You must be swift as the coursing river (as long as it's the Lazy River) - comments welcome

My dogs have been adaptable to new people and other dogs at various levels, but working in animal welfare we do safety training on this stuff all the time.

The one universal thing we learn is every dog is friendly until they aren't, and every dog is reactive until they aren't. Very few dogs have true off-leash recall, and the risks far outweigh any benefit your dog gets from off-leash time in an uncontrolled environment.

The single best deterrent for an unwanted dog encounter or breaking up a fight is NOISE. Yelling or clapping work in some cases, but a small air horn or personal alarm is the best thing you can carry as it doesn't require proximity to an animal and will immediately take any dog's focus away from whatever it is on long enough to move away or pull dogs apart.
 
January 2 - 7, 2023
Marathon training week 16 | 1 day‼️until WDW Marathon

In which we reach the final countdown

Monday
Planned: rest
Completed: rest


Another rest day, and then I was back on schedule. I did a little bit of easy yoga.

Tuesday
Planned: 10 min easy + drills and strides + 5 x 1 min @ MAS (7:09)/2 min easy + 10 min easy
Completed: 10 min easy + drills and strides + 5 x 1 min @ MAS/2 min easy + 10 min easy
Interval splits: 7:00, 6:40, 6:36, 6:53, 7:09
Total: 44:50, 4.61 miles, 161 bpm


I still suck at pacing. At least I got it right on the last one!

Plus: lower body strength

Still using dumbbells but keeping the weights lighter.

Wednesday
Planned: 40 min easy
Completed: 43:51 easy (10:57)
Total: 4 miles, 149 bpm


Ah, humidity. Sorry to everyone arriving from cooler weather. At least it was only this warm and humid for the 5K?

Thursday
Planned: 35 min easy
Completed: 35:24 easy (10:53)
Total: 3.25 miles, 143 bpm


There's that nice energized feeling. I had to consciously slow down a few times.

Plus: upper body strength + core

I did do the dumbbell versions, but again with lighter weights.

Friday
Planned: 25 min easy + 10 min @ LTP (8:14)
Completed: 26:27 easy (10:40) + 10:45 @ 8:08 + 5:07 easy (10:31)
Total: 42:15, 4.27 miles


I decided this run needed a short cooldown at the end. And my watch didn't record any HR data from the LTP portion 🙄

Then I went to the expo to pick up my bib and shirt! I bought a few generic rD items but decided the marathon jacket was not worth $95 😅 I wore my Rise and Run tank, and guess who noticed it and said hi? Brittany Charboneau!!! She's the woman who won all four races, in costume, last year, and she's been on the podcast a few times now. She's here just to cheer this year, and she was super nice and I'm mad at myself for not getting a picture with her.

After that we stopped by Disney Springs for lunch and browsed some shops (nothing exciting) before heading to Hurricane Hanna's for the meetup. It was fun to meet some of you actual humans behind the screen! I'm still very impressed with all of you who are doing Dopey and still managing to be functional humans. And glad the meetup was yesterday rather than today because today I am trying to focus on relaxing. Hope to see some of you again at the race tomorrow!

Saturday
Planned: 20 min easy + drills and strides
Completed: 20 min easy + drills and strides
Total: 25:44, 2.42 miles


Zero HR data 😒 At one point at the end of one of the strides, though, my pace read 4:50. So I thought, "Hey, if I flat-out sprinted, I could run at Eliud Kipchoge's marathon pace! For about 10 seconds." 😂 Seriously, how does he do that?

Total
Mileage: 18.67 miles
Time: 4h 12m


Not including the marathon, obviously!

Coming up
THE MARATHON


ID: GIF from Les Mis with the end of One Day More which has been stuck in my head today for some reason that is definitely not incredibly easy to explain. Lol.
 
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Race recap | WDW Marathon
January 8, 2023

In which I finally run a marathon

Buckle up, folks, it's gonna be a long one! 😂 In my defense, it was a long race.

Far too early in the morning
I went to bed around 7:30 on Saturday but didn't fall asleep until sometime after 9. Then I kept waking up in the throughout the night and finally stayed awake at 1:30, half an hour before my alarm went off at 2. Yay. My poor pup was so confused that I was getting up in the middle of the night and leaving him! No way am I doing this to myself four days in a row; one day was bad enough.

