Rude Passengers - Magic Feb 10th sailing

[katmigordon]

This is one of the reasons I wish DCL would run movies 24/7 - Night owls and early risers could go to movies that were much less crowded.

I find the movie theater experience aboard DCL to be a major party atmosphere with not many people following typical movie theater etiquette. This really applies first-run movies and those super close to release day. I tried to watch The Force Awakens and it was jam packed with people sitting on the steps to watch the film. People were constantly getting up and down and as the OP has stated...there is no leg room so you have to get up to let the people go by. I guess I picked the wrong row because it happened at least 20 times. It was impossible to enjoy the film. People are also on their phones, talking etc.

Adam Hattan is a vlogger from the UK and just got back from his cruise on the Dream. He had to leave Frozen II because he had a very similar experience. It really is frustrating.

 

[MomOTwins]

This is one of the reasons I wish DCL would run movies 24/7 - Night owls and early risers could go to movies that were much less crowded.

I’ve heard the noise is an issue in rooms above the theater though—hopefully they can fix that on the new ships

 

[DVC_HK]

I did not think my mentioning stacking plates at the table was so controversial! I was taught from a young age that stacking plates at the table was unacceptable. Fine to stack them once they leave the table. I do sometimes see waiters stacking plates at the table as they pick them up and this makes me cringe. Lol. Usually this is at casual restaurants where service is at a minimum— no problem about minimum service, just stating. Also, if you work in fine dining, staff is reprimanded by management if any plates are stacked on the table by customers. Staff should remove your plate right as you finish. There should be no opportunity to stack plates.

But my real pet peeve is feet on the furniture and people sprawling out on chairs in public as though in their own bedroom. When we were kids our teachers used to repeatedly say, “Feet are for floors.” And, “Sit properly in your chair.” It is just drilled into my head. But I think most of the general population did not and do not hear these basic lessons. In some ways I think I would have been happier living during another time period. Lol.

You mean with fine dining and I agree with no stacking there as that is rude but at causal when we are leaving we help some

 

[Weedy]

I did not think my mentioning stacking plates at the table was so controversial! I was taught from a young age that stacking plates at the table was unacceptable. Fine to stack them once they leave the table. I do sometimes see waiters stacking plates at the table as they pick them up and this makes me cringe. Lol. Usually this is at casual restaurants where service is at a minimum— no problem about minimum service, just stating. Also, if you work in fine dining, staff is reprimanded by management if any plates are stacked on the table by customers. Staff should remove your plate right as you finish. There should be no opportunity to stack plates.

But my real pet peeve is feet on the furniture and people sprawling out on chairs in public as though in their own bedroom. When we were kids our teachers used to repeatedly say, “Feet are for floors.” And, “Sit properly in your chair.” It is just drilled into my head. But I think most of the general population did not and do not hear these basic lessons. In some ways I think I would have been happier living during another time period. Lol.

What the big rule at my house was
“Cut a bite eat a bite”
I can’t tell you how many adults I see cut up their whole plate of food like they are making the plate for a 3 year old.
Also no stacking or scraping the plates at my house

 

[PrincessShmoo]

What the big rule at my house was
“Cut a bite eat a bite”
I can’t tell you how many adults I see cut up their whole plate of food like they are making the plate for a 3 year old.
Also no stacking or scraping the plates at my house

Hmmm..... I usually cut everything up before eating. It saves time. Especially if you eat "like an American". That is switching up the knife and fork for cutting and eating.

Now, when I'm eating "European style" my fork stays in my left hand and the knife in my right and I cut as I eat.

 

[monkeydawn]

What the big rule at my house was
“Cut a bite eat a bite”
I can’t tell you how many adults I see cut up their whole plate of food like they are making the plate for a 3 year old.

Adding to this, Ive yet to see anyone other than my husband and me eat bread properly when out. I'm sure there are a few people that do and Im just too busy with the time consuming proper way to notice.
Ive never understood the reason for this but its the one thing from etiquette class that I dont have a reason for doing that I just cant bring myself not to do.

Servers rarely clear/ serve from the proper sides. On cruises, on land (nicer places, not, like Denny's)...it doesnt seem to matter.

