School Calender just came out. Would you rebook your vacation?

Wow! What possible algebraic concept could that be, to take years to recover from?
It doesn't have to be that way at all.
LOL. Maybe a good parent would have asked her that question. But she wasn't the type of kid to ask for help, and she didn't tell us about the missed concept until her senior year of high school and by then it was irrelevant. For the record though, Algebra was spread over 7th and 8th grade, so the concept she missed in November of 7th grade would have been a fairly early concept. I suspect something came up in Geometry her freshman year that referred back to Algebra and she struggled with that for awhile.
 
There's no way I'd switch because of the school schedule at those ages, however if I could get my money back etc. (Call Disney about the Halloween tix, there's a decent chance they'll change them for you this early). then, I might switch just because it'll probably be less crowded, but that's the only reason I'd consider it. At those ages, especially if they're generally a good student, missing 3 days shouldn't be a big deal (coming from someone whose taken her kids out from pre-k - high school...and I'm a school counselor...it shouldn't be an issue.

I thought about the crowds. Their fall break is the next Monday and Tuesday after Columbus Day so I wasn’t sure how much a week would make a difference with the crowds. We’ve always gone in May so October is new to us. We knew that Columbus Day weekend we would have crazy crowds!!
 
We rebooked our hotel. Granted it was only a three day switch, but that way the kids only had to miss three school days instead of five. I have always been okay with my kids missing a day or two here and there for family vacations. Just as long as it was not excessive. Education is important to us, but I also know I will never have this time back with my children. So we make a few exceptions occasionally.
 
Every year our parish takes fall break the Monday and Tuesday of Columbus day. So we booked our trip around that. We are booked for October 5-9th. The Calendar just came out for next school year and fall break is not until the next Monday and Tuesday!! We are already booked, flights booked, MNSSHP booked and ADR's booked. If we leave it my kids will miss 3 days of school. My DD is going into 3rd grade. I'm not worried about her as much as my son. It will be his first year in middle school. They are both very smart and I don't think would have a problem catching up. I am torn! HELP!!
I’m usually on the side of “Don’t take your children out of school for vacations,” but in this case, you scheduled everything in good faith expecting the school system to be consistent and stick with the traditional fall break.

You’ve already done so much. I would leave it as is, explain it in writing to the teachers and/or administration if necessary and take your smart kids on a wonderful vacation.

Enjoy!
 


I wouldn’t rebook. I’ve pulled my daughter out a few times over the years. She’s still in Honor Society and still has a 4.0.

Everyone knows what’s best for their own family. If you feel your kids won’t suffer from missing a few days, then go for it.

Same with my kids. We took them out every fall when they were younger and no one had an issue with it. Mine are going to be a junior and senior this fall and we are going out of town for a family wedding a week into school so the will miss 3 days. OP, I would keep your trip as it is and not stress about it. There are much more important things in life then missing a few days of school. And I think it is shameful how some teachers and school districts punish the child because of the decisions the parents make. It is their job to educate your child even if they miss a few days. The real reason schools do not want your kids to miss school is because the government gives them money for having butts in the seats.
 
If it's possible to rebook (ie not an issue with the grownups getting time off from work or losing plane tickets, etc.), I'd rebook. I taught 4 and 6 grade in public schools and while Catholic schools tend to be smaller and more personal, particularly with a middle schooler I'd hesitate to miss more than 1-2 days particularly at the end of a term.
 
If it's possible to rebook (ie not an issue with the grownups getting time off from work or losing plane tickets, etc.), I'd rebook. I taught 4 and 6 grade in public schools and while Catholic schools tend to be smaller and more personal, particularly with a middle schooler I'd hesitate to miss more than 1-2 days particularly at the end of a term.

