***Official*** Pandora: The World of Avatar Information Thread

[MickeyMinnieMom]

So I agree with you. New things will always be popular and good rides and lands will always be popular regardless of what they are themed to. However, some things like Harry Potter and Star wars will do even better because they will bring die hard fans into Disney, who likely don't even go to Disney normally.

 

[KateP85]

You should be able to enter the FP line and that rider swap is good for three people. I don't see why it would be rejected before the expiration date.

ETA: Just realized your actual question. You're asking if you'll have to wait in the line to enter the land itself and not the attraction - right?. I'm not sure. I would think you would have to wait in line since it is not as time sensitive as a normal FP.

Yes, that was my concern. I think they'll still take the pass (or at least I hope they will!) but where we'll have to wait will impact what time we arrive. I'm thinking the fact that it's not time sensitive means we'll have to wait in the regular line to enter. I guess we'll get a cocktail and some snacks and plan to wait it out!

 

[kjs1976]

Heading to Pandora in 2 weeks. My brother is 6'3 and over 300 lbs. I know they have a test seat now and I've read some threads on how it kind of depends where you sit, but just checking to see if we should be concerned about his ability to fit on FOP. Thanks!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Heading to Pandora in 2 weeks. My brother is 6'3 and over 300 lbs. I know they have a test seat now and I've read some threads on how it kind of depends where you sit, but just checking to see if we should be concerned about his ability to fit on FOP. Thanks!

It's hard to know exactly - the main challenge point tends to be the leg restraints and having long legs and/or think calves seems to be the issue.

I would think at that size he *should* be ok but would definitely want to check the test seat

 

[Loopster]

I found this last week - looks like it's through July 4th (thank goodness bc we'll be there June 2nd!)
http://blog.touringplans.com/2017/0...ing-extra-magic-hours-disneys-animal-kingdom/

Sweet!! I hadn't seen the update. Thank you!! We are there June 1 so this is a nice bonus.

 

[Accident]

Heading to Pandora in 2 weeks. My brother is 6'3 and over 300 lbs. I know they have a test seat now and I've read some threads on how it kind of depends where you sit, but just checking to see if we should be concerned about his ability to fit on FOP. Thanks!

Honestly, you'd be surprised who isn't fitting. short, young, tall, heavy.. it really doesn't matter on this ride.. If you sit down in the seat wrong, you wont fit... Everyone take a moment and look at the seat, a stick may not fit because of how your legs go. My legs were completely wrong when I almost didn't fit and you can't really see the seat well where your knees go once inside so everyone take a quick second to look at the seat and see how your feet aren't suppose to be flat. Pictures given in this thread work because they are shorter but when your in the seat right, your feet aren't flat on the ground.

 

[patrickpiteo]

Honestly, you'd be surprised who isn't fitting. short, young, tall, heavy.. it really doesn't matter on this ride.. If you sit down in the seat wrong, you wont fit... Everyone take a moment and look at the seat, a stick may not fit because of how your legs go. My legs were completely wrong when I almost didn't fit and you can't really see the seat well where your knees go once inside so everyone take a quick second to look at the seat and see how your feet aren't suppose to be flat. Pictures given in this thread work because they are shorter but when your in the seat right, your feet aren't flat on the ground.

Ok so how should your feet be? Cause looking at the test seat in this thread the persons feet sure do,ooo,flat to the ground

 

[Spridell]

Ok so how should your feet be? Cause looking at the test seat in this thread the persons feet sure do,ooo,flat to the ground

There is a video on youtube. Though dont know how good it will do since the person is pretty skinny

 

[patrickpiteo]

I have said this before and I'll say it again. Mobile Ordering is the best!!
I used it 3 times yesterday. First I used it around 8:30 am for breakfast. The ordering line was about 10 minutes. I sat down and ordered my food through the app, paid and said "I'm here" in 2 minutes got the notiffication that it was ready and proceed to the Mobile pick up window. It took less than a minute
For lunch the regular wait was about 15 minutes at 3pm, they notified me my food was ready in about 5 minutes.
In the evening I wanted to try the Mo'ara beer and Pongu Pongu line was about 20 minutes long, I remembered seeing this beer in the Satu'li menu, ordered it, had it in my hand within 5 minutes
Obviously wait times will get longer as people learn about this but still no need to wait in line anymore, you could wait sitting at your table

