Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

rteetz · Apr 5, 2020

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/what-construction-projects-are-still-happening-at-walt-disney-world/

Thecouch · Apr 5, 2020

I'm wondering if disney world Goes to max pass type system like disneyland with no stand bye lines for a few months to stop so many people standing inside. Or move more lines out side and when you hit inside line its is almost walk straight on.
Could also be the time for them to bring out that new planning app with paid fastpass that there was rumors of

yankeesfan123 · Apr 5, 2020

Thecouch said:
I'm wondering if disney world Goes to max pass type system like disneyland with no stand bye lines for a few months to stop so many people standing inside. Or move more lines out side and when you hit inside line its is almost walk straight on.
Could also be the time for them to bring out that new planning app with paid fastpass that there was rumors of

Definitely more virtual queues to avoid lines.

Disney needs to make up for lost profits? More alcohol (carts in the MK?). Paid fast passes. Raised prices across the board. Paid magical express. After hours events will be more crowded...

mhautz · Apr 5, 2020

Thecouch said:
I'm wondering if disney world Goes to max pass type system like disneyland with no stand bye lines for a few months to stop so many people standing inside. Or move more lines out side and when you hit inside line its is almost walk straight on.
Could also be the time for them to bring out that new planning app with paid fastpass that there was rumors of

The problem I foresee is that anything that greatly reduces the number of people actually standing in line means more people elsewhere in the park, and it's not like some common areas aren't already too crowded with people. It almost feels like a virtual queue or anything like that would just move the problem absent a very significant reduction in capacity.

TDSAXX · Apr 5, 2020

yankeesfan123 said:
Definitely more virtual queues to avoid lines.

Disney needs to make up for lost profits? More alcohol (carts in the MK?). Paid fast passes. Raised prices across the board. Paid magical express. After hours events will be more crowded...

I’m not sure that jacking up prices in the midst of a major recession is a great business move,

vinotinto · Apr 5, 2020

rteetz said:
https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/what-construction-projects-are-still-happening-at-walt-disney-world/

With Disney halting construction, I simply can’t get excited about these Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) and third-party construction. Parking lots? Sign demolition? McDonald’s? Third Swolphin Hotel? Sorry, but can’t get too enthusiastic about these.

yankeesfan123 · Apr 5, 2020

TDSAXX said:
I’m not sure that jacking up prices in the midst of a major recession is a great business move,

Didn’t say in the middle of a recession. Could be next year or 5 years from now. But they will make up for this. More college program workers, less full timers, less training, less staff at attractions... honestly, they might put on a happy face for the 50th...

But Disney will make up for these losses.

yankeesfan123 · Apr 5, 2020

vinotinto said:
With Disney halting construction, I simply can’t get excited about these Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) and third-party construction. Parking lots? Sign demolition? McDonald’s? Third Swolphin Hotel? Sorry, but can’t get too enthusiastic about these.

Ill get excited if the McRib comes back.

TDSAXX · Apr 5, 2020

yankeesfan123 said:
Didn’t say in the middle of a recession. Could be next year or 5 years from now. But they will make up for this. More college program workers, less full timers, less training, less staff at attractions... honestly, they might put on a happy face for the 50th...

But Disney will make up for these losses.

So you’re saying that at some point in the future Disney will raise prices? That’s a bold prediction.

rteetz · Apr 5, 2020

vinotinto said:
With Disney halting construction, I simply can’t get excited about these Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) and third-party construction. Parking lots? Sign demolition? McDonald’s? Third Swolphin Hotel? Sorry, but can’t get too enthusiastic about these.

All stuff that needs/needed to be done though.

Brianstl · Apr 5, 2020

yankeesfan123 said:
Didn’t say in the middle of a recession. Could be next year or 5 years from now. But they will make up for this. More college program workers, less full timers, less training, less staff at attractions... honestly, they might put on a happy face for the 50th...

But Disney will make up for these losses.

That assumes that Disney will have the same management philosophy and that would assume that Chapek, Iger and most of the current board members don’t get removed from their positions over the next 18 months. I don’t think that is a safe assumption anymore.

mshanson3121 · Apr 5, 2020

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiger-...20-04-05/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=85882384
Implications for Animal Kingdom? Do we know if they have been taking any special precautions around the animals, requiring testing of employees etc?

yankeesfan123 · Apr 5, 2020

TDSAXX said:
So you’re saying that at some point in the future Disney will raise prices? That’s a bold prediction.

No need for the snark. We’re all just trying to have a reasonable conversation about the effects of this. We all hope for the best here.