Oh please. Kids are out sick longer then 3 days and it doesn't ruin them forever. If a child missing a few days of school completely destroys their year, then that is more on the teacher and school, not the child. We have all missed school for whatever reason and most of us have normal productive lives. I never ran into anyone in my 4 1/2 decades on this planet that said "I wish I never missed those 3 days of school in junior high, it ruined my life". :crazy2:
 


Oh please. Kids are out sick longer then 3 days and it doesn't ruin them forever. If a child missing a few days of school completely destroys their year, then that is more on the teacher and school, not the child. We have all missed school for whatever reason and most of us have normal productive lives. I never ran into anyone in my 4 1/2 decades on this planet that said "I wish I never missed those 3 days of school in junior high, it ruined my life". :crazy2:
Yes!
 
I am sorry you have to schedule your vacations during summer, spring, Thanksgiving, and winter breaks. I can only imagine the crowds and peak-time expense. My children’s teachers have taken advantage of their PTO for events such as weddings and the births of granchildren; family time. I don’t blame them one bit.

I value education, and am grateful for terrific teachers and curriculum. Ideally, family time and school schedules would never conflict. That’s just not always possible.

I agree.

Regarding the OP question about rescheduling a vacation with more than 4 months lead time so your kid doesn't have to miss- absolutely I would.

And yes, I get it- many disagree- but I never like missing- school, sports etc. No, three days is not life changing, of course it's not- but my thinking has always been to set priorities and act accordingly. That is why I have, in the past, missed out on opportunities for vacay or whatever- because I was committed to being in school.
Family life hasn't suffered. Students and teachers get a whole lot of family time. :dogdance:
 
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I wouldn't re-book. They would only miss 3 days which in reality is nothing. Children here are often pulled for vacation for 2+ weeks at a time without major issues. Sometimes they are given work to do, sometimes it's just make sure they read for 30 minutes each day and keep a journal of their activities. For secondary school classes most teachers have class pages where assignments and lectures are posted online so student who are sick or miss with notice can keep up. There is something wrong with a school system in which a child missing a 2-3 days can hinder their progress. If we stuck to summer vacations we'd never go for more than a long weekend due to my work schedule as it's busy season May -September. I read these threads and I am so thankful we don't live in the US, but in a country where family time is also valued and goes along with education.
 
Oh please. Kids are out sick longer then 3 days and it doesn't ruin them forever. If a child missing a few days of school completely destroys their year, then that is more on the teacher and school, not the child. We have all missed school for whatever reason and most of us have normal productive lives. I never ran into anyone in my 4 1/2 decades on this planet that said "I wish I never missed those 3 days of school in junior high, it ruined my life". :crazy2:
And kids that are out sick for a week often struggle too. I mean if that's the only 3 days of school the kid misses that year that's one thing. But if they miss 3 days for the trip, then 2 with a cold, then 1 for a baseball tournament, then a week in the winter with the flu or whatever, I've seen even smart kids struggle particularly on end of term test. Not to mention OP said taking end of term test early to go on the trip. That means your child won't get the review and these test are often weighted in middle school (i.e. 25+% of the grade). Additionally, some places it's just the standardized benchmark tests that are used to determine placement (because they don't vary between teachers so it’s a more fair comparison), so if you're willing to chance it by all means. No 3 days won't ruin it for life, but they may miss a certain benchmark, reward, or spend some time struggling to get caught back up. And yeah, I've actually heard children mumble or be upset because it took them a while to catch back up (I taught math so missing almost a week in a key area can be tough on a lot of kids even if they are smart). So I mean if you're fine with that you do you. If it meant changing my hotel by a week, I'd suggest changing the hotel. And at this point that's likely all it is. As I said in my original post, if say mom and dad had to put in for time off 6 months in advance or you've already booked flights that’s different, but if you believe school is important and it's not a cancel the trip entirely but a shift it, then yes as a former teacher I would suggest shifting it to where you can minimize absences particularly once you reach either tested grade levels or middle school.
 
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OP, take your vacation!!! :) We've graduated three (yes, LA too) and they were all honor students and well respected at their schools. Only two teachers, and one Asst. Prin. in all those years thought they could dictate when our children needed to be out a few days. Our children did great - one was a Merit Scholar. We/they have no regrets!
 
