Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[lklgoodman]

Vaccine is at least 12 months out, even fast-tracked. Science has rules, and vaccine is one of those things that has time issues. Especially when you can't do testing in mice.

(Mice can't contract this virus.)

At least we know Mickey and Minnie are safe Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[DIS_MIKE]

As much as I love cruising, I’m taking a break this year, need to save up for our 2021 Med cruise anyway.

I figure if my May cruise gets canceled, I will take a break as well and just splurge in 18 months from now.

 

[DisneyFan1005]

Anyone on here booked on the Disney Fantasy May 15 for the 7 night eastern Caribbean? Wondering who is and has canceled or is waiting (like me) to see what happens?

 

[cvjw]

Anyone on here booked on the Disney Fantasy May 15 for the 7 night eastern Caribbean? Wondering who is and has canceled or is waiting (like me) to see what happens?

We are. Not sure what we are doing - we for sure are cancelling the cruise. We are torn between cancelling now and taking the 10% deposit loss, taking the 100% credit for rebooking, or waiting to see if our cruise is cancelled and we get a full refund or a 125% rebooking credit. Any replacement cruise that we can book right now is at least $1000 more for our same cabins due to the schedules of our college student son and international tax accountant son. No option is really good for us!

 

[TheSpooph]

We are on the May 23 departure and we are planning to rebook. At this point, we are going to wait until the last moment to see what happens. The rebooking window has already been extended (15 mos vs 12 mos). Maybe more things will change.

Who knows what will happen as we get closer. We figure it doesn’t hurt to wait it out and see what Disney decides to do.

 

[DisneyFan1005]

We are. Not sure what we are doing - we for sure are cancelling the cruise. We are torn between cancelling now and taking the 10% deposit loss, taking the 100% credit for rebooking, or waiting to see if our cruise is cancelled and we get a full refund or a 125% rebooking credit. Any replacement cruise that we can book right now is at least $1000 more for our same cabins due to the schedules of our college student son and international tax accountant son. No option is really good for us!

I think the best option is to wait and see if they will cancel. I booked this cruise with a 20% discount because I was supposed to be on the dream sailing that was canceled because of hurricane Dorian !

 

[jcourtney]

I work at a university. They have emptied the dorms and told students to do all classes remotely. The staff, however, are still expected to come in unless you have symptoms or are taking care of someone with symptoms. My husband just finished 9 weeks of cancer treatment, so I am terrified I will bring something home to him. I wish the dang school would just close for the two weeks so we can shutter in place! The stress and worry about all this and how the precautions are not overall, but just county by county or state to state is ridiculous. It's like picking at a scab -- they need to make a decision and have it be across the country and get it over with! Stepping off my soapbox now.

I feel you! I also work at a university, everything is shut down but all 3000 staff are still expected to come in to work. Makes no sense to me! It's stressing me out. I need a vacation...but it was cancelled! haha.

 

[slg]

Same here....so scary. I want to fast forward through this.

 

[mswhittaker]

Anyone on here booked on the Disney Fantasy May 15 for the 7 night eastern Caribbean? Wondering who is and has canceled or is waiting (like me) to see what happens?

We are on the May 9 Western. Waiting for Disney to initiate the cancelation since we have until the day before to cancel if they don’t. If it were just us we’d move it now because this would have been our 9th cruise so it’s not that big of a deal to push it out, but this was the first cruise other family was joining us on (first cruise ever for them) and they’re not in the same position to be able to rebook at a higher price. We are hoping we could get the extra credit if we wait for Disney to cancel. I fully expect not to go on this cruise though.

 

[coloradocutie]

With the conference today stating that we may be on the backside of this in July/August, I am even less confident now that the Magic will go overseas...

What conference? Can you tell more?

 

[ajo]

What conference? Can you tell more?

I think they are referring to President Trump’s press conference today.

 

[Intr3pid]

Coronavirus Australia: Queensland researchers find ‘cure’, want drug trial

"A team of Australian researchers say they’ve found a cure for the novel coronavirus and hope to have patients enrolled in a nationwide trial by the end of the month."

Still unclear on how they have found these 'cure' candidates. The way it reads is, Chinese patients, while in Australia, showed Australia doctors some references on the Internet of the drugs being used effectively overseas.

Where overseas? In China?

 

[Adventurelawyer]

Still unclear on how they have found these 'cure' candidates. The way it reads is, Chinese patients, while in Australia, showed Australia doctors some references on the Internet of the drugs being used effectively overseas.

Where overseas? In China?

Yes. They are being used in China. The problem with just calling them the drugs of choice is that the data is a mess and wasn't taken consistently or in a controlled manner. It was a free for fall, so the study needs to be completed in a more orderly fashion. The drugs are already widely in use and approved for other disease, so putting them into trial is much quicker than it otherwise would be. All if the drugs mentioned are antiretroviral HIV immunosuppressants or Antimalarials. The thing that ends up killing many people with Covid 19 is the cytokine storm that is created by your own body in fighting the disease. Stopping or slowing cytokines stops you from dying, apparently.

