The images show the same system just Disney is installing cabins instead of ski lifts.More like this
Yes we are all aware.The cabins will look like this
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Inside will have wooden benches
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Any idea on the number of doombuggies per minute in at HH?Right - it's easy enough to think about. If Disney is gunning for 5000 per hour -that's 83 people per minute or 8.3 cars per minute (assuming 10 people is used for the capacity calculations) or a car leaving every 7.2 seconds).
Personally I don't think this is all that realistic, so I am not sure where the 5000 per hour each way number came from. If that's really the capacity each way - that's also a full bus in less than a minute, or around 80 busses an hour. I am sure Disney wants to make sure they don't have bottlenecks, but even 3000 per hour is 50 buses an hour, and that's more than twice the CURRENT bus capacity, and also a more reasonable 12 seconds per car.
In the end - I don't think it really matters - capacity is NEVER going to be an issue.
The big issue will be how they handle shutdown for weather.
And of course we can't forget air conditioning.
That is really cool, I've never seen a detachable chairlift before. That post shows that they can change the spacing in the station, which is what I think they'll do at Riveria for slow loads.This is the system Disney is installing
https://liftblog.com/2018/12/15/big-sky-doppelmayr-christen-ramcharger-8/
Any idea on the number of doombuggies per minute in at HH?
I have no idea how capacity is calculated per doom buggy but HM max capacity is 3200pph. Real world capacity is 2880pph. Max capacity with 2 people to a doom buggy would be 4.4 doom buggies per minute and real world would be 4 per minute. https://crooksinwdw.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/theoreticaloperational-hourly-ride-capacity-at-wdw/
Someone will be along shortly to tell me how bad my math is.
Any idea on the number of doombuggies per minute in at HH?
Even at the higher speed, the cabins would be in the slow part of the station for ~70-90 seconds. I think that'll be enough time if Disney has enough CMs running it.
That is really cool, I've never seen a detachable chairlift before. That post shows that they can change the spacing in the station, which is what I think they'll do at Riveria for slow loads.
Or like 24 per minute.
If they can load 24 doombuggies a minute all day, I think they'll be able to hit 8 gondolas per minute. Disney are the master's at treating ride loading as an assembly line.Or like 24 per minute.
I knew I screwed something up. Should have been a doom buggy every 2.5-3 seconds not 4 per minute.
If they can load 24 doombuggies a minute all day, I think they'll be able to hit 8 gondolas per minute. Disney are the master's at treating ride loading as an assembly line.
What might hurt them with hitting that speed is it won't be any where near capacity most of the time, so the CMs may get a bit lax.
At park closing is when it would matter. Any other time of the day if you have to skip a gondola or two because you got behind I don't think it'll be a big deal.If it is nowhere near capacity most of the time then the load speed isn't going to matter.
Is there any speculation that the construction of the stations has anything to do with the fall opening? Are most of the stations close to completion?
I agree.I recall there was long lines for the gandola that was in the MK. now those only held 4 people but there was still a long wait as I remember I can see a long wait(20-30 minutes ) in the morning and park closing
Just curious as to where these numbers are from? Is the 737 worth of people the combined number of people at all 5 load points? Even that seems high as it would be 147.4 people per station loading every 2 minutes or, 73.7 people per minute. If each gondola holds the anticipated number of 8 people that means each gondola needs to arrive, load and be on it's way in less than 10 seconds. I just can't see that happening! I've seen a lot of gondolas in operation and none of them move at that speed in the stations nor is it humanly possible for each person to fully load the gondola in 1 second which is what it would take for these numbers to happen.Remember, 4500/hr is a full 737 worth of people every two minutes. Even big groups will be sent on their way quickly.
The cabins hold up to 10 people.If each gondola holds the anticipated number of 8 people that means each gondola needs to arrive, load and be on it's way in less than 10 seconds. I just can't see that happening! I've seen a lot of gondolas in operation and none of them move at that speed in the stations nor is it humanly possible for each person to fully load the gondola in 1 second which is what it would take for these numbers to happen.
After being in the MK during an extremely busy night Saturday and seeing even the continuously moving rides (Haunted Mansion, People Mover, Buzz Lightyear, etc) with extremely long lines (45 mins plus for each except the People Mover which still snaked back and forth about 6 times before ending over by Astro Orbiter) I can't see the gondolas being able to keep up with the crowds.
I'm not saying the lines will be huge all the time but I'm fully anticipating waiting for a while at park opening and close.
Will the majority of people load in one location and others (wheelchairs, ECVs, etc) in the other line or do you anticipate them splitting the lines in 2 and each line will handle 50% of the people?The cabins hold up to 10 people.
Disney is looking to hit roughly 4500-5000 an hour I believe. Also remember these stations have two loads something never really done before.
While there may be a minimal wait at peak times I don't think it ever hits 20-30 minutes due to nature of this system and its capacity.
Just curious as to where these numbers are from? Is the 737 worth of people the combined number of people at all 5 load points? Even that seems high as it would be 147.4 people per station loading every 2 minutes or, 73.7 people per minute. If each gondola holds the anticipated number of 8 people that means each gondola needs to arrive, load and be on it's way in less than 10 seconds. I just can't see that happening! I've seen a lot of gondolas in operation and none of them move at that speed in the stations nor is it humanly possible for each person to fully load the gondola in 1 second which is what it would take for these numbers to happen.
After being in the MK during an extremely busy night Saturday and seeing even the continuously moving rides (Haunted Mansion, People Mover, Buzz Lightyear, etc) with extremely long lines (45 mins plus for each except the People Mover which still snaked back and forth about 6 times before ending over by Astro Orbiter) I can't see the gondolas being able to keep up with the crowds.
I'm not saying the lines will be huge all the time but I'm fully anticipating waiting for a while at park opening and close.
Saturday night when we were on our way back from the MK around 8:30 we saw 2 Disney buses run off the road. It was hard to tell exactly what happened but both were sitting in the grassy area between the main highway and an exit ramp. Not sure which bus might have changed it's mind but it appears that's what happened. Guessing there were not any injuries (at least that we heard of) but the next day when we passed the same spot it was very easy to see all the ruts in the grass where the 2 buses had come to rest. When we passed by there were many police cars there and large vehicles so guessing it had happened a while before we arrived.
Most likely the majority of people will load in one location while those that need extra time to board will load in the secondary location.Will the majority of people load in one location and others (wheelchairs, ECVs, etc) in the other line or do you anticipate them splitting the lines in 2 and each line will handle 50% of the people?