I had a slightly similar situation happen. I booked Labor Day week, because the school is usually out that Friday for in service day and an early dismissal Thursday, too. Well they went and changed it for the fall to the following week! Not changing a thing. She would have only missed 2.5 days, but now she'll miss 4. I've done my stressing about it. In the end it won't matter at all.


ETA: My daughter is still in primary school.

We are taking our kids out 4 days over Labor Day too. Our last trip was almost 4 years ago and it went by in the blink of an eye! DS will be in HS and DD1 and DD2 will still be in Elementary. This is the time that works best with DH's work schedule and it is a break between DS's Summer sports practices and the start of his games. We will do what we can to help them catch up.

OP, I would do whatever you think is best for your kids and your family.
 
We are taking our kids out 4 days over Labor Day too. Our last trip was almost 4 years ago and it went by in the blink of an eye! DS will be in HS and DD1 and DD2 will still be in Elementary. This is the time that works best with DH's work schedule and it is a break between DS's Summer sports practices and the start of his games. We will do what we can to help them catch up.

OP, I would do whatever you think is best for your kids and your family.


Work schedules have a lot to do with it! No one else takes off that week either at my job or my husband's.
 
We used to take the kids out for a week and then one time, when we got back, my kids asked me to not take them over school days anymore, as coming back to what they missed was so stressful. It negated the vacation.

So, it has been summers and breaks for a few years.

Older son is going to high school next year, and his break is going to be at a different time than my younger son's. So, I am not sure what we will do - I would rather the middle schooler miss than the high schooler, but the middle schooler has some learning issues.

Rough problem to have ;)

If you can reschedule everything for the same price/reasonable increase, I would...due to school AND to lower crowds. October can be a MESS at times... hottest, most crowded trip we had was October, 2011.
 
And kids that are out sick for a week often struggle too. I mean if that's the only 3 days of school the kid misses that year that's one thing. But if they miss 3 days for the trip, then 2 with a cold, then 1 for a baseball tournament, then a week in the winter with the flu or whatever, I've seen even smart kids struggle particularly on end of term test. Not to mention OP said taking end of term test early to go on the trip. That means your child won't get the review and these test are often weighted in middle school (i.e. 25+% of the grade). Additionally, some places it's just the standardized benchmark tests that are used to determine placement (because they don't vary between teachers so it’s a more fair comparison), so if you're willing to chance it by all means. No 3 days won't ruin it for life, but they may miss a certain benchmark, reward, or spend some time struggling to get caught back up. And yeah, I've actually heard children mumble or be upset because it took them a while to catch back up (I taught math so missing almost a week in a key area can be tough on a lot of kids even if they are smart). So I mean if you're fine with that you do you. If it meant changing my hotel by a week, I'd suggest changing the hotel. And at this point that's likely all it is. As I said in my original post, if say mom and dad had to put in for time off 6 months in advance or you've already booked flights that’s different, but if you believe school is important and it's not a cancel the trip entirely but a shift it, then yes as a former teacher I would suggest shifting it to where you can minimize absences particularly once you reach either tested grade levels or middle school.

The OP's oldest child is in the first year of middle school she said. This is not their junior year of high school and she is missing the ACT or something. What "placement" is she going to miss out on? The next thing you are going to try to scare them with is that it will "go on their permanent record". LOL We hear that line a lot too. And who says that the teacher can not work with the child before and after the vacation to help them with what they missed. In my school district, they are great about people going on vacation and even get excited with the kids about it. The teachers here give them assignments ahead of time and then if the child needs it they will help them either before or after school. They also tell them to have a good time. Just like good teachers should. Any teacher that gives a child a hard time about them being gone and does not do everything they can for the child should be fired IMO. I also want to add that my brother broke his leg in grade school and was in the hospital and in traction for weeks, then at home for several weeks more. The teacher came to him at the hospital and at home. That did not stop him from graduating with honors and now he owns his own business. My husband missed at least 20 days his freshman year of HS due to an illness. He is the smartest man I now and graduated with a 4.0.
 
