Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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gottalovepluto said:
And we’ve come full circle on the fair discussion! For the hundredth time lol. It was faster this time but the What Do You Want From Disney? They Did What They Are OBLIGATED To!!! crowd is in the house!

To actually answer your question- I am not spoon feeding the plethora of things Disney should do differently. We’ve already hashed and rehashed how the parks businesses could be better run right now in this very thread.
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So, in other words, you don’t have an idea of what you want?
 
Hettie said:
For the way we tour, I fear that 8 hours in the park is going to make us feel rushed. That’s probably weird since we don’t even do every attraction and spend a ton of time just moseying around, but last year we easily spent a full day- 8 am EMH until past 10 pm in Epcot. I don’t even know how we filled all of that time, only had one TS meal and waited 30 min for Soarin’. Everything else was FP or minimal wait. We looked in a couple of shops, watched the concert, visited some F&G booths...🤷🏻‍♀️ But my point is, an 8 hour park day doesn’t “feel” like it will leave much time for the proverbial rose-smelling, which is my favorite aspect of Epcot.
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From what I’ve seen since the reopening, people have been able to do literally everything available in a park in 6-8 hours. I don’t think cutting an hour is really going to have an effect on whether you can do everything you want.
 
FrankieWinthrop said:
Everyone fussing about the hours needs to remember we regularly got kicked out of MK at 6pm from August-January.
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We went last October and over 6 days MK was open past 6 just one I believe, as there were parties plus a private event.

And on that note to tie this back to should they or shouldn’t they discount? Disney never bothered to cut prices on party days where people lost out on 3+ hours of park time, a regular occurrence for 5 months of the year. Disney doesn’t discount tickets when major attractions go down. Disney didn’t lower prices when parks opened July 11th without the certain shows, nighttime entertainment, parades, certain stores and restaurants. It’s a slippery slope IMO. If they do it now, why not when parties return? If they do it now due to missing offerings, why not when ROTR is down for the day and a guest cannot ride? If they do it now, why not on those crazy MK days when all the mountains are down? If they do it now, why not on a crazy crowded day (those will come back, right lol?) where a guest cannot get as much done if they want to? What about when a parade is cancelled due to weather? I think directly discounting when something is missing from the parks is asking for trouble. And that’s not really a defence of Disney rather looking at the long term impacts of doing that.
 
TheMaxRebo said:
I think that they saw there isn't the demand/interest/willingness of enough people to travel try and court them, so rather than add things to try and attract more guests they are reducing expenses and figure the number of people won't drop that much - so decrease revenue but increase profits

But I definitely think for people on the fence this is another tally mark in the "let's cancel" column
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I think there’s a tipping point where people will just say “This isn’t worth it”. Every time that they make another cut, I think to myself, “Is this even worth it?” TBH, if I hadn’t committed my DVC points to a trip with my siblings in October, I’d have bailed out back in May.
 


Eric Smith said:
From what I’ve seen since the reopening, people have been able to do literally everything available in a park in 6-8 hours. I don’t think cutting an hour is really going to have an effect on whether you can do everything you want.
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“Doing everything” isn’t my objective. My point was that after easily spending over 13 hours at Epcot doing very little, 8 hours might not feel like much time. And they cut 2 hours, closing at 7 pm rather than 9 pm.
 
Eric Smith said:
So, in other words, you don’t have an idea of what you want?
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A major difference I would have liked to see was APs treated similar to multi day ticket holders. We have both. My kids multi day tickets were extended twice, no fuss, no contact needed, and will revert to a credit if not used by 09/26/2021 (at least to my knowledge they will). I don’t think I need to rehash the AP issues. Would have loved to see them put them all on hold until used, by a certain date if they needed to like the regular tickets, and then if not used revert to a credit like the regular tickets.

I think IRT the park experience it just is what it is and people who are going need to accept that and decide if it’s worth it to them. Disney is being very open with what is and isn’t happening.
 
It's not the less time in the parks that bothers me, we can go long enough that we could still get everything done with those hrs.

It's not being able to be there after dark. I LOVE to be in the parks when the sun is setting, the lights are coming on. It's my favorite part of the park experience. The sun sets by 8 in early May, so if parks open to 9 like normal (MK and Epcot at least) I would still see those parks after dark. :)

Again, I'm not too worried yet about next May, but seeing that they are already planning to have certain hotels closed through next September makes me more worried than I normally would be when reading these updates.
 


Eric Smith said:
What does that mean? They’re having to adjust to an external force that is out of their control. Would you expect them to drop prices if they had to cut hours during the day due to a hurricane? What if storms shut down the outdoor rides for a few hours, is that grounds for a discount?
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Considering they already do this at their waterparks as a courtesy to guests?
 
