Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[LSUmiss]

I just want the ppl mover back!

 

[New Mouse]

You answered your question. The parks are already filled- Cheapek doesn’t need to pay to operate Rat right now.

So close something else and open this.

 

[New Mouse]

Not really the case. They have Velocicoaster coming, but after that they have nothing until Epic Universe which may be a thing by 2025. Disney has GOTG, Tron and Rat in the works. They opened Pandora, Toy Story Land, Galaxy's Edge and MMRR somewhat recently. Universals last few big additions were Hagrids (good), Fast and the Furious (terrible), Jimmy Fallon (terrible) and Kong (meh). It's not like Universal is hitting home run after home run.

Universal builds fast enough where they could actually start now and beat out Tron if they wanted to. I do agree the quality has been hit and miss similar to disney.

 

[Eric Smith]

Universal builds fast enough where they could actually start now and beat out Tron if they wanted to. I do agree the quality has been hit and miss similar to disney.

Building a whole theme park is different from building a ride. It's going to take a lot of time to get it all done.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Would Disney open tron 6-12 months before epic universe is slated to open? Or wait like we’re seeing with Remi to pick a more optimal date?

what rides do they have started in 22/23/24 to compete with epic universe? Either hypothetical or actual?

GOTG would need to open in 2022 and tron late 2023 with EU slated for Jan 2025. If tron got pushed into 2024, they’d likely do the October 1 opening to give it wow factor compared to EU. (Less than 6 months between tron and EU is still blowing my mind at the possibilities)

There is nothing planned (that is known of) post Guardians and Tron that is big and is set so that is one big reason I think they are delaying those - spread out the new things rather than open them all in fall 2021 (which they could have if they stopped up construction) and then nothing for 3 years.

I could still see them both opening withing the 18 month 50th celebration so they can say that they all (along with Rat, Harmonius, etc) opened "as part of" the 50th celebration. So maybe Guardians by Oct 2022 for EPCOT's 49th birthday and the ln Tron in Q1 2023.

Things discussed that should still happen as well: retheme of Splash to PatF and the redo/refurb of Spaceship Earth. Hopefully by mid 2023 things are looking more back to normal and Disney is reinvest in the parks for the next round of enhancements (probably something at Animal Kingdom)

 

[Eric Smith]

There is nothing planned (that is known of) post Guardians and Tron that is big and is set so that is one big reason I think they are delaying those - spread out the new things rather than open them all in fall 2021 (which they could have if they stopped up construction) and then nothing for 3 years.

I could still see them both opening withing the 18 month 50th celebration so they can say that they all (along with Rat, Harmonius, etc) opened "as part of" the 50th celebration. So maybe Guardians by Oct 2022 for EPCOT's 49th birthday and the ln Tron in Q1 2023.

Things discussed that should still happen as well: retheme of Splash to PatF and the redo/refurb of Spaceship Earth. Hopefully by mid 2023 things are looking more back to normal and Disney is reinvest in the parks for the next round of enhancements (probably something at Animal Kingdom)

I think Dinoland USA is probably next up for a refurb/retheme. They need to put in something to replace Primeval Whirl.

 

[Missingmypooh]

If they did refurbs correctly, those could be beneficial in the grand scheme of things with attendance and the bottom line.
splash to Tiana
Spaceship earth refurb
Dinoland to ?
Three cabeloros (spelled that wrong!) to coco
Jungle cruise (I think this is pretty minor tho?)

 

[Eric Smith]

If they did refurbs correctly, those could be beneficial in the grand scheme of things with attendance and the bottom line.
splash to Tiana
Spaceship earth refurb
Dinoland to ?
Three cabeloros (spelled that wrong!) to coco
Jungle cruise (I think this is pretty minor tho?)

I agree. I think they can keep Dinoland as the same high level idea, they just need to reimagine the area.
Taking three caballeros to Coco could be a challenge as I don't know how they're going to have the space for a queue with actual demand (similar to Frozen) in the pavilion as it currently stands.
What they're shown for jungle cruise would be a really minor change. I think it would be similar to putting Redd in to Pirates.

 

[gottalovepluto]

I just want the ppl mover back!

Let’s just call 10/1/21 reopening right now on that sucker and save you the heartbreak of watching it get walked there month by month.

 

[Duck143]

I think it's a mistake waiting that long. Look how long it took to get a working system for ROTR. So, Remi opens 10/1....good luck with that! You would think they would want to start running it and working out the kinks well before the most packed day ever.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

I think it's a mistake waiting that long. Look how long it took to get a working system for ROTR. So, Remi opens 10/1....good luck with that! You would think they would want to start running it and working out the kinks well before the most packed day ever.

Remy is already a proven ride system, it won’t have the issues that Rise did. And I’m sure they will have soft openings well in advance.

