Marathon Weekend 2022

I'm not a fan of the shirts we get now. Up until MW 2011 they were really nice. I wore my Inaugural W&D shirt for a run this weekend and it fit and felt excellent. My 2018 W&D shirts are terrible, both the fit and the fabric.

I just really want some long sleeve shirts with thumb holes. As a tall, long-limbed guy, finding clothes that fit right is a chore and shirt sleeves that are too short are a huge pet peeve. Thumb holes at least keep the sleeves in place.
 
The Wall: I've never hit the wall physically in any of my marathons, but by mile 17-18ish I've had enough with people and noise and overstimulation and long to dart off into the trees to escape. I thought it was just WWOS, but 2020 was more of the same, even minus WWOS. I'm good again by around mile 20, lol!

Which brings me to SAFD: is there a sweary character?! Because around mile 17-18 I need someone who can dish and take a full verbal array of expletives. I'm thinking maybe an unfiltered Mushu. :rotfl:
 
I just really want some long sleeve shirts with thumb holes. As a tall, long-limbed guy, finding clothes that fit right is a chore and shirt sleeves that are too short are a huge pet peeve. Thumb holes at least keep the sleeves in place.
But if the shirt sleeves are not long enough you will never get the hole to your thumb. I too suffer from sleeves to short.
 
The Wall: I've never hit the wall physically in any of my marathons, but by mile 17-18ish I've had enough with people and noise and overstimulation and long to dart off into the trees to escape. I thought it was just WWOS, but 2020 was more of the same, even minus WWOS. I'm good again by around mile 20, lol!

Which brings me to SAFD: is there a sweary character?! Because around mile 17-18 I need someone who can dish and take a full verbal array of expletives. I'm thinking maybe an unfiltered Mushu. :rotfl:
I think Anger from Inside Out would be your best bet as a running partner.
 
Long sleeve shirt + scissors = thumb holes

Those shirts are paper thin. One thumb hole will turn into one big enough for my first quickly

But if the shirt sleeves are not long enough you will never get the hole to your thumb. I too suffer from sleeves to short.

They start off long enough and can stretch a bit, but after a couple washes it seems like the sleeves shrink.
 
I don't understand the hate. It seems like there is no downside. You pay $15 per day and don't have to wait in line. I would gladly do that, especially in bad weather.

I'm going to start with the disclaimer that I haven't decided what my opinion on this is, so I'm not saying I'm for or against it, just saying some of the things that initially made me unhappy and that I've seen people saying online.
One thing that really wasn't my favorite is that they're now charging $15 for something that used to be free. I've been using FP+ since 2013 (and occasionally used legacy FP before that) and I liked that it was included, but if I had been asked back then if I was willing to pay for the service, the answer would have been no. Now? I don't know.
And $15 (per person) is a lot for some people, especially families.. If you're a family that saves up for years to take a 20 person extended family trip, this is an extra $300 per day. On a 5 day trip, that's $1500. For many people, that's not an option.

... which isn't to say that it may not be worth it. It's just that "oh its a great service for $15" is oversimplifying the issue for many people.
 
I'm going to start with the disclaimer that I haven't decided what my opinion on this is, so I'm not saying I'm for or against it, just saying some of the things that initially made me unhappy and that I've seen people saying online.
One thing that really wasn't my favorite is that they're now charging $15 for something that used to be free. I've been using FP+ since 2013 (and occasionally used legacy FP before that) and I liked that it was included, but if I had been asked back then if I was willing to pay for the service, the answer would have been no. Now? I don't know.
And $15 (per person) is a lot for some people, especially families.. If you're a family that saves up for years to take a 20 person extended family trip, this is an extra $300 per day. On a 5 day trip, that's $1500. For many people, that's not an option.

... which isn't to say that it may not be worth it. It's just that "oh its a great service for $15" is oversimplifying the issue for many people.
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it takes nothing away from people who do not pay up. You are just paying $15 to not have to physically be in line. If you want to still wait in line and save the cash, you can. Now if the physical line jumps up to 3 hours a ride, that is the time to bring the pitch forks out.
 
I don't understand the hate. It seems like there is no downside. You pay $15 per day and don't have to wait in line. I would gladly do that, especially in bad weather.
$15 per day per person for something not as good as fastpass+ which was free? Then add in an extra cost PER RIDE on tier one attractions? Disney just gouged a typical family of 4 who goes for a week and does, say two tier 1 attractions per day ~ an extra $1000 or so depending how much they get up charged to ride Space Mountain.
 
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it takes nothing away from people who do not pay up. You are just paying $15 to not have to physically be in line. If you want to still wait in line and save the cash, you can. Now if the physical line jumps up to 3 hours a ride, that is the time to bring the pitch forks out.

It's not taking away anything that is currently available, true. But prior to the COVID shutdowns, there was FastPass (at DL)/FastPass+ (at WDW) included in the price of your ticket, and this is replacing that. So for someone like me that hasn't been since before COVID, I am losing access to something that was included in my ticket last time I visited. But true, right now your only option is line and that will still exist.
 
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it takes nothing away from people who do not pay up. You are just paying $15 to not have to physically be in line. If you want to still wait in line and save the cash, you can. Now if the physical line jumps up to 3 hours a ride, that is the time to bring the pitch forks out.
Yes, you are missing that you were able to get fastpass at no charge with your admission. Now you need to “pay up” or go wait in a standby line.

ETA - I think you are comparing it to today’s post Covid standby only. That’s apples and oranges. Post Covid had reduced park capacity and nobody cutting the line with a lightning queue or fastpass. All standby is a much different animal.
 
Yes, you are missing that you were able to get fastpass at no charge with your admission. Now you need to “pay up” or go wait in a standby line.
I bet there wouldn't have been this much hate if Disney would have announced Genie + for free. Then in 6 months announced a $15 increase in all tickets. Because it is ala cart people are going to flip their lid. If anything this can help keep prices down for people who are really on a shoestring budget.
 
I bet there wouldn't have been this much hate if Disney would have announced Genie + for free. Then in 6 months announced a $15 increase in all tickets. Because it is ala cart people are going to flip their lid. If anything this can help keep prices down for people who are really on a shoestring budget.
Right. Because Disney has done a great job holding ticket prices down historically over the years:

Historical Walt Disney World Ticket Price Increases
 
I love the smell of sarcasm in the morning......well, any time of day for sure. But before the admins get cross, let's moderate our discussion of the latest Disney revenue enhancement scheme and make it relevant to MW22. There's a thread on the Theme Park forum that's already 600 posts strong on this change.

That said, this is giving me cause to re-think my MW strategy. I haven't bought tickets yet, and am not sure what I want to do.
 

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