My dad and I left a little before 2:30 and he dropped me off at Epcot just before 3. I had a muffin and some coffee in the car and then grabbed another coffee once I got to the pre-race milling-around area. I walked around a bit but didn't feel like waiting in the character lines. Eventually I found the DIS sign and got to hang out with everyone there for a while before we all broke off to head for the corrals.

The walk to the corrals was indeed quite long. I stopped at the port-a-potties and ended up in the middle of A, just behind where they cut the corral for the second wave. I could have hopped the ribbon - plenty of people did - but I was fine being not at the front. It was nice that they had clothing bins set up on the sides - I was able to dump my sweatpants and sweatshirt just before the race without just throwing them on the ground. I started with just my jacket and gloves to toss later.

Every mile is magic?
My wave set off at 5:03. Since I hadn't run more than 18 miles before, I wanted to take it easy, especially at the beginning. So I found a pace that felt comfortable and then slowed down, at least until I got to MK. I slowed to take pictures of all the mile markers, and after I ended up with water up my nose trying to drink from a cup while running, walked through the water stations.

The first few miles were exciting just because the race was starting. I looped back around to the start line just after the balloon ladies crossed, which they announced from the stage. Then came the highway to MK. That part was not very exciting but still not bad because it was still pretty early in the race and it was still dark. I ditched my improvised jacket and gloves sometime in there.

Running through MK was awesome. I think I stopped for all the characters there, took my favorite mile marker photo at mile 10 (although why they put a stormtrooper there I don't quite understand). Even at 6:30 in the morning, there were enthusiastic crowds outside and on Main Street. I forget most of the signs I saw, but there were some good ones.

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ID: The mile 10 marker (stormtrooper) with Main Street and the castle in the background and runners passing by.

The sun was coming up as I left MK, but somehow it was getting colder. I regretted tossing my gloves. I kept shaking out my hands to try to warm them up. This was the first really boring part - I think we had about six miles just on the highway. And as the sun started coming up, it got worse because a lot of the time the sun was directly in my eyes. Mile after mile into the sun, ugh. The visor didn't even help because the sun was so close to the horizon. I spent that time mostly staring at the ground five feet in front of me because it was the only thing I could see without being blinded.

I was very happy to finally get to DAK, which was a lot of fun. Lots of pics from there, and it was interesting to be there while the park was actually open not just for spectators. I wonder how many non-runners were very confused yesterday!

Then the trek out of DAK to DHS was the worst. It was exciting to hit mile 18, which was my previous longest run. However, the sun was still in my eyes for much of that portion, and when we got to the u-turn to get into the BB parking lot loop, I finally yelled out, "This mile is not magic, Disney!" I felt okay physically, but mentally I was frustrated with the interminable tedium of the highway and not being able to see where I was going. The only good part about this is that the miles were hitting the 20s and I was not running into any kind of wall or other issues, which was a pleasant surprise.

As soon as we got to the ramp to DHS, the experience became magical again. They were playing Go the Distance right when I got there, which was perfect and got me a little emotional, and then I got chocolate! Happy times. Our DHS time was so short, though - it felt like we were there for barely a second before we headed out again.

Fortunately we were pretty much done with the highway miles at that point. It was great to pass all the people cheering at the boardwalk, and I was kind of surprised to still feel like I had a reasonable amount of energy even at mile 23. So I decided my last 5K should be the fastest 5K. And on the mental side I had been running so long I crossed into a weird state of excited delirium. At that point I didn't see anyone stopping for characters, but I went, "Genie!" like a little kid and ran over.

Those last few miles might actually have been the most fun, in a strange and slightly psychotic way. I really enjoyed the Disney/pop 90s mix in Epcot. Wannabe came on and I started "singing" along (more like yelling, but whatever) which probably the people I was passing thought was pretty weird. But as they did the bridge - "Well here's the story from A to Z..." I ran by someone who was also singing along and we had a magical moment of camaraderie. So yeah, coming back through Epcot was a lot of fun.

