Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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I get what you’re saying and you’re probably not trying to paint everyone who is actively choosing not to go with the same brush, but at the same time it feels a lot like telling those of us who are refusing to go right now for virus related reasons (or those who don’t like limitations and rules that the virus has made necessary - not people angry with Disney for those decisions) that without us WDW is going to be a better experience.

There are a lot of us who are staying away for one reason or another who are happy and friendly and maybe even fun when we’re in WDW. Maybe it’s less pleasant without us there, lol :ssst:
Thanks for this. I’ve been trying to find a way to respond to that insulting post and couldn’t manage to do it in a way that wouldn’t score me a few points. I probably take it too personally after having dealt with a little boy crying his eyes out because he’s being disappointed again then reading that WDW is going to be a better place because he and his family won’t be there.
I didn't write the OP- but I feel like this is getting taken the wrong way. I absolutely do think that it will be a better experience if the parks are full of people who are less uncomfortable with the inherent risk that visiting the parks right now brings. If you are visiting in the opening weeks you absolutely should be comfortable with a certain level of risk.

That doesn't mean that everyone else shouldn't be welcomed at some point or that they are not good people, but in the opening phases a higher level of overall guest comfort with the risk level will allow for lower levels of things like guest on guest mask enforcement, CM confrontations, etc etc..

That isn't to say that people who have legitimate concerns are less deserving to be at the parks or that everyone with a legitimate concern is a "troublemaker" of some kind, but people who are more comfortable with the risk level beta testing the new policies and procedures in the opening weeks is absolutely the best option right now. It will never be perfect, but the higher percentage of visitors who are accepting of the current risks and changes until the bugs are worked out the better.

WDW will be waiting for everyone else when they are personally comfortable visiting. It isn't going anywhere and will be ready for you when you are ready to come back. Probably in even better shape than at opening since the learning period will have already taken place!
 
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Another good thing about the limited attendance at the parks is that it may be that the people who are going are the kind of happy, positive people that you want to be around when at Disney. It may not make a difference now though because of the social distancing, but I know on previous trips it's more pleasant to walk through the parks or wait somewhere when there are people around you who are happy to be there and who stay positive. I've read comments on other sites from people who are complaining about the limitations or making other negative comments and vow not to go for some time to come. I really think it's going to make the whole atmosphere better for everyone who is going that they are not going to be there.

You do realize there will be some people there who are not on Disboards, don’t even know there won’t be fireworks, shows with live actors, typical parades and meet and greets, etc. Don’t know what the process will be for filling the buses. Don’t know about limited boat transportation. Not everyone who travels to Disney dives down into the details and does their due diligence.

You can bet there will be people whining there about this or that. Wait until you see what the people who don’t know everything about the limitations do. The CMs will be dealing with a lot.

There are plenty of happy positive people who just don’t think it’s safe to go right now. How rude.
 
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I have tried to keep up with the thread so I apologize if this has been addressed.

I know they updated the face covering rules (below) to say no gaiters now and that was discussed but is the part about 2 layers new? Or was the bolded always there?

Face coverings are required for all Guests (ages 2 and up) and Cast Members. Please bring your own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining or swimming.

All face coverings (whether disposable or reusable) must:
  • Be made with at least two layers of breathable material
  • Fully cover the nose and mouth and secure under the chin
  • Fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face
  • Be secured with ties or ear loops and allow the Guest to remain hands-free
At this time, based on guidance from health authorities, neck gaiters and open-chin triangle bandanas are not acceptable face coverings.

Costume masks are also not considered appropriate and are prohibited from being worn, in alignment with our existing rules.

The use of face coverings is not a substitute for physical distancing.
 
I have tried to keep up with the thread so I apologize if this has been addressed.

I know they updated the face covering rules (below) to say no gaiters now and that was discussed but is the part about 2 layers new? Or was the bolded always there?

Face coverings are required for all Guests (ages 2 and up) and Cast Members. Please bring your own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining or swimming.

All face coverings (whether disposable or reusable) must:
  • Be made with at least two layers of breathable material
  • Fully cover the nose and mouth and secure under the chin
  • Fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face
  • Be secured with ties or ear loops and allow the Guest to remain hands-free
At this time, based on guidance from health authorities, neck gaiters and open-chin triangle bandanas are not acceptable face coverings.

Costume masks are also not considered appropriate and are prohibited from being worn, in alignment with our existing rules.

The use of face coverings is not a substitute for physical distancing.
I don't remember seeing that before but I could be wrong.

Side note I saw on Carlye's instagram from yesterday that she was wearing THREE masks at one point. It looked like a surgical and two cloth covers. That seems like overkill but it gives me hope that I can definitely get through an entire park day in just a surgical and be totally fine in the heat!

