Face mask policy & children with autism

If you put a seam around the edge, how could anyone tell if there is a second layer? It seems like the # of plies is determined by the honor system unless they ask you to take it off?
If the mask is made of mesh (very popular with the anti mask crowd) or some other see-through material, it is clearly not made of at least two layers of material. Disney is trying to prevent guests from wearing transparent/non-opaque masks onto Disney property.
 
If the mask is made of mesh (very popular with the anti mask crowd) or some other see-through material, it is clearly not made of at least two layers of material. Disney is trying to prevent guests from wearing transparent/non-opaque masks onto Disney property.
oh, gotcha, thanks. It's not like Disney to make a rule that can't be enforced visually so I was confused but I see what you mean; I see those single ply ones made of something like a veil in Costco pretty often.
 
If the mask is made of mesh (very popular with the anti mask crowd) or some other see-through material, it is clearly not made of at least two layers of material. Disney is trying to prevent guests from wearing transparent/non-opaque masks onto Disney property.


Yeah, I actually ran across some knit/crochet patterns for 'masks'. At first I didn't get who the 'target audience was'. lol

Although I guess you could make one to wear over a disposable mask to make it 'look cuter'.
 
If the mask is made of mesh (very popular with the anti mask crowd) or some other see-through material, it is clearly not made of at least two layers of material. Disney is trying to prevent guests from wearing transparent/non-opaque masks onto Disney property.


Exactly. I work at a mall, and we have already had clowns who tried to wear really open mesh "masks". Some people have to try to get away with something.
 
Hi, please let me know how or where did you hear this info about Disney possibly making exceptions for people who are unable to wear masks for medical reasons.

Any information would be very helpful because I have been hopeful that some information such as this would come out so I really do appreciate your response and hope this is not just a rumor -fingers crossed
There are no exceptions for disability.
 


The NFL. Was trying a new high tech mesh face mask. That stop drop lets Don’t know how that went
 
Recent published data on 14 mask types - good variety of masks tested.

Not surprised on most of the data - surgical masks still outperformed most, and given the nature of the visits, would be our preferred modality when visiting the parks and rides. Highest protection while disposable too before reentry into hotel/vehicle.

An interesting note -- valved N95 despite the valve performs as well as the cotton masks.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
 

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Recent published data on 14 mask types - good variety of masks tested.

Not surprised on most of the data - surgical masks still outperformed most, and given the nature of the visits, would be our preferred modality when visiting the parks and rides. Highest protection while disposable too before reentry into hotel/vehicle.

An interesting note -- valved N95 despite the valve performs as well as the cotton masks.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
Was interesting, it is important to note that for most masks, they only tested one person (and, it appears, a different person for each mask). We know (and they say it) that there is likely large variation between people. This variation may explain some of the differences seen and/or the rankings of the mask may be different for different people. As the authors say: Again, we want to note that the mask tests performed here (one speaker for all masks and four speakers for selected masks) should serve only as a demonstration.
 
Recent published data on 14 mask types - good variety of masks tested.

Not surprised on most of the data - surgical masks still outperformed most, and given the nature of the visits, would be our preferred modality when visiting the parks and rides. Highest protection while disposable too before reentry into hotel/vehicle.

An interesting note -- valved N95 despite the valve performs as well as the cotton masks.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083

They lost my respect for their study with two points - they used a single cellphone camera to base their data, and there's no way a fleece covering over the mouth would make more droplets than what your mouth puts out uncovered. Where are the extra droplets coming from?
 
They lost my respect for their study with two points - they used a single cellphone camera to base their data, and there's no way a fleece covering over the mouth would make more droplets than what your mouth puts out uncovered. Where are the extra droplets coming from?