 

[DIS_MIKE]

We are. Not sure what we are doing - we for sure are cancelling the cruise. We are torn between cancelling now and taking the 10% deposit loss, taking the 100% credit for rebooking, or waiting to see if our cruise is cancelled and we get a full refund or a 125% rebooking credit. Any replacement cruise that we can book right now is at least $1000 more for our same cabins due to the schedules of our college student son and international tax accountant son. No option is really good for us!

Pretty much the same as me at this point. I would rather be given the opportunity to cancel and receive a full refund at this point. If Disney decided to offer the 125% rebooking credit then maybe I can figure something out. Like so many others have said....it's schedule conflicts but more importantly the prices are much higher which is the real issue.

 

[Starwind]

Yes. They are being used in China. The problem with just calling them the drugs of choice is that the data is a mess and wasn't taken consistently or in a controlled manner. It was a free for fall, so the study needs to be completed in a more orderly fashion. The drugs are already widely in use and approved for other disease, so putting them into trial is much quicker than it otherwise would be. All if the drugs mentioned are antiretroviral HIV immunosuppressants or Antimalarials. The thing that ends up killing many people with Covid 19 is the cytokine storm that is created by your own body in fighting the disease. Stopping or slowing cytokines stops you from dying, apparently.

I had read about the drugs a number of weeks ago when clinical trials for them started being announced in a a few countries, including China.

Basically, scientists [worldwide] had gone through about 40,000 existing drugs looking for ones that showed liklihood of having effects on covid based on in vivo and in vitro studies done previously, including studies done wrt SARS and MERS.

The two the Austrialians are discussing, one an HIV antiviral and the other Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine were two of the most promising that came out of culling down the 40,000. I paid the most attention to the Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine as I currently take Hydroxychloroquine for RA. Basically in vitro (ie in the lab) studies it has very promising results. This is a good explanation for it: https://watermark.silverchair.com/c...nlOpPBAc5hwS1Chdb0xQmEadbWQVtQjmgw8a6fXJxR0UQ

Now they have to do the clinical trials to see if it ACTUALLY works in humans, which are underway in China and a number of other countries.

Both of the antivirals work at messing with the activity of the virus itself, impacting its ability to infect/reproduce/etc.

There are other studies looking at ways to modulate the cytokine storm that is the cause of death in some cases. One of the drugs under study for that is actually an antibiotic [not because the antibiotic is killing anything in the case of covid, but because the drug apparently has an effect on the immune system which can modulate it and reduce the cytokine storm in some cases].

As an aside, some countries are now taking action to prevent export and hording of these drugs.

Hopefully they will get some effective treatments. Whether that will have an impact on how long all of this lasts, I don't know.

We have a cruise booked for NEXT summer 2021. We are hoping it can still go forward, but even if cruises are back on by then we will still have to do some serious thinking on whether we tackle a cruise at that point or wait another year into 2022. Part of that decision will hinge on if there is an effective vaccine or not, etc. We are at higher risk for complications, and that is also a factor in decision-making.

SW

 

[Birdie dog]

I don't know if it's been reported here or not but a positive Covid 19 patient sailed the Wonder from Feb 27th to March 2nd.

I don't know if I can copy the link, but if it doesn't work, the source is the Sun Herald.com.

 

[BadPinkTink]

I don't know if it's been reported here or not but a positive Covid 19 patient sailed the Wonder from Feb 27th to March 2nd.

I don't know if I can copy the link, but if it doesn't work, the source is the Sun Herald.com.

Already posted https://www.disboards.com/threads/w...orleans-test-positive-for-coronavirus.3796918

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The issue with a treatment is people still get it and spread it, which may continue to be a problem for large group gatherings

 

[slg]

I might take a credit and park it as I think the prices are going to come way down in the future. Until there is a vaccine and a cure, few people are going to want to cruise.

 

[Adventurelawyer]

The issue with a treatment is people still get it and spread it, which may continue to be a problem for large group gatherings

Those treatments are for the extremely ill. Those patients are not walking around or hitting happy hour. OTC cold medicine is helping to spread the disease more than those drugs ever will. Right now the absolute stunning number of early Baby Boomers out there living there best lives while the rest of us hole up for the CovPocolypse has a greater impact on spread and mortality rates than Doxy and Cholrquinolone, which are still in trials and by prescription only. I’m still shocked by the lack of compliance from a group who should have some recollection of the fears their parents had over polio outbreaks or at least some healthy level of concern for their own health vs personal liberty interests. That generation seems to have more in common with the millennials they call snowflake than they realize. I mean no disrespect to either group, its just ironic that two generations that are about distinguishing themsleves from each other, are acting alike and contributing to the problem. YOLO, I guess.

Any treatments are better than no treatments. Looking forward to reading about them all. Truthfully, I hope they all work!