 

[Eric Smith]

I think it's a mistake waiting that long. Look how long it took to get a working system for ROTR. So, Remi opens 10/1....good luck with that! You would think they would want to start running it and working out the kinks well before the most packed day ever.

Remy will be fine. It's a carbon copy of the ride from Disneyland Paris. ROTR was a new ride which is why there are so many issues. Runaway Railway doesn't have any issues and it was a totally new ride.

 

[gottalovepluto]

I think it's a mistake waiting that long. Look how long it took to get a working system for ROTR. So, Remi opens 10/1....good luck with that! You would think they would want to start running it and working out the kinks well before the most packed day ever.

You’re thinking as if Corporate care if it breaks down or its line system croaks on Day 1. They don’t. It *should* work and if it doesn’t they will just give people 1 recovery FP to use elsewhere in EP.

 

[tink2424]

You had COVID for six weeks? Or you had an antibody test? I have never heard of somebody having COVID active to test positive longer than two weeks....wait I wanted to correct that because there are a small group that are testing positive months later and having periodic relapses with symptoms and it’s one of those unique things they are trying to figure out like the people that never regain their sense of taste or smell. My point was basically that the lawsuit people can’t prove they got it on the cruise.

Most people will actually test positive for months which is why the CDC ended up changing their criteria because after 10 days you aren't infectious anymore even with symptoms. And yes, I tested positive with the PCR test 5 weeks after my first symptoms and later ended up doing an antibody test about 4 months out. So it isn't just those with the periodic relapses it is most people that can have the virus in their system but it basically isn't doing anything.

EDIT - I didn't actually have COVID for 6 weeks I had a mild case that I managed at home for about 3 weeks but I did have a lingering cough so I went to urgent care at the end of April and they tested me then. Turned out I developed pneumonia and I had to have another round of antibiotics in July and steroids in June. So not really long COVID I developed a secondary infection. Fun times! Add on to that that whenever I was in public I had to try hard not to cough since everyone was so on edge... Luckily I am just fine though and no lingering issues so I consider myself very lucky.

 

[hertamaniac]

Cruise restart pushed further back as 7 major lines cancel more sailings

"Perhaps the most notable announcement came from Royal Caribbean, the world’s largest cruise line, which extended its year-long halt to nearly all departures through early June. In doing so, Royal Caribbean is joining such cruise brands as Norwegian Cruise Line and Carnival Cruise Line in giving up on the idea of a widespread May restart."

 

[mi*vida*loca]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1369667109916180481

 

[hereforthechurros]

Disney making headlines with low to no availability in March. No MK availability until April 10th according to this article. Yet I haven't seen much if anything in the way of ramped up dining or offerings.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/disney-world-parks-spring-ticket-reservations/index.html

 

[preemiemama]

Disney making headlines with low to no availability in March. No MK availability until April 10th according to this article. Yet I haven't seen much if anything in the way of ramped up dining or offerings.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/disney-world-parks-spring-ticket-reservations/index.html

With all the news yesterday making it look like they're not pushing to be "fully open" until October 1st, I'm a little apprehensive about my July trip. I thought they'd be opening more as people are becoming more vaccinated- and I thought dining would be one of the first areas to expand.

 

[Makmak]

Most people will actually test positive for months which is why the CDC ended up changing their criteria because after 10 days you aren't infectious anymore even with symptoms. And yes, I tested positive with the PCR test 5 weeks after my first symptoms and later ended up doing an antibody test about 4 months out. So it isn't just those with the periodic relapses it is most people that can have the virus in their system but it basically isn't doing anything.

EDIT - I didn't actually have COVID for 6 weeks I had a mild case that I managed at home for about 3 weeks but I did have a lingering cough so I went to urgent care at the end of April and they tested me then. Turned out I developed pneumonia and I had to have another round of antibiotics in July and steroids in June. So not really long COVID I developed a secondary infection. Fun times! Add on to that that whenever I was in public I had to try hard not to cough since everyone was so on edge... Luckily I am just fine though and no lingering issues so I consider myself very lucky.

I’m so glad your case was mild. It is indeed an odd virus. 30-40% will test positive at 3 weeks. But based on what I hear on this board perhaps those stats will/are changing? I wonder if it’s going to lie dormant in some people like herpes viruses do? That’s a scary thought. In any event it will be difficult for the lawyers to prove Disney is at fault. I do wonder if this will impact the sailing decisions though.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

With all the news yesterday making it look like they're not pushing to be "fully open" until October 1st, I'm a little apprehensive about my July trip. I thought they'd be opening more as people are becoming more vaccinated- and I thought dining would be one of the first areas to expand.

I'm feeling the same way about our July trip too. I thought for sure we'd at least see later hours, all the dining and shopping back, etc. But we want to go so bad I just don't know if I can wait.