The researchers found that the neck gaiter — a sun-protection staple that was never designed or intended as a coronavirus-fighting measure — actually disperses the largest respiratory droplets into multiple smaller droplets, which stay airborne longer because large droplets sink faster. In other words, speaking through one of these masks seems to create a lighter, longer-lasting, virus-carrying army.


https://www.gearpatrol.com/outdoors/a33563091/face-mask-neck-gaiter-effectiveness-study/
 
They lost my respect for their study with two points - they used a single cellphone camera to base their data, and there's no way a fleece covering over the mouth would make more droplets than what your mouth puts out uncovered. Where are the extra droplets coming from?

It breaks the droplets up - so one droplet becomes many.
 
The researchers found that the neck gaiter — a sun-protection staple that was never designed or intended as a coronavirus-fighting measure — actually disperses the largest respiratory droplets into multiple smaller droplets, which stay airborne longer because large droplets sink faster. In other words, speaking through one of these masks seems to create a lighter, longer-lasting, virus-carrying army.


https://www.gearpatrol.com/outdoors/a33563091/face-mask-neck-gaiter-effectiveness-study/


It also states that it also depends on the material. So all they proved was the one type they tried didn't perform well.

I like Bill Nye and how he demonstrates which masks work better than others. If you can wear a mask and still easily blow out a candle, it isn't doing much to keep your droplets contained.
 
They lost my respect for their study with two points - they used a single cellphone camera to base their data, and there's no way a fleece covering over the mouth would make more droplets than what your mouth puts out uncovered. Where are the extra droplets coming from?

The reason that they demonstrated this proof of concept with a cellphone camera is actually twofold: First of all, most cellphones these days have (on average) 8 to 12 megapixel cameras standard, which is comparable to my Nikon digital camera at 10 megapixels. Cellphone cameras are overall high enough quality now to take the type of video that this experiment requires.

Next, the idea of using a cellphone is that old line that every photographer knows: The best camera in the world is the one you have with you at the time. The driving force (besides generally improved form factor/quality of cellphone cameras) is that they have created a methodology that can be used by even less wealthy countries/clinics/groups with a minimum of investment, scientific knowledge or pre-exisiting infrastructure.

I actually applaud the use of the most common and least expensive materials/items possible; the team that created the device you reference have tried to keep it to an all-in price of $200 (provided that at least one of the researchers has a cellphone that can shoot video).

It's a form of "open source" science!
 
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I am very sad fthat so many people lack compassion for those with disabilities that truly cannot wear a mask, such as children with autism/sensory issues or people with true breathing problems. Most people on these forums say they wear a mask "for others" and that wearing a mask shows you are a kind and compassionate person. No, you are not wearing a mask because you are selfless. You are actually expecting something in return which is that others will wear a mask for you, because you are fearful.
 
I am very sad fthat so many people lack compassion for those with disabilities that truly cannot wear a mask, such as children with autism/sensory issues or people with true breathing problems. Most people on these forums say they wear a mask "for others" and that wearing a mask shows you are a kind and compassionate person. No, you are not wearing a mask because you are selfless. You are actually expecting something in return which is that others will wear a mask for you, because you are fearful.

If you don't wear a mask you are expecting others to trust that you are not infected. And that is too much to ask.
 
I am very sad fthat so many people lack compassion for those with disabilities that truly cannot wear a mask, such as children with autism/sensory issues or people with true breathing problems.
Respectfully, I have breathing problems. I carry two different inhalers and wear a fan around my neck when I wear a mask. I've posted before, but will be happy to find and link again, the video of a physician wearing, ultimately, six masks - while his oxygen saturation level stayed at 98(%, out of 100). I've heard another physician claim that anyone who lives without supplemental oxygen can wear a mask. NO, everybody isn't me, but I have little to no sympathy for most adults.

Persons of any age, on the other hand, with sensory issues genuinely not being able to seat masks is entirely different.
 
Yes, to deny a 4 or 5 year old (or even older) child with autism the Disney experience because of their disability is very sad to me. Can't we be compassionate as a nation? Thankfully I am not in that situation but I truly feel for families that are. Should these children just remain at home? If schools are providing exceptions for these children then Disney should too IMO.
 

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