Disney Skyliner (Gondola Transportation System) Read Post 1 Now Open!

[Weedy]

Source.....?

http://www.wdwmagic.com/transportat...ntenance-gondolas-take-to-skyliner-cables.htm

 

[rteetz]

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They were actually first seen a couple days ago by various sources.

 

[DanBoris]

It's all speculation at this point, but if they aren't getting milestone payments they fronted a lot of money earlier than had to and most businesses try to avoid that. But like you said, there is risk in slow rolling or additional cost if you already have everything lined up.

At the end of the, no one actually knows when the have over date was supposed to be. And we don't know if it is delayed i if it is Doppelmayr's fault or if Disney changed specs/didn't confirm soon enough.

It's looking pretty likely that the delay in the cabins is Dopplemayr's fault, since there are at least two other systems that are currently being delayed due to supply chain problems from Dopplemyr.

 

[DanBoris]

Hope Osha wasn't there today....and is that asphalt realy that bumpy? It looks like a ride in and of itself....

I wonder if that is just some sort of photographic distortion.

 

[Dan Murphy]

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[OSUZorba]

It's looking pretty likely that the delay in the cabins is Dopplemayr's fault, since there are at least two other systems that are currently being delayed due to supply chain problems from Dopplemyr.

I hadn't seen that. Then yeah it is probably on them. I wonder if they over extended themselves or if something else is going on. Since the cabins are coming out of a factory and there isn't really anything innovative about them it seems like that should've been easy to plan. But of course, stuff happens.

 

[OSUZorba]

I wonder if that is just some sort of photographic distortion.

I think it is just the drainage in the parking lot, but the photograph flattens the depth so it looks more steep than it actually is.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Osha does not prevent you from working on high. It's required for a lot of jobs. If you look closely at the photo you will see they are wearing safety lines. Osha can drop by anytime I'm sure.

Yeah, but as someone who works up high quite often, OSHA wouldn't like the one guy standing on the safety rail. Safety rails are there for one purpose and use as a ladder is not one of them.

 

[Dan Murphy]

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Great site. Thanks.

2 video updates from yesterday.

http://passporttotheparks.com/

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I think it is just the drainage in the parking lot, but the photograph flattens the depth so it looks more steep than it actually is.

That makes sense - it looks like a roller coaster but it is probably actually over like 2 football fields long piece of road so doesn't feel nearly as thrilling when driving on it

 

[Mikey15]

Possibly also at opening, especially at CBR where everyone will be funneled into one line for each park. It's common to have 2 or 3 busloads of people waiting in the queues at Pop & AoA around 9am in the morning.

But with continuous-moving gondolas, there won't be 2-3 buses of people waiting in queues.

This new system has an estimated capacity of between 4,000 and 5,000 passengers per hour per direction, making it one of the highest capacity gondola systems in the world.

Depending on strollers and scooters, a busload from Pop/AoA could be 30-40 people. Gondolas can load a busload in around 30 seconds? I get what you're saying that it's a lot of people, but at that capacity, the queues shouldn't get a chance to fill up.

 

[rteetz]

 

[sachilles]

That makes sense - it looks like a roller coaster but it is probably actually over like 2 football fields long piece of road so doesn't feel nearly as thrilling when driving on it

Jeez, Disney uses forced perspective on everything these days.

 

[joelkfla]

But with continuous-moving gondolas, there won't be 2-3 buses of people waiting in queues.

Probably not, except when a mass of cheerleaders or a huge South American tour group hits, but it may be enough that Disney has to combine parties to keep up. And, again, especially when one of those large groups, all heading to the same park, runs into other Guests at the Caribbean Transfer.

At least in the morning, most Guests won't be stinky yet. And riders tend to be in a better mood in the morning than after a hard day in the parks (why I always preferred driving a morning bus over a night bus.)

 

[gap2368]

But with continuous-moving gondolas, there won't be 2-3 buses of people waiting in queues.

Depending on strollers and scooters, a busload from Pop/AoA could be 30-40 people. Gondolas can load a busload in around 30 seconds? I get what you're saying that it's a lot of people, but at that capacity, the queues shouldn't get a chance to fill up.

I recall there was long lines for the gandola that was in the MK. now those only held 4 people but there was still a long wait as I remember I can see a long wait(20-30 minutes ) in the morning and park closing

 

[SgtTibbs]

Probably not, except when a mass of cheerleaders or a huge South American tour group hits, but it may be enough that Disney has to combine parties to keep up. And, again, especially when one of those large groups, all heading to the same park, runs into other Guests at the Caribbean Transfer.

At least in the morning, most Guests won't be stinky yet. And riders tend to be in a better mood in the morning than after a hard day in the parks (why I always preferred driving a morning bus over a night bus.)

Sure. There will be lines, there will always be lines at Disney but what I do expect from a system with higher/constantly loading capacity is shorter lines. Standing still for half an hour in the sun outside Pop Century waiting for a bus should be a thing of the past.

Plus I'd expect the constantly moving gondolas will have better ventilation to help with the guest stink issue.

 

[sachilles]

I recall there was long lines for the gandola that was in the MK. now those only held 4 people but there was still a long wait as I remember I can see a long wait(20-30 minutes ) in the morning and park closing

Apples to oranges on that one.
That was not a detachable lift. So load time and transport time were much slower. The haulrope needs to run slow enough, to slow the car in order to load it.

 

[OSUZorba]

Probably not, except when a mass of cheerleaders or a huge South American tour group hits, but it may be enough that Disney has to combine parties to keep up. And, again, especially when one of those large groups, all heading to the same park, runs into other Guests at the Caribbean Transfer.

At least in the morning, most Guests won't be stinky yet. And riders tend to be in a better mood in the morning than after a hard day in the parks (why I always preferred driving a morning bus over a night bus.)

Remember, 4500/hr is a full 737 worth of people every two minutes. Even big groups will be sent on their way quickly.

 

[joelkfla]

Remember, 4500/hr is a full 737 worth of people every two minutes. Even big groups will be sent on their way quickly.

I am not saying that the Skyliner will not be an efficient mode of transportation; I've argued that it will be. I'm just saying Disney may have to load the cabins close to capacity at park opening as well as at closing.

 

[joelkfla]

Apples to oranges on that one.
That was not a detachable lift. So load time and transport time were much slower. The haulrope needs to run slow enough, to slow the car in order to load it.

They were detachable. They were propelled by gravity, inertia, and muscle power thru the stations. Cm's stopped the cabins for loading, and then pushed them down a rail that sloped down to the reattachment point. That's the same way BGT's skyride works. At night, the cabins were taken off line and stored behind the Tomorrowland station.

They were low capacity because they stopped for loading, they only loaded one cabin at a time, they only carried 4 passengers, and the cable ran at a much slower speed.

At 2:15 in this video, you can see the cm holding the cabin stationary beyond the turning bullwheel.