When I got to the mile 26 marker, I thought about skipping the picture, but I'd committed to it for 25 markers and stopping there seemed a little ridiculous. So I took a selfie and then headed past the gospel choir and to the finish! I got a little choked up at the end there. If I'd had any moisture remaining in my body that wasn't absolutely essential to my survival there probably would have been tears, but I didn't so there weren't. The finishing chute was long but I eventually got my medal, drinks, and box of snacks.

Officially I finished in 4 hours, 37 minutes, and 4 seconds, which I am quite happy with. Unofficially, Apple Fitness has me running 26.46 miles in 4:20:31, and Strava has me doing 26.59 miles in 4:19:23. (Likely Strava is the most accurate in terms of actual moving time and Apple is the most accurate - though that's not saying much - for the distance covered.) Last three miles: 8:55, 8:19, 8:21. And more importantly, as you might be able to tell from those last splits, I finished feeling a lot better than I expected - no wall, no serious pain, nothing that I had been worried about running 8+ miles more than I ever had before. I'll do a separate post at some point with my thoughts about the training plan I used, but if nothing else I can definitely say that it got me through my first marathon in good shape!

The magical world of Disney
I did well with characters! I stopped for:
  • Sebastian
  • Meeko
  • Tigger/Eeyore
  • Beast
  • Pluto
  • Captain Jack Sparrow
  • Mushu
  • Rafiki
  • Timon
  • Genie
  • Abu
I also stopped for pics in front of the castle, tree of life, and Everest. Of course, the only one I haven't gotten yet is Mushu!! I keep refreshing my photos to see if it comes up. Hopefully it will soon or I will be writing to Disney to say that I'm missing my most important character stop! 🙈

I don't know how it was for later corrals, but I didn't have to wait more than a couple of minutes for anyone, and during the second half of the race I could pretty much just walk right up. There were a couple from the list that I would have liked to get but weren't out when I passed, and I'm a little sad that I didn't see Pain and Panic until after I'd already gone by, but overall the photos I got were great - as long as my Mushu pic comes in!

And well, in summary
Running through the parks was awesome, although it felt like we were only in DHS for about 2 seconds. The spectators and CMs there were great, and I loved having all the characters along the course.

On the other hand, the highway miles were kind of miserable, especially running into the sun. Then there was that very non-magical u-turn leading into the BB parking lot loop. Why???

I don't know if I would do another Disney marathon just because of those long stretches with absolutely nothing, but I'll definitely do another marathon. I was really pleased with how good (I mean, relatively speaking) I felt at the end, and even today I'm a little sore but nothing too serious. I clearly have a lot of room for improvement - I think I could cut 15-20 minutes off of my time just using what I learned from this experience, with no improvement in my fitness at all. So obviously I have to do that now to see what I'm actually capable of 😂

But wait, there's more!
After the race I found my mom and finished my Powerade, water, banana, and the yogurt smoothie she brought for me. I did a little stretching and then felt ready to head to the bathroom to clean up and change. Then we headed into the park and spent a few hours doing a couple of rides, drinks, and snacks. The margarita at La Cava Del Tequila was great, and so was the pretzel in Germany.

I was feeling okay, if slow, for a couple of hours, although my body was having a minor post-race meltdown and flipping all the switches to figure out what went wrong that had resulted in us waking up in the middle of the night and then spending so many hours running, and how to fix it. "Are we cold? Hot? Hungry? Thirsty? Have to pee? All of the above at once???" I was mostly functional, though. Still, after a couple of hours in the park, I was so tired I couldn't think anymore, so I decided it was time to go home.

Today I feel decent, all things considered. I was a little stiff this morning but loosened up quickly enough walking my dog. I could probably even run if I had to, although the idea kind of makes me laugh. I'll get back to it in a week or two. Overall I'm happy I did it and excited to apply what I learned to the next marathon.