Can't wait till they expand this throughout WDW

 

[Accident]

Ok so how should your feet be? Cause looking at the test seat in this thread the persons feet sure do,ooo,flat to the ground

There is a picture in this thread many pages back from early yesterday. When you see the seat it'll make more sense and if I can walk into pandora again later, I'll specifically try to get a photo of your knees. Basically there is a spot for your knees that is shaped and when you sit in it, you feet and legs will look like your racing motorcycles where your toes are behind you. Obviously if your legs aren't long enough for that, you won't get into that position and that is what is in the pics.. but for the taller (no clue what height woudl start it), if you don't get your knees in the right spot, you wont' be sitting all the way forward and it'll domino effect how the restraints won't lock.

but some younger who were shorter but tall enough to ride also had issues in preview with the leg restraints. The seat is just weird and uncomfortable and I get what they were after but they really could have made part of a couple bays an alternative seating arrangement.

 

[HopperFan]

i get his point but i do wonder about the lasting power of the Pandora land beyond the FOP attraction. especially if the subsequent movies aren't successful.

It's been said many times already. The movies will not play a part in this land being successful or not. I'm sure of all the people that were in Pandora yesterday, there were many that haven't seen the movie. The land is beautiful during the day and beyond beautiful at night. Disney just took the idea of Pandora, the land, not the movie and made it a real world you can enjoy!

A matter of opinion, but as I've said before, I do think the IP factors into HOW SUCCESSFUL / POPULAR something is. And I think @dbavis has a legitimate point. The success or lack thereof of future movies would logically impact HOW popular this land is. Not whether it will get ANY traffic as time goes on, but how much. Think Harry Potter or Star Wars... I think IP pretty clearly matters.

I was against this coming to AK due to the alien part and because I wanted mythical animals .... but I also admit I had not seen the movie. DS had seen the movie and stated it was visually beautiful but a completely unoriginal story aka Fern Gully. Could see it visually fitted but not sure otherwise.

When we went to AP Preview I had purposely chosen to not watch the movie to see if someone clueless about Avatar could enjoy the land without any knowledge of the IP. We both LOVED the land, the creativity and beauty. I would gladly hang out in there any day with or without rides. It would be interesting to learn as I go and come to appreciate the purposes. As far as the rides, FoP was fun and "freeing" that other simulator rides are not, it could have been Pandora or just any other fantasy fairy land. I needed nothing from the movie to enjoy it. NRJ .... well, it was stunning and we both agreed had zero purpose. No story, no explanation, no nothing .... just lots of pretty and weird stuff. Remember when Whoopi toured with someone telling her what everything was ... we needed that. I'll ride when the line is short but otherwise, no effort will be made. Since DS who saw the movie agreed with me on the river ride, I'd say even IP didn't help there, it needs some additions.

I think the land will continue to be a huge draw due to it's architecture, art, fantasy, beauty and uniqueness. No IP needed, they honestly could remove the Na'vi and change the name and it easily be something else. Successful for Disney is popular rides and guests spending money at stores or in restaurants. Look at all the banshees sold - and I bet most of those people never saw the movie. Again, I was against it but the final product is very good (with room to improve .. ie. NRJ).

Where was the face painting, please?

Unless moved during preview it was just after you came in on the left close to that bathroom area. They have the designs painted on hard "masks" kinda like a totem pole.

 

[Accident]

Can't wait till they expand this throughout WDW

I forget where but I think a couple more places already have. or at least i think I read a news article on that.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Successful for Disney is popular rides and guests spending money at stores or in restaurants. Look at all the banshees sold - and I bet most of those people never saw the movie. Again, I was against it but the final product is very good (with room to improve .. ie. NRJ).

Agree! My point is that solid IP 1) enhances the odds that rides/lands are popular with MANY people, and 2) brings in people who may not be that jazzed about WDW in general (like with SW or HP), and 3) increases odds that people are actually interested in the merch.