DGsAtBLT said:
We went last October and over 6 days MK was open past 6 just one I believe, as there were parties plus a private event.

And on that note to tie this back to should they or shouldn’t they discount? Disney never bothered to cut prices on party days where people lost out on 3+ hours of park time, a regular occurrence for 5 months of the year. Disney doesn’t discount tickets when major attractions go down. Disney didn’t lower prices when parks opened July 11th without the certain shows, nighttime entertainment, parades, certain stores and restaurants. It’s a slippery slope IMO. If they do it now, why not when parties return? If they do it now due to missing offerings, why not when ROTR is down for the day and a guest cannot ride? If they do it now, why not on those crazy MK days when all the mountains are down? If they do it now, why not on a crazy crowded day (those will come back, right lol?) where a guest cannot get as much done if they want to? What about when a parade is cancelled due to weather? I think directly discounting when something is missing from the parks is asking for trouble. And that’s not really a defence of Disney rather looking at the long term impacts of doing that.
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Disney can and will resolve most of the concerns you mention. Not through a discount, but by other means. Its not a blanket fix, but they have taken care of those who asked in the past. Now its just a blanket no.
 
Concerning the PP who stated 70% of potential guests won't be going to a theme park right now. I dropped mine to 50% for this Tuesday at HS. It's the first day, last day and only day of our cancelled AP. Who knows....if I feel comfortable enough, then next year might be another weekday AP purchase.
 
hertamaniac said:
Concerning the PP who stated 70% of potential guests won't be going to a theme park right now. I dropped mine to 50% for this Tuesday at HS. It's the first day, last day and only day of our cancelled AP. Who knows....if I feel comfortable enough, then next year might be another weekday AP purchase.
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I never know who takes these polls. Not just Disney ones, any.
Before the internet, did people actually get calls to answer these questions?

I've never been asked to take a poll. Do people just see them on websites? Is that where these numbers come from?
 
DGsAtBLT said:
Just saw another BC reservation moved - September 2021. Think it’s probably not a coincidence all those tickets got extended to 09/26/2021 and I’m going to look at it as Disney’s worst case date for return to “normal”, and maybe it happens sooner.
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IIRC, 9/26/2021 is the end of Disney's fiscal year, so to me, it seems possible that the extension date might have more to do with simplifying the accounting.
 
hertamaniac said:
Concerning the PP who stated 70% of potential guests won't be going to a theme park right now. I dropped mine to 50% for this Tuesday at HS. It's the first day, last day and only day of our cancelled AP. Who knows....if I feel comfortable enough, then next year might be another weekday AP purchase.
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I'm sorry :(
Farro said:
I never know who takes these polls. Not just Disney ones, any.
Before the internet, did people actually get calls to answer these questions?

I've never been asked to take a poll. Do people just see them on websites? Is that where these numbers come from?
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Agreed I have no idea who or how they poll.
 
How are the buses running at Pop now? Are the wait times still long for rope drop arrival and at close? I’m mostly interested in MK and DHS.
 
I think when it came to the reduction in EPCOT hours, they should have cut the hours off the front end of day and maybe even added an hour or two the back end of the day. If you want to drive business with food and wine, you want to be operating in the evening. Locals are not going to decide to do an evening out when it is going to end at 7.
 
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Brianstl said:
I think when it came to the reduction in EPCOT hours, they would have cut the hours off the front end of day and maybe even added an hour or two the back end of the day. If you want to drive business with food and wine, you want to be operating in the evening. Locals are not going to decide to do an evening out when it is going to end at 7.
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I agree.
Epcot could have opened at noon and closed at 9. Or something like that.
And perhaps they could rotate the hrs for parks, some open early/close early, other days they open later/close later - so every day a different park is open until 9.

Give the people at least one park at night, geez.
 
skeeter31 said:
I’m guessing it’s more like entire shifts will get cut, not an hour here and there. They can now get away with 2 PT shifts for an entire day at a park rather than having to use 3 PT shifts. But I’m thinking losing a shift or 2 a week is still preferable to getting laid off, which could still happen.
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In some areas cast is working six day weeks. They’ve started brining PT cast back to help reduce this. Hopefully this will result in a normal 40 hour week. I do realize that’s not everywhere. But Disney is trying to relocate cast that won’t be called back soon to other areas. I don’t see layoffs again but rather a reshuffling of cast. Without CP’s in the near future regular cast should be working again on a somewhat regular basis.
 
Farro said:
I never know who takes these polls. Not just Disney ones, any.
Before the internet, did people actually get calls to answer these questions?

I've never been asked to take a poll. Do people just see them on websites? Is that where these numbers come from?
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And what constitutes a poll.....3 people?
 
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