Speaking of what I learned
For the benefit of my future self, but hopefully also helpful for other people reading this, here is a somewhat random assortment of things I want to consider for next time.
  • I think my outfit was too complicated for me, at least for a full marathon. I just had a skater skirt with tight shorts underneath, but it turns out tight shorts and a skirt are hard to deal with at bathroom breaks when they're all sweaty. Next time I will just wear normal running shorts and probably shave several minutes off my time from that alone.
  • On a related note, I think if I'm going to be waiting around for several hours between waking up and actually running, I should eat something more substantial. Then I wouldn't need to pee as often.
  • I need to work on my posture. All these pictures have me with my shoulders hunched over! So now I've got to figure out how to pull my shoulders back when I'm running (and probably just in general). That's going to be my running form project for this year - last year I successfully improved my cadence, so now I have a new focus.
  • I will have to come up with a better way to track my fueling during the race, because I completely lost track of what I was doing by the time I got about halfway through. After that I just kind of had a gel or a banana whenever it seemed like a good time for it. Fortunately, it worked out okay this time, but I don't think this is a good long-term strategy. Maybe I can start a new lap/segment whenever I fuel so my watch will show how long it's been since the last time.
  • I'm also somehow really bad at posing for photos! 😅 I never look like I think I do. I feel like I should just keep things simple and not try to be clever.
  • I was okay just using on-course hydration, but if I were going for time I would want to bring my own so I wouldn't have to stop and walk at all the water stations.
  • I truly had no idea when to get there, so I ended up being really early. I would have been fine arriving at 3:45/4 rather than 3, grabbing coffee and saying hi to the other DISers, and heading straight to the corrals. I'm thinking about possibly the Princess HM next year, so that's definitely good to remember.
Okay, I'm actually done now! If anyone made it through all of that text, I'm very impressed. Great job to all the MW runners!
 
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Please tell me if you figure out the magical exercise to nit haunch the shoulders when tired. It used to be the entire race for me but got a little better. however any of my pics once tired I am super hunched over. would love tips or exercises that might help.
 
Please tell me if you figure out the magical exercise to nit haunch the shoulders when tired. It used to be the entire race for me but got a little better. however any of my pics once tired I am super hunched over. would love tips or exercises that might help.
I will post here if I find some good ones! Even my MK photos have my shoulders hunched...so yeah, I need to fix that 🙈
 
Training plan in review
Matt Fitzgerald's Run Like a Pro level 1 marathon plan


It has been 3️⃣ days since my last run (aka the marathon), work is pretty quiet, and I'm bored. I'm no longer sore and I'm itching to run again, but the consensus from the internet seems to be that it's better to wait at least a few days and preferably a week before getting back to running after a marathon so your body can recover. So here we are, not running but still thinking about running. Seems like a good time to look back at my training plan.

When I was deciding on a marathon training plan, I looked at a whole bunch of different options before settling on this one. After doing the Higdon Novice 2 HM plan, I wanted something with (1) more days of running, (2) more variety in runs, and (3) speed workouts that had time intervals rather than distance. This plan had all of those things, so despite a couple of concerns (mostly whether I'd be able to finish a marathon after a max distance of 18 miles in the plan; spoiler alert, it was fine), I went with it.

I stuck to the plan (in the sense that I didn't add a bunch of miles like I did for the Higdon plan) and completed every run I had scheduled, though I did shift the days around some weeks. I think that's pretty much inevitable. And because of timing, I skipped a few of the early weeks. So my plan included:
  • 15 weeks (the original plan had 18)
  • 2 up, one down cycles
  • 6 runs per week: 2 speed workouts/tempo runs, 3 easy runs, and 1 long run
  • 2 strength training sessions per week (one lower body and one upper body) and one core workout. I added these.
  • Easy runs and workouts set mostly in time, long runs in distance
What I liked about it:
  • The overall schedule (6 runs per week with 2 workouts and 1 long run) worked well for me. I never really felt too too tired, and running 6 days a week I was able to increase my mileage quite a bit without injury.
  • It turns out that a max long run of 18 miles really is enough to train for a marathon!
  • I was somewhat surprised to have a mostly positive experience with the faster paces, since my track efforts had not been particularly enjoyable. Being able to just set the interval times on my watch was a lot easier than using a track or trying to figure out 200m segments or whatever on the roads.
  • Most of the workouts included drills and strides, and I think those were helpful for my running form and cadence.
  • Mainly I liked that it worked, in that I finished the marathon feeling pretty good 😆
Room for improvement (with some being a matter of preference):
  • About halfway through I realized that this plan has zero running at marathon pace. Now, I was really trying not to have a pace goal and focus just on finishing, so it didn't matter too much for me, but it did seem weird to train for a race but have no workouts at race pace. The level 2 and 3 plans do have some MP work in the long runs, but there's nothing in level 1. So if I were going for time I would probably pick a different plan or make some adjustments.
  • There's no real opportunity to reassess your fitness mid-plan. I felt like my fitness was improving but I didn't know how much. So again, if I had been trying to figure out what a time goal should be, I'm not entirely sure how I would have gone about it. (This may also just be partly me being relatively new to specific time goals and something that I will get better at with practice.)
  • Personally I did not enjoy a couple of the workouts with really short intervals (especially when they had really short recoveries - I'm looking at you, 3 rounds of 8 x 30s@MAS/15s easy). My watch is not quick enough to accurately measure paces with such short intervals, so in addition to being miserable I also had no idea whether I had executed the workout correctly.
  • Also I still hate sprinting uphill. Fortunately I only had to do that on two occasions.
  • I feel like if you write a book with a whole chapter on strength training, you should schedule strength sessions in the training plan. I already agree that strength training is important; I just think all these people talking about it need to write plans that tell you when and how long to do it!
Also just for fun, in these 15 weeks I completed:
  • 89 runs (not including the marathon)
  • 543 miles (not including the marathon)
  • Peak week of 48 miles and 8h 43m 43s training time
  • 30 strength workouts
  • 14 core workouts
Yay! So...how many more days until I can run again??
 
