurt rather than mayonnaise based cole slaw, and everyone hated it. Lol. Healthy food is hard.

But, most of the afternoon was spent, as it usually is, planning for Disney. This time, it was less planning and more gushing over the wonderful times we've had in the past and the wonderful times yet to come. We talked about the rides we're excited for, the experiences we're excited for Noah to have, food we're excited to try. So many people think of Disney planning as stressful, and to some, I'm sure it can be. And, even for myself, it can be not as fun at times. But, most of the time, for us at least, it is joyful. It's this feeling of hope and anticipation and memories and love all at the same time.

As Jessie was leaving, she changed Noah for his trip home. After eating and playing all afternoon, he was naturally a little yucky. What happened next would once again change the course of our trip.

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Yup. That's right. My sister's pregnant.
 
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So, before the next update, I just wanted to provide a quick rundown on the plans, as of July 24th. Subject to change, of course.

Thursday October 27th- Dad (?), Mom, Cousin (brother of the groom) and I will be driving to Nashville. My aunt and uncle, Matt's parents will be driving out to the wedding that Wednesday, but Matt is in college, so he is tagging along with us, so as to not travel alone. We will spend the night at the Holiday Inn Express- Nashville airport.

Friday October 28th- Flying out from the Nashville airport to the wedding. Steve, Jessie, and Noah will be flying on separate flight.

Saturday October 29th- Hanging out with family. WEDDING TIME. Getting our groove on.

Sunday October 30th- All 6 of us flying to Orlando. Hopping on ME from MCO to BWV. Steve, Jessie, and Noah will be arranging transportation to the S/D. Getting settled, figuring out mass at some point, some time at Disney Springs hopefully.

Monday October 31st- Morning either at Disney Springs and/or hanging around the pool. Possible MNSSHP?

Tuesday November 1st- 8 am ADR at Crystal Palace for all 6 of us. At least a partial day at MK. Possible evening at Epcot. Figure out mass yet again. Jessie, Steve, and Noah with dinner ADR at Ohana

Wednesday November 2nd- TBD

Thursday November 3rd- TBD

Friday November 4th- Leaving for Port Canaveral via DCL bus. Depending on pickup time, maybe a couple hours in a park or a breakfast. Or pool time.

Saturday November 5th- Castaway Cay

Sunday November 6th- FALL BACK. Nassau.

Monday November 7th- Arrive back in Port Canaveral. Fly back to Nashville, and drive home.

I pose a question to y'all. I am looking to buy a family shirt for the vacation. Should I buy same shirt, different colors for everybody? Or same shirt, same colors for everybody?
 
Oh my goodness - what an up and down life you've been having! I am so so glad that your dad pulled through! And now your sister is pregnant! FP changes again, right??

WDW probably seems tame after your rollercoaster!
 
To understand our reaction, you have to understand our family. Which is not an easy task. Our first reaction was mild horror, followed by "Are you kidding me?" followed by "How will this affect our vacation?" Don't get me wrong, we are all thrilled to welcome a new member into our family. It's just that the reaction isn't quite the same as when we found out little Noah was coming, which was pure unadulterated joy mixed with shrieking mixed with "How fast can we spoil this child?" But, Noah was a long time coming and my parents' first grandbaby. Different situation.

Now before you feel too sorry for my sister and her baby-to-be, which we've lovingly named Sweet Pea, don't. She was just as stunned and dreading the situation as any of us, if not more. This was to be Noah's first trip to WDW. She has really been planning everything. Well, she didn't plan for this. In fact, not even 3 weeks prior, just before Dad's incident, we were visiting with family, and the trip came up, as did "When's the next kid coming along?" She mentioned how she was not planning to get pregnant till after October, because she wanted to be able to enjoy the trip; she wanted to be able to ride the rides. So, as happy as any expectant mother is when she finds out she has a little one on the way, I think she was a little disappointed too.

Mom and I were one of the last in our immediate family to know. Jessie told Dad in the hospital when he was "out," and it is one of the very few things he remembers. He just didn't say anything to us about it, because he didn't know if he was imagining or dreaming it. Also, one day, while the cousins were visiting, Jessie had an appointment she couldn't miss. She said it was a dentist appointment. Well, they suspected it right away. As for us, we didn't think a thing of it. For one, she had specifically mentioned not wanting to be pregnant for the trip and was still planning as if everything was perfectly normal talking about rides and shows. For two, she had been at the hospital nearly 24/7 for 4 days at this point. Nothing was happening as far as progress, so if she needed to get away from the hospital for a little bit to take care of appointments, get a shower and more clothes, that made perfect sense. And, dentists ARE hard to re-schedule without having to wait a while. So, it just didn't occur to me or Mom that it was strange. But, like I said, the cousins suspected it. Of course, they didn't tell us their suspicions until after Jess announced it. I guess people who are closest to a situation are sometimes the most blind to it as well.

As the dust settled, Jessie said she would be 20 weeks at the time of the cruise, well under the 24 week threshold, and she felt perfectly comfortable to sail.

Dex, you were so right. Once again, our impeccably crafted FP system had changed, and at this point, more like starting from scratch. Jessie and Noah and Dad would both be out for the big rides. Mom wouldn't be at the parks all the time, and if she was, she doesn't do a lot of the big rides anyway. So, the only people needing FP for the tentpole rides would be me and Steve. Using FP for easier rides, shows, and character meets seemed to be the best course of action at that.