* As an edit since this apparently caused something while I was away- not judging her mask choice here - she's in a situation for work that she likely wouldn't choose for leisure. Just pointing out that if she can make it all day (on a HOT day!) in 3, I (and most others) can definitely make it for a day with an afternoon break wearing one.
 
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I also discovered that my park reservations were still active after my old Poly stay was canceled and off my account. I'm still going to cancel them and rebook for my new reservation's dates but that's an ugly loophole/glitch I hope gets fixed.
Do you have an AP? Perhaps those park reservations are being counted as the three non-resort reservation days passholders can have.
 
Here’s the thing about the travel restriction nonsense, plenty of states don’t have one at all & it doesn’t seem to affect their numbers. Louisiana has never had any travel restrictions in place & our numbers came down when we implemented other rules. Ppl are most likely going to stay away from hotspots so there is no need for all that. Our numbers are climbing back up as things open up, but that still has nothing to do with travel restrictions.
 
I saved $1270 on boulder ridge villa! I feel they’re giving me something for free 😂
Yeah I'm looking at other rooms and thinking about making yet another switch... I mean I've never seen a CR room under $300 when I've looked in the past number of years, yet here we are.
You do realize there will be some people there who are not on Disboards, don’t even know there won’t be fireworks, shows with live actors, typical parades and meet and greets, etc. Don’t know what the process will be for filling the buses. Don’t know about limited boat transportation. Not everyone who travels to Disney dives down into the details and does their due diligence.

In a normal time yes, but goodness me there are multiple hurdles to jump through to get to the point of getting through the turnstiles. If somehow a person completed the park reservation and everything else to get there and not notice the multiple warnings and notices.... I just don't even.
 
I have tried to keep up with the thread so I apologize if this has been addressed.

I know they updated the face covering rules (below) to say no gaiters now and that was discussed but is the part about 2 layers new? Or was the bolded always there?

Face coverings are required for all Guests (ages 2 and up) and Cast Members. Please bring your own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining or swimming.

All face coverings (whether disposable or reusable) must:
  • Be made with at least two layers of breathable material
  • Fully cover the nose and mouth and secure under the chin
  • Fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face
  • Be secured with ties or ear loops and allow the Guest to remain hands-free
At this time, based on guidance from health authorities, neck gaiters and open-chin triangle bandanas are not acceptable face coverings.

Costume masks are also not considered appropriate and are prohibited from being worn, in alignment with our existing rules.

The use of face coverings is not a substitute for physical distancing.


I do not recall that being there previously. Also I am not suggesting to skirt rules AT ALL - but how would one begin to enforce this?

Are the disposable masks made with two layers?
 
I do not recall that being there previously. Also I am not suggesting to skirt rules AT ALL - but how would one begin to enforce this?

Are the disposable masks made with two layers?
Yes disposable masks are two layers . At least the ones I bought have two layers.
 
I do not recall that being there previously. Also I am not suggesting to skirt rules AT ALL - but how would one begin to enforce this?

Are the disposable masks made with two layers?
My back-up disposal masks I bought incase we can tolarate the handmade 2-layer cotton ones I've made are actually 3 - ply
 
In a normal time yes, but goodness me there are multiple hurdles to jump through to get to the point of getting through the turnstiles. If somehow a person completed the park reservation and everything else to get there and not notice the multiple warnings and notices.... I just don't even.

I understand. I don’t understand not paying attention to the details but it happens.

My point really is that there is no reason to believe that you’re only going to be surrounded by happy positive people just because the people who don’t think it’s safe to go aren’t there. Complainers are complainers. And just because you’re going during the pandemic doesn’t mean there won’t be guests who are negative, rude to cast members or complain about stuff.
 
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I have tried to keep up with the thread so I apologize if this has been addressed.

I know they updated the face covering rules (below) to say no gaiters now and that was discussed but is the part about 2 layers new? Or was the bolded always there?

Face coverings are required for all Guests (ages 2 and up) and Cast Members. Please bring your own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining or swimming.

All face coverings (whether disposable or reusable) must:
  • Be made with at least two layers of breathable material
  • Fully cover the nose and mouth and secure under the chin
  • Fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face
  • Be secured with ties or ear loops and allow the Guest to remain hands-free
At this time, based on guidance from health authorities, neck gaiters and open-chin triangle bandanas are not acceptable face coverings.

Costume masks are also not considered appropriate and are prohibited from being worn, in alignment with our existing rules.

The use of face coverings is not a substitute for physical distancing.

Every mask I have is at least two layers.
Even the chiffon ones. ;)

And unless they physically touch one's mask, that's almost impossible to enforce.
 
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