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Training plan in review
Matt Fitzgerald's Run Like a Pro level 1 marathon plan


It has been 3️⃣ days since my last run (aka the marathon), work is pretty quiet, and I'm bored. I'm no longer sore and I'm itching to run again, but the consensus from the internet seems to be that it's better to wait at least a few days and preferably a week before getting back to running after a marathon so your body can recover. So here we are, not running but still thinking about running. Seems like a good time to look back at my training plan.

When I was deciding on a marathon training plan, I looked at a whole bunch of different options before settling on this one. After doing the Higdon Novice 2 HM plan, I wanted something with (1) more days of running, (2) more variety in runs, and (3) speed workouts that had time intervals rather than distance. This plan had all of those things, so despite a couple of concerns (mostly whether I'd be able to finish a marathon after a max distance of 18 miles in the plan; spoiler alert, it was fine), I went with it.

I stuck to the plan (in the sense that I didn't add a bunch of miles like I did for the Higdon plan) and completed every run I had scheduled, though I did shift the days around some weeks. I think that's pretty much inevitable. And because of timing, I skipped a few of the early weeks. So my plan included:
  • 15 weeks (the original plan had 18)
  • 2 up, one down cycles
  • 6 runs per week: 2 speed workouts/tempo runs, 3 easy runs, and 1 long run
  • 2 strength training sessions per week (one lower body and one upper body) and one core workout. I added these.
  • Easy runs and workouts set mostly in time, long runs in distance
What I liked about it:
  • The overall schedule (6 runs per week with 2 workouts and 1 long run) worked well for me. I never really felt too too tired, and running 6 days a week I was able to increase my mileage quite a bit without injury.
  • It turns out that a max long run of 18 miles really is enough to train for a marathon!
  • I was somewhat surprised to have a mostly positive experience with the faster paces, since my track efforts had not been particularly enjoyable. Being able to just set the interval times on my watch was a lot easier than using a track or trying to figure out 200m segments or whatever on the roads.
  • Most of the workouts included drills and strides, and I think those were helpful for my running form and cadence.
  • Mainly I liked that it worked, in that I finished the marathon feeling pretty good 😆
Room for improvement (with some being a matter of preference):
  • About halfway through I realized that this plan has zero running at marathon pace. Now, I was really trying not to have a pace goal and focus just on finishing, so it didn't matter too much for me, but it did seem weird to train for a race but have no workouts at race pace. The level 2 and 3 plans do have some MP work in the long runs, but there's nothing in level 1. So if I were going for time I would probably pick a different plan or make some adjustments.
  • There's no real opportunity to reassess your fitness mid-plan. I felt like my fitness was improving but I didn't know how much. So again, if I had been trying to figure out what a time goal should be, I'm not entirely sure how I would have gone about it. (This may also just be partly me being relatively new to specific time goals and something that I will get better at with practice.)
  • Personally I did not enjoy a couple of the workouts with really short intervals (especially when they had really short recoveries - I'm looking at you, 3 rounds of 8 x 30s@MAS/15s easy). My watch is not quick enough to accurately measure paces with such short intervals, so in addition to being miserable I also had no idea whether I had executed the workout correctly.
  • Also I still hate sprinting uphill. Fortunately I only had to do that on two occasions.
  • I feel like if you write a book with a whole chapter on strength training, you should schedule strength sessions in the training plan. I already agree that strength training is important; I just think all these people talking about it need to write plans that tell you when and how long to do it!
Also just for fun, in these 15 weeks I completed:
  • 89 runs (not including the marathon)
  • 543 miles (not including the marathon)
  • Peak week of 48 miles and 8h 43m 43s training time
  • 30 strength workouts
  • 14 core workouts
Yay! So...how many more days until I can run again??