I can tell you this: I HATED the movie -- HATED!! I am sure that I'll LOVE the Pandora land. But there is NO WAY that I will wear a t-shirt associated in any way with that movie. None. I suspect I'm not alone. Now that banshee... ... my kids didn't like the movie either, but one of them STILL wants a banshee!

All this to say that I will place bets now that SW land is more popular than Pandora. At opening and into the future (unless the rides somehow are AWFUL, which I doubt). And that is because of the IP.

 

[FoxC63]

I am 5'2" and I um weigh...um more than Yullin...I rode during my preview without issue. Here is a picture of me and my 83 year old mother the day that we both rode it. She loved it.

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Love this picture and thanks for posting! Great to see your mom out and about!

 

[FoxC63]

Oh, did they have Special Edition maps?

 

[DisneyKoolaid]

Back again and I'm not sure if someone already said this but a CM told me that there are no plans right now for the single rider line to be open this weekend. She said that it was "not open indefinitely" Did anyone actually get to use the single rider line this morning? I'm curious because the line instantly merges with FP.

 

[HopperFan]

Agree! My point is that solid IP 1) enhances the odds that rides/lands are popular with MANY people, and 2) brings in people who may not be that jazzed about WDW in general (like with SW or HP), and 3) increases odds that people are actually interested in the merch.

I can tell you this: I HATED the movie -- HATED!! I am sure that I'll LOVE the Pandora land. But there is NO WAY that I will wear a t-shirt associated in any way with that movie. None. I suspect I'm not alone. Now that banshee... ... my kids didn't like the movie either, but one of them STILL wants a banshee!

All this to say that I will place bets now that SW land is more popular than Pandora. At opening and into the future. And that is because of the IP.

I don't think anyone thinks this will compete with HP or SWL, even Disney can't believe that. They are both global, with multiple stories, with hardcore fans who have these IPs part of their lives and celebrations. Avatar is a one time big hit movie that no one I know talks about or even remembers (except how long it is). I mean no one says "hey, let's have an Avatar festival"... What it brings to Disney is it's beauty that is "out of this world" and could truly be back drop for lots of stories. There is always a market for merchandise based on fantasy and that is who is buying, they are buying for the fantasy, colors, uniqueness of products.

My other DS knows nothing, understands nothing of Avatar. Loved the land and loved FoP calling it Flying Dragon. He wanted to buy a Flying Dragon. As long as the money flows and that park if full, Disney will consider it a success.

 

[rteetz]

I don't think anyone thinks this will compete with HP or SWL, even Disney can't believe that. They are both global, with multiple stories, with hardcore fans who have these IPs part of their lives ad celebrations. Avatar is a one time big hit movie that no one I know talks about or even remembers (except how long it is). I mean no one says "hey, let's have an Avatar festival"... What it brings to Disney is it's beauty that is "out of this world" and could truly be back drop for lots of stories. There is always a market for merchandise based on fantasy and that is who is buying, they are buying for the fantasy, colors, uniqueness of products.

My DS knows nothing, understands nothing of Avatar. Loved the land and loved FoP calling it Flying Dragon. He wanted to buy a Flying Dragon. As long as the money flows and that park if full, Disney will consider it a success.

Well if the sequels are popular that will help the land stay popular.

 

[lovethattink]

Honestly, you'd be surprised who isn't fitting. short, young, tall, heavy.. it really doesn't matter on this ride.. If you sit down in the seat wrong, you wont fit... Everyone take a moment and look at the seat, a stick may not fit because of how your legs go. My legs were completely wrong when I almost didn't fit and you can't really see the seat well where your knees go once inside so everyone take a quick second to look at the seat and see how your feet aren't suppose to be flat. Pictures given in this thread work because they are shorter but when your in the seat right, your feet aren't flat on the ground.

I didn't ride, but my husband did. He was told to sit up straight. He did. And he was asked to lift his legs before he got.

 

[sjs314]

You can do either.
ROL has handicapped seating with spots for guests using mobility devices to park in multiple areas in both the Fastpass and Standby areas. There are also some marked seats for guests who prefer to transfer from their ECV into the regular seating (or if the parking spots are full).

This thread has more information, including pictures:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/rivers-of-light-wheelchair-ecv-access.3586810/page-2#post-57507596

Thx 4 the link