 

[Canadian Harmony]

Similar here with the hotel room. Okay, I don’t empty the trash though. However, we always tidy up and put things away before we leave our room for the day. I also wipe down all the surface, except the floor, with disinfectant wipes. DD always says that the room is cleaner after us staying there. Lol!

I tidy up for the house cleaner.

I don't know, if someone was assaulting my knees repeatedly with their chair, I think I'd have some very non-Disney words for them.
Likewise, sitting ON my stuff. Moving it? Sure. Sitting in the chair on TOP of it? No

Word. I have terribly bad knees due to my military service. The first time she hit me would be the last time she hit me. And sitting ON my stuff? Nuh-uh. No dice.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Adding to this, Ive yet to see anyone other than my husband and me eat bread properly when out. I'm sure there are a few people that do and Im just too busy with the time consuming proper way to notice.
Ive never understood the reason for this but its the one thing from etiquette class that I dont have a reason for doing that I just cant bring myself not to do.

Servers rarely clear/ serve from the proper sides. On cruises, on land (nicer places, not, like Denny's)...it doesnt seem to matter.

Well, on occasion, onboard the ships, some of those tables are positioned in such a way that the server can't be on the "proper" side for serving/removal of plates. They do the best they can.

 

[monkeydawn]

Well, on occasion, onboard the ships, some of those tables are positioned in such a way that the server can't be on the "proper" side for serving/removal of plates. They do the best they can.

Obviously those arent the times I am talking about.

 

[MomOTwins]

Adding to this, Ive yet to see anyone other than my husband and me eat bread properly when out. I'm sure there are a few people that do and Im just too busy with the time consuming proper way to notice.
Ive never understood the reason for this but its the one thing from etiquette class that I dont have a reason for doing that I just cant bring myself not to do.

Servers rarely clear/ serve from the proper sides. On cruises, on land (nicer places, not, like Denny's)...it doesnt seem to matter.

Haha, I know what you mean. I grew up overseas and etiquette was definitely more of a thing there, so when I first went out with my now DH (then college boyfriend) and he took a roll, sliced open and made a butter sandwich my eyes just about bugged out of my head. Now I am thoroughly Americanized and don’t even notice how others are eating.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

This is so subjective - my wife does this out of habit - and has been thanked by servers for doing so repeatedly, that says - she does it in a very neat and organized way.

Absolutely it's subjective

From that list too there are too many things to count that are so eye-roll worthy. Reader's Digest is not a poor source but this article at least a bit over the top especially in these modern times.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

For what its worth, OP, I read it the same way. There is some ambiguity in what you wrote. And your reply here seems like a huge (rude) overreaction to what the PP wrote because they even leave room for possibly misinterpreting what was said.

I agree, it's how I read it as well. I also kinda didn't understand the very abrupt sign off from the OP..I personally didn't feel any responses or questions merited such tone either.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Seat saving is always a hotbed thing no matter if it's on a cruise or just a normal pool.

I don't see any problem with the getting the food part though I would personally send a person to get the food (so long as I knew it was a quick journey) but the 5K is a bit iffy.

For the 5K it doesn't excuse the other party's behavior which I would describe as passive and actively agressive in getting the area to themselves and yet it's possible that perhaps they viewed the OP as the ones in the wrong. You know the seat savers that go out in the morning and drape their stuff and towels and then show up hours later (or at least a significant amount of time). Now at the same time it's possible the other party could have moved elsewhere but I wasn't there I don't know if perhaps the location was what they really wanted or the number of chairs was preferable IDK. Either way it's possible they saw no one in sight for a long enough time period that they felt the OP fell into the seat saver category that is rarely appreciated.

As far as the movie theater..well did you happen to apologize to the lady the first time? Even if you didn't feel like you had to? You got the impression it was because your knees knocked her seat so even if it was not done on purpose we here in the Midwest often say "ope I'm sorry" anyways. From the woman's perspective you've bumped her multiple times and not even acknowledged it so she's probably thinking you're the rude or oblivious of personal space. Of course she doesn't have to push back on her seat (so better ways of handling that on her end).

Now the people stopping in the middle of the hallway--that's not an older person, large electric wheelchair issue at all. People do that all the time and it's def. frustrating when it happens. I do think wheelchairs (electric or otherwise) are a bit harder to maneuver oneself off to the side quickly enough but you should try if you can though. It's just no different than people who stop in the middle in general.