Nice analysis of your training plan. It sounds like you have a good idea of what you want to do moving forward.

Regarding the recovery...I actually take two weeks off from running after a marathon. However, I do a lot of walking, either outside or on the treadmill, to keep myself active at a lower level. I find that the itchiness to run again after that break will help me through whatever aspects I don't like about the training plan. :)
 
Congrats on your race! I enjoyed the write-up of your plan as well.

I'm looking at you, 3 rounds of 8 x 30s@MAS/15s easy

Without knowing for sure what this workout was, sometimes you aren't necessarily meant to need very specific feedback. Since the intervals are so short, I'm guessing this is a workout that's supposed to suck and feel terrible, but you still have to be able to pace yourself to run it relatively consistently the whole time. You'll find similar workouts in many other training plans too!

Also... go for a walk! That helped me stay sane during the week I didn't run.
 
Regarding the recovery...I actually take two weeks off from running after a marathon. However, I do a lot of walking, either outside or on the treadmill, to keep myself active at a lower level.

Also... go for a walk! That helped me stay sane during the week I didn't run.
I spend lots of time walking my dog, so I'm not just sitting around 😅 Of course, he's also a very slow walker because he wants to stop and sniff everything, so that's not the best exercise.

Tomorrow I might try out my dad's super-old stationary bike just to get my HR up a bit without the impact.
 
Looking ahead: 2023 plans

It has been 5️⃣ days since my last run. However, I feel a bit more sane after 20 minutes on an ancient stationary bike yesterday (although I think my butt is bruised from the also-ancient seat).

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ID: An exercise bike that is probably as old as I am. The control panel doesn't even work anymore - it may just need a new battery, but I am not going to try to mess with it.

Now that I've looked back at the marathon and marathon training, it is time to think about *spreads arms dramatically* the future! *cue intense music and rapidly shifting spotlights*

Of course, it's all a bit hazy still at this point. *music trails off and lights slow to a halt* *clears throat* Anyway.

2023 goals
1. Run a marathon. Hey, look, I'm already done. Okay, we can go home now 🙃

2. Run at least 100 miles per month. Running regularly has been great, and I'd like to keep it up all year in 2023. This month might actually be the hardest since I'm taking at least a week off after the marathon and then getting back into it slowly. But I've already run 55 miles in January, so it still seems doable.

3. Many PRs. Now that I'm actually running consistently, I figure I should be able to get PRs in all of my current race distances (5K, 10K, 10M, HM) as long as I can find races to do and don't have terrible weather or surprise injuries.

Two of those should be pretty easy. The one 10K I ran (55:19), I didn't race, and my unofficial PR (52:32) came in the second half of a 16-mile long run. Maybe I could even go sub-50? We'll see where we are when that race comes around. I've also only done one 10-miler (1:44:06) which I ran about four times leading up to, so I could run a faster 10-miler tomorrow if I really wanted to. My official 10-mile split (1:25:46) from my POT HM is significantly faster, but since I still had 3.1 miles to go at that point, I should be able to beat that time without too much trouble as well.