Wow I truly appreciate everyone’s comments. I had no idea that this was such a sore subject for some. Let me see if I can address some questions/concerns that have come up...
* yes I value my kids education very much. If I didn’t I would not have originally tried to schedule this trip when I thought my kids would have been out of school. I also would not be struggling with the decision so much.
* No it’s not just switching the hotel by a few days. We have hotel, flight, ADR’s, MNSSHP and BBB all booked already. It would basically be like starting over with our planning and booking.
* I have spoke to both of my kids and they don’t want to move the trip. They feel like they will be ok. Yes I am still concerned about them making up work, test, etc. I think that’s normal as a mom.
*we did call and we could change about everything (yes it would cost more), but my DD’s BBB reservation. This is her first time doing BBB and is very excited! She is crushed at the thought of losing the reservation.
*I have considered the crowds. Just not sure if a week would make a huge difference. We usually go in May. Any thoughts??
Again, thanks for all the helpful comments. Pretty sure at this point we are going to leave things alone. It was nice hearing people say that they have taken their kids out and they did fine. Both of my kids do very good in school. I was just trying to avoid this. Especially with it being his first year in middle school. We are going to give his teachers a heads up well in advance.
 
The OP's oldest child is in the first year of middle school she said. This is not their junior year of high school and she is missing the ACT or something. What "placement" is she going to miss out on? The next thing you are going to try to scare them with is that it will "go on their permanent record". LOL We hear that line a lot too. And who says that the teacher can not work with the child before and after the vacation to help them with what they missed. In my school district, they are great about people going on vacation and even get excited with the kids about it. The teachers here give them assignments ahead of time and then if the child needs it they will help them either before or after school. They also tell them to have a good time. Just like good teachers should. Any teacher that gives a child a hard time about them being gone and does not do everything they can for the child should be fired IMO. I also want to add that my brother broke his leg in grade school and was in the hospital and in traction for weeks, then at home for several weeks more. The teacher came to him at the hospital and at home. That did not stop him from graduating with honors and now he owns his own business. My husband missed at least 20 days his freshman year of HS due to an illness. He is the smartest man I now and graduated with a 4.0.

So the district I taught in used the end of term placement test to determine if a child could go in advanced math because they were held constant across teachers in multiple middle and elementary schools. I'm not using it as a scare tactic, I'm just saying it's different to miss a district test or an end of term test than a Kindergarten end of chapter reading test. If it's a tested grade level and particularly once there are different levels of classes it can be a big deal. The fact that it wasn't for you, doesn't mean it isn't ever.

As I originally said if the OP couldn't change for other reasons (which it sounds like they can't), it's not going to doom the child, but yes there are consequences to missing a term test and yes it can require effort to catch up. It's a very different situation to have someone involuntarily absent for a severe illness than a my family wanted to take a vacation.

And @Lilsia I'd hope if you're expecting a teacher to pull overtime (which is what you're describing by making them show up early or stay late to catch your child up) for a vacation that was your choice (not an illness, a funeral, or some other unavoidable issue) that you'll be compensating them for their extra services at your expense. Because saying it's just what "good teachers do" shows little empathy or understanding of what teachers currently are doing in a lot of school and the sacrifice to their own family time so that you can go on vacation.

OP, it sounds like you've made a well researched and thorough decision. One suggestion is to make sure your kids do some school work everyday. The kids I had that were miserable and overwhelmed were often the ones forced to do a week's worth of work on the plane home or bus back.
 
We’re taking our girls out of school this September for a week. We did it last September and also in November 2016. They were both in preschool in 2016. This year preschool and 2nd grade. Do I feel bad? Nope. Not at all. But I will stop at 5th grade and move our vacations to normal break times. But I have no problem taking them out of school.
 

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