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[Clockwork]

And what if the vaccine works and we’re back to normal in June. Warner brothers easily loses Dune and Suicide Squad, 2 movies that would probably make a billion worldwide. The profit is also in hopes that people stay subscribed month to month, and people aren’t sharing accounts. They’re not profiting unless they acquire more subscribers in the next year than Netflix currently has

If the vaccine works there’s no guarantee the theaters come back, they don’t need more subscribers than Netflix, they own the content, the servers and the fiber/wire going into homes all they need is to not lose subscribers and this may be the way to do it. Dune may be a billion dollar franchise, but from the directors previous films that’s not a guarantee, Suicide Squad isn’t either, James Gunn is a known by comic purists and Disney fans but the majority of people don’t know who he is. I’m also pretty sure Warner’s is afraid that it may lose money due to the performance of the last Harley Quinn movie.

 

[Mit88]

If the vaccine works there’s no guarantee the theaters come back, they don’t need more subscribers than Netflix, they own the content, the servers and the fiber/wire going into homes all they need is to not lose subscribers and this may be the way to do it. Dune may be a billion dollar franchise, but from the directors previous films that’s not a guarantee, Suicide Squad isn’t either, James Gunn is a known by comic purists and Disney fans but the majority of people don’t know who he is. I’m also pretty sure Warner’s is afraid that it may lose money due to the performance of the last Harley Quinn movie.

How do you make a profit off a $15 a month subscription that doesn’t restrict multiple users. I have HBOMax and I’m sharing it with 5 people from 4 different states. And I’m sure I’m not the only one. These movies aren’t free to make or advertise whether they own them or not. The cost of their entire slate of 2021 movies is probably in the ballpark of $3B before marketing. Which means, and my math might be off, that they’d need around 200,000,000 new subscribers to break even. Now you probably cut that in half because there are some people that will still see the movie in theaters, but even 100,000,000 new subscribers isn’t exactly an easy task at hand

 

[The Pho]

Dune and Suicide Squad, 2 movies that would probably make a billion worldwide

I think that’s pretty optimistic. I’d be really surprised if Suicide Squad 2 outgrosses the Guardians of the Galaxy films, neither were all that close to a billion. Dune has real potential to be a major flop, I hope it does well, but a billion seems like a stretch there too.

 

[Mit88]

I think that’s pretty optimistic. I’d be really surprised if Suicide Squad 2 outgrosses the Guardians of the Galaxy films, neither were all that close to a billion. Dune has real potential to be a major flop, I hope it does well, but a billion seems like a stretch there too.

The first one made 750M WW and it’s regarded as one of the worst comic book movies ever made. Captain Marvel made over a Billion. Aladdin made over a Billion. Not comparing them, but 1B WW isn’t (at least in 2019) as mythical as it was even 5 years ago.

 

[Clockwork]

How do you make a profit off a $15 a month subscription that doesn’t restrict multiple users. I have HBOMax and I’m sharing it with 5 people from 4 different states. And I’m sure I’m not the only one. These movies aren’t free to make or advertise whether they own them or not. The cost of their entire slate of 2021 movies is probably in the ballpark of $3B before marketing. Which means, and my math might be off, that they’d need around 200,000,000 new subscribers to break even. Now you probably cut that in half because there are some people that will still see the movie in theaters, but even 100,000,000 new subscribers isn’t exactly an easy task at hand

Look at the big picture without having the films out they lose merchandising, they lose residual rights and they also lose dvd/blu ray and PPV money. How many films have lost money in the theater and turned a profit thru other means. I’d also put money on it they start to crack down on stream sharing.

 

[Mit88]

Look at the big picture without having the films out the lose merchandising, they lose residual rights and they also lose dvd/blu ray and PPV money. How many films have lost money in the theater and turned a profit thru other means. I’d also put money on it they start to crack down on stream sharing.

Typically it’s lower budget movies that gain a home audience years later that turn a profit on home video, cult following movies. If a movie like WW84 underperformed in theaters, it’s very unlikely that you’d see it eventually turn a profit because of home video sales.

Companies have claimed for years that they were going to crack down on stream sharing. Disney made that threat before Disney+ came out and realized they couldn’t do it.

 

[RamblingRabbit]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

 

[The Pho]

The first one made 750M WW and it’s regarded as one of the worst comic book movies ever made. Captain Marvel made over a Billion. Aladdin made over a Billion. Not comparing them, but 1B WW isn’t (at least in 2019) as mythical as it was even 5 years ago.

It’s certainly possible, I just don’t expect it to get there.

 

[Clockwork]

Typically it’s lower budget movies that gain a home audience years later that turn a profit on home video, cult following movies. If a movie like WW84 underperformed in theaters, it’s very unlikely that you’d see it eventually turn a profit because of home video sales.

Companies have claimed for years that they were going to crack down on stream sharing. Disney made that threat before Disney+ came out and realized they couldn’t do it.

True but we are in unprecedented territory, theaters as of now are empty and most are only open on weekends, companies are trying to think outside the box, how is WW84 going to turn profit in theaters, when they aren’t doing full weekly viewing and also people aren’t going.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

well, right now if there are people maskless in the photo they are not available at all, so this is way better than that option

 

[Mit88]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

They weren’t getting maskless photos anyway. This is good news for the people that were mad that other people on their ride vehicle not wearing their mask were the reason they weren’t getting pictures

 

[Farro]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

Is this because other people aren't getting photos?

because otherwise it seems kind of silly for them to do this, it's better not to give them the picture at all.

 

[Mit88]

Is this because other people aren't getting photos?

because otherwise it seems kind of silly for them to do this, it's better not to give them the picture at all.

It’s mostly for the people that are abiding to the rules that are being punished with no photo because other people aren’t listening to the rules

 

[Farro]

It’s mostly for the people that are abiding to the rules that are being punished with no photo because other people aren’t listening to the rules

Yes, I wasn't thinking about that.

I'm so lost on how things work, I couldn't think of rides where people would be sharing vehicles, but duh, ToT, Splash, Mine Train...I could go on...

 

[Spridell]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

Sorry but I agree with some of the responses on Twitter.

This one is a complete waste.

This money could of been better used elsewhere

 

[RamblingRabbit]

It’s mostly for the people that are abiding to the rules that are being punished with no photo because other people aren’t listening to the rules

Most likely this, but it makes my heart happy knowing that people are breaking the rules to try for a maskless photo then getting this to spite them.

 

[gottalovepluto]

they are still struggling to keep guests at Epcot until closing, it's been the problem since reopening

I’m really interested to see if park hopping changes that come 1/1

 

[andyman8]

Speaking of theaters Warner’s just announced they are streaming all their films for the next year day of release in theaters, i wonder if Disney will follow.

I cannot overstate what an earthquake this is being perceived as in the media industry at the moment.

 

[fatmanatee]

It’s mostly for the people that are abiding to the rules that are being punished with no photo because other people aren’t listening to the rules

Wait, they don't get a photo if *other* people aren't wearing masks? I figured this was a subtle message for people breaking the rules, basically that if you take your mask off for the ride photo we'll put one on for you so you might as well keep it on.

 

[Mit88]

I cannot overstate what an earthquake this is being perceived as in the media industry at the moment.

The fans of streaming are in a confined bubble and don’t see the reaction and feelings of a large majority of people that want the theatrical experience saved.

We kick and scream about Chapek and the layoffs. Lose the theater industry and let’s talk about the amount of layoffs there are.