Over the next week or two, Mom, Dad, and Jessie had a slew of doctors appointments. We got more questions. We got lots of answers. So, here is a brief rundown:

Everything checked out great for Dad. They said he was perfectly fine to travel. Fine to do the cruise. And because his heart is in good shape, they didn't even give him any ride restrictions, although Mom, Jessie, and I will enforce Disney protocol. :) As far as meals, he wasn't completely prohibited from the good things. He can have fried foods every great once in a while. And red meat should be limited to once a week in small doses. Low-fat and low-sodium is ideal. So, that every great once and a while will be at Disney. He might be able to get a burger, we'll see. But, all in all, he should be able to have a good time.

For Jessie, she had a visit to her OB-GYN who had one major concern about her pregnancy: Zika. Even though there had been no cases of Zika in the Bahamas, and certainly not on DCL, they still considered that trip to be a "Caribbean" trip, and Caribbean travel was/is highly discouraged for pregnant women. We were annoyed, feeling the Bahamas were not a part of the Caribbean. Also, as the days progressed, Zika seemed to be traveling throughout Florida, and it seemed like DCL was maybe a more safe option than being at Disney. Ultimately, Jessie didn't want to take any chances and heeded her doctor's advice. It took a few days of back and forth, but they decided to cancel their cruise and stay at Disney instead. Leaving the question: what would we do?

Last, but certainly not least, my mom. I regret to share that in early August, my Mom was diagnosed with breast cancer.
 
Obviously, the trip should have been the least of our priorities. However, a lot of the time was spent waiting. Waiting for appointments. Waiting for phone calls. Waiting for test results. We would have gone crazy with nothing to keep our mind occupied. So, life went on. We worked on the bathroom. We planned for the trip. We were well aware that the trip was on thin ice. It hinged on a lot of different factors. But, even being aware of that, we still hoped for the best.

With every doctor Mom met with, one of the first things she mentioned was the trip and how it needed to factor into her plans for her treatment. It got to the point she didn't even have to bring it up anymore, it was the first thing someone would ask her about.

I don't want to keep you in the dark about Mom. The last two months have felt like years. Mom found out the cancer she had was very small and although this particular hospital doesn't assign "stages," they consider it to be caught early, and gave her a good prognosis for recovery. They told her if she were to have cancer, that was the kind to get. So the plan was to take the lump out and do a localized radiation on it for just 3 weeks, putting her in great shape to continue on with the trip. On 9/2, the lump was removed, but one of her ancillary lymph nodes had a small spot of cancer on it; good news is the others they tested came back clear. She also had an oncotype test done, which analyzes the chance of recurrence, and her results came back very low. So, that meant chemo was more than likely going to be out of the picture.

So, unfortunately, localized radiation was no longer an option. She would have to have full radiation, a 4-6 week process, which we assumed would start after her first follow up appointments, which was cutting things pretty close, but best case scenario should not affect our trip. She later found out however, that they would not even start radiation until 4 weeks after the initial surgery, but no more than 8 weeks past. If you are analyzing the timeline, you will realize this would fall smack dab in the middle of the vacation, and even worse, she might have to miss her nephew's wedding.

But, there was another change of plans, fortunately and unfortunately. Even though the surgeon initially felt that the lump was in tact, after pathology analyzed it, it appeared it may have spread to surrounding tissues. So, she would have to have a second surgery to remove more tissue for analysis. Unfortunate, obviously. However, that meant radiation would be pushed off for 4 weeks following the second surgery. This meant that the trip would be safe. Of course, we were hoping to celebrate the end of radiation and Mom being on the road to recovery, and instead, mom will be facing weeks of radiation once she gets back.

Back to Disney:

Dad, Mom, and I wrestled with whether to do the cruise or not. Without Jess and her family, it felt a little empty. But, we all very much wanted to do the cruise. Castaway Cay is a hard habit to break after all. So, we decided to stay with the cruise. In the end, it's probably a good thing, because it will give Steve, Jess, and Noah some time alone for their own little family vacation. I scheduled meet and greets for myself to do Anna and Elsa and the Princess Gathering. Mom and Dad weren't interested. It was a little bittersweet, wishing our little prince Noah could do the Princess gathering. Palo is still being decided, but other than that, no concrete plans, other than relax and enjoy and Hakuna Matata. We got transportation set up, Dad's dietary requests entered, Main seating selected, and the cruise paid in full. Calgon, or should I say Captain Mickey, take me away!

A slight change to Steve and Jessie's plans, since they will be there the whole week. In an effort to spend wisely, they decided to stay on property the first night, then transfer to the Swan and Dolphin for the rest of the trip. This would save $24 or so on Magic Bands, which they would have purchased anyway. And another $40 or so on transportation from the airport. Steve wanted to do the value resorts to get the best bang for their buck, but Jessie put her foot down, as only being there one night, she didn't want to be too far removed from everything. Jessie wanted to do a deluxe, because in her mind, only one night wouldn't break the bank and would give them a chance to stay somewhere they wouldn't normally have the opportunity to, like the Grand or the Poly. So, they decided to look for a DVC property with availability. Will they be successful? We shall see.

Up next, planning hits full throttle and an update to our itinerary.
 
First, I am so happy that your father is recovering so well and that your mother's cancer has been caught early on.

I totally understand how your anticipated trip to WDW and all the planning for it could be a nice stress reliever for you and your family. It is nice that you all enjoyed talking about the upcoming trip and past trips together. I, too, like to use my love for Disney and in particular WDW as a stress reliever. That is wny I am on the Disboards so much.
Unfortunately, I only get to go to WDW every 3-4 years so I spend the time inbetween making plans for trips I would like to go on and I read other people's trip reports.

I am glad I found your report. I know how much you must be excited now with the trip only over one week away! WOW!:jumping1::dancer:

I just want to say, you are a wonderful writer. You do a great job of sharing your thoughts, concerns and backstory.
I look forward to reading your trip report when you return. :beach:
 

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