The HM (1:52:51) will be a little more challenging because I don't think I could have run much faster at the time. But I'm sure my fitness improved during marathon training and will continue to improve throughout the year, so it should be doable. Then there's the 5K. My 5K PR is from when I was 16 and running cross-country, and I don't remember exactly what it was, so that's its own challenge. But I'm confident it was in the 24 range, which means I should just aim for 23:59 or faster. So...no problem, right? 🫠

Race schedule
So far I'm signed up for two distances, 10M and 5K, as part of the Cherry Blossom Challenge the first weekend in April. I'm not quite sure about the others yet (and I might need another attempt at the 5K, but at least there are plenty of those around).

I'm thinking maybe the Capitol Hill Classic in May for my 10K, even though I am still a little annoyed at them for the complete lack of communication around the race status in 2020. Not sure about the half yet - I love RnR, but it's two weeks before Cherry Blossom and trying to PR three races in two weeks does not seem like a winning strategy. There are some small out-and-back HMs along the C&O Canal towpath, so that's always an option. Or I could do one in Florida at the end of the year - OUC or Space Coast could be good. I'm not looking to travel for this one, so DC and Central Florida are my areas for now.

Then there's a voice in my head whispering, "But the marathon...next time will be so much faster..." which is hard to resist. So part of me wants to try for MCM at the end of October too. I'm just trying to figure out how that would work with trying to PR a HM in the fall as well - is that even feasible? And if so, is it better to do the HM before or after the marathon? Plus I think that's another one where entries are pretty competitive, so who knows if I would even get in.

Anyway, here's that potential calendar:

4/1: Cherry Blossom 5K
4/2: Cherry Blossom 10-miler
5/21: Capitol Hill Classic (10K)
10/29: Marine Corps Marathon
11/26: Space Coast HM, or
12/2: OUC Orlando HM


I might throw some other events in there just to mix up the long runs a bit, but these are the ones I'm thinking about actually racing.

Thoughts? I'm new to this whole planning-ahead thing, so any advice is welcome!
 
Have you ever done the Capitol Hill Classic? It's a pretty good little race. I might do that one again this year.

Not sure about the half yet - I love RnR, but it's two weeks before Cherry Blossom and trying to PR three races in two weeks does not seem like a winning strategy.

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So we're only a little over 9 weeks out from RnR DC. You'll likely still be recovering a bit as you get back into running, so that doesn't leave a ton of time to build additional fitness before the race. The Cherry Blossom 10-Miler is only 2 weeks later, so again the same problem comes. I think it depends on where you think your fitness is - you ran that 1:52 HM legitimately, and the T+D should be even more favorable in March. As for Cherry Blossom, if your only goal is a PR off 1:44:06, I'd be willing to bet running a HM 2 weeks prior won't be that big of an issue. An equivalent 10-Miler from your HM PR is 1:24:42. As you said, you could probably PR that tomorrow if you really wanted.

So part of me wants to try for MCM at the end of October too. I'm just trying to figure out how that would work with trying to PR a HM in the fall as well - is that even feasible? And if so, is it better to do the HM before or after the marathon?

If the goal is a HM PR this year, definitely before MCM. MCM is October 29, so you're looking at a couple weeks recovery. Then a full HM training plan puts an ideal race in late January to late February. Conversely, you could run a tune-up HM for MCM training and attempt a PR, but you'd be looking at a late August race. ...Woof. Not many good options here, honestly.
 
Have you ever done the Capitol Hill Classic? It's a pretty good little race. I might do that one again this year.
I signed up in 2020 but for obvious reasons didn't run then. Signups for 2023 aren't open yet but it's tentatively in the calendar.

So we're only a little over 9 weeks out from RnR DC. You'll likely still be recovering a bit as you get back into running, so that doesn't leave a ton of time to build additional fitness before the race.
Yeah, the short timeline is probably more of a barrier than the back to back races, so I don't think that's going to be my PR attempt even if I do end up signing up for it.

MCM is October 29, so you're looking at a couple weeks recovery. Then a full HM training plan puts an ideal race in late January to late February. Conversely, you could run a tune-up HM for MCM training and attempt a PR, but you'd be looking at a late August race. ...Woof. Not many good options here, honestly.
It's definitely tricky timing. My thought with the Nov/Dec races was that I would just recover from the marathon and try to stretch that training into a half PR also. But also I think MCM might be more fun than any of the HMs that might work, so even if it doesn't work out to get the HM PR this year, it might be worth it. If I can get a spot...
 

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