I def. think there are rude people but sometimes we also have to keep an open mind. I can easily say the OP was 100% in the right each and every time. OR I can also say that the OP was more the rude one. I'll also agree I think rude behavior tends to come from a sense of "it's my vacation" rather than a newbie situation. I do think there are times where confusion on the process would be more a newbie situation.

 

[Pixarfans]

Glad I request a private table! I’m pretty sure my kids and I are not following some of these etiquette rules. But we do say please, thank you and tip well.

As for the movie theater and it’s narrow rows. Is there a slight chance that she had no idea she was pushing into you? And maybe she was just cluelessly enjoying a movie and felt the need to stretch her legs on occasion and inadvertently bumped your legs in the process? There are many ways to look at every situation.

 

[Spiffy MacSpiff]

Adding to this, Ive yet to see anyone other than my husband and me eat bread properly when out. I'm sure there are a few people that do and Im just too busy with the time consuming proper way to notice.

My parents taught me that for meals in a nice restaurant or holiday/special meals at home, "bread should be broken, not bitten." In other words, you tear off a bite-sized piece, spread it, and then eat it. You don't slather the whole slice with butter or whatever and then take bites out of it like you would a wedge of pizza. I guess it seems a little fussy to some people, but it's how I was brought up and how the young MacSpiffs have been taught to deal with bread service in polite society. At home, not so much. But at least I know that they'll eventually be able to do formal dinners with interviewers or clients or whatever and their table manners won't be the thing that costs them a job or an account.

 

[Spiffy MacSpiff]

Too many people leave stuff on pool deck chairs all day for me to view anyone has having the right to stake out a pool chair for long periods of time. After standing there for 10-15 minutes, I would move stuff off of chairs too (or ask a CM to do it). Who knows if I showed up 10 seconds after you left or 2 hours? If you are just grabbing food and coming back, leave one person at the chairs to remove the possibility that you staked out your chairs at 6:30 am and don't plan on coming back until that evening.

10-15 minutes, really? That seems excessive. It's taken me longer than that to escort a small child to and from the restroom on a busy sea day, and we don't all have extra adults or older children handy to stand guard for every moment a chair is unoccupied. If you want to chuck the single towels and random flip flops off a row of otherwise unoccupied chairs after fifteen minutes, by all means have at it. But please don't be dumping all of my stuff into a puddle because my kid had to pee.

 

[Rob1872]

10-15 minutes, really? That seems excessive. It's taken me longer than that to escort a small child to and from the restroom on a busy sea day, and we don't all have extra adults or older children handy to stand guard for every moment a chair is unoccupied. If you want to chuck the single towels and random flip flops off a row of otherwise unoccupied chairs after fifteen minutes, by all means have at it. But please don't be dumping all of my stuff into a puddle because my kid had to pee.

This unfortunately is one of those issues where there are so many people who abuse the concept of saving chairs for long periods of time that it makes it hard for someone who is honestly just running off for something (even though I could practically take a toddler from the pool to my stateroom bathroom and back in 15 minutes). My question is how long is it reasonable to expect a parent to stand next to the pool while their kid is splashing around with 2 rows of chairs empty with random stuff on them? I have little to no tolerance for a family that has 4 or more chairs with coordinated stuff draped over them. If someone needs to use the bathroom, or get food from the quick serve places, then other members of the family can stay with the chairs. If everyone feels the need to leave at the time, then you no longer are using the chairs. If you plan on coming back in an hour, then hopefully you find chairs in an hour.

 

[hrhdhd]

Staff should remove your plate right as you finish.

No, that's rude. No plates should be removed until everyone at the table is finished eating.

 

[ludari]

I understand your frustration and having done 10+ cruises and most of them have been on Disney and trust me I've experienced similar situations especially as a solo cruiser. I'm not saying your reactions/responses where wrong but I've always tried to not make things worse by letting those situations ruin my vacation by either letting bother me or saying something or doing something that will probably make things worse.

 

[monkeydawn]

Maybe someone on Etsy needs to start selling "In the bathroom" or "Getting Snacks" chair magnets. LOL