Fido Chuckwagon · Apr 5, 2020

NashvilleMama said:
This is all making me horribly depressed. I'd cancelled our resort stay for late April already, but just rebooked in a Pirate room at Caribbean Beach resort for the week of Thanksgiving (crowd level 10! woohoo! ugh.) just so I'd have something to look forward to....but know it's very, very unlikely things will have returned to normal by then. I can't fathom Disney reopening this year based on everything the experts are saying about the need to keep this contained even after things are relatively under control for awhile. sigh.

If Disney is reopened for Thanksgiving, and I think that’s a big if (2021 seems more likely to me), it certainly isn’t going to be a crowd level 10. We’re not going to see a crowd level 10 again for years.

Fido Chuckwagon · Apr 5, 2020

mmackeymouse said:
I get what you are saying, but I don't know that I would say we aren't in any better of a position than them.

Hong Kong and Shanghai are much more concentrated population centers than Anaheim and Orlando. While no, our citizens aren't so great at following the proper protocol, there is a natural space and size that a city of 25 million just doesn't have. Also, with each day that passes, epidemiologists learn more and more information and while, no it doesn't seem they have the answers, as always with time, they are closer every day.

I know that looking at the numbers and the models yes, we can look at the timeline and see where we are, where we should be, where we will be. And according to that, I agree with you. We aren't any further along.

But, I would say that hopefully we are in a better position.

Counterpoint: SHD and HKD don’t have a business model of drawing people from all over the world. WDW does.

rteetz · Apr 5, 2020

Fido Chuckwagon said:
Counterpoint: SHD and HKD don’t have a business model of drawing people from all over the world. WDW does.

Even with that though Disney has said that the Asian markets aren't huge for them in the US. Their big markets for domestic parks are central and southern America.

Disney Bobby · Apr 5, 2020

yankeesfan123 said:
Didn’t say in the middle of a recession. Could be next year or 5 years from now. But they will make up for this. More college program workers, less full timers, less training, less staff at attractions... honestly, they might put on a happy face for the 50th...

But Disney will make up for these losses.

No way. They will just reassess and move on. That money is gone. Years to recover, even if the economy snaps back quickly, which it won't. The impacts of this are going to be tough here. Even worse abroad. It's going to be a while before people get past this, financially and psychologically. Disney is a luxury, and those types of things are some of the first things to go when times get tough.

xuxa777 · Apr 6, 2020

Well that main IHME model updated and as I expected dramatically reduced the amounts of deaths/cases. Florida peak is now 4/21 but I am not sure how valid the model is at this point. Even the with update the data still doesn’t match current daily data. That being said this week will tell us a lot, especially re: NY and other hot spots.

I still feel good about a soft, staggered opening starting in July, Springs and resorts and then parks in Aug. If things keep trending better this week might even be sooner. If things keep going like it is going to be real hard to keep the stay at home in place for much longer than April. States will start opening up to get economy going and I could see FL move quicker.

The good news it appears the stay at home is working

jlwhitney · Apr 6, 2020

xuxa777 said:
Well that main IHME model updated and as I expected dramatically reduced the amounts of deaths/cases. Florida peak is now 4/21 but I am not sure how valid the model is at this point. Even the with update the data still doesn’t match current daily data. That being said this week will tell us a lot, especially re: NY and other hot spots.

I still feel good about a soft, staggered opening starting in July, Springs and resorts and then parks in Aug. If things keep trending better this week might even be sooner. If things keep going like it is going to be real hard to keep the stay at home in place for much longer than April. States will start opening up to get economy going and I could see FL move quicker.

The good news it appears the stay at home is working

Florida is peaking earlier because we took longer to shut down the critical areas that needed to and had travelers flooding in for too long.

The chart shows NY peaking a couple days sooner which lines up with current news. There seems to be more and more positive on the different treatments being treated.

Brianstl · Apr 6, 2020

xuxa777 said:
Well that main IHME model updated and as I expected dramatically reduced the amounts of deaths/cases. Florida peak is now 4/21 but I am not sure how valid the model is at this point. Even the with update the data still doesn’t match current daily data. That being said this week will tell us a lot, especially re: NY and other hot spots.

I still feel good about a soft, staggered opening starting in July, Springs and resorts and then parks in Aug. If things keep trending better this week might even be sooner. If things keep going like it is going to be real hard to keep the stay at home in place for much longer than April. States will start opening up to get economy going and I could see FL move quicker.

The good news it appears the stay at home is working

I was just going to post about this. This is some great news.

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