dayvewc
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Mar 20, 2013
Ok, going to try to recreate (parts of) my post that got eaten the other day.
I spent some time playing with an excel spreadsheet to see how much faster using my snowball would have paid off my highest interest, highest balance payment compared to instead using the snowball to build my emergency fund.
What I'm looking at is that I have 3 0% interest accounts that I will pay off during 2016. If I take the payment from the first two (that payoff in July and then December) it will reduce the length of my payment by about 2 more years. (Final payment in May of 2019 instead of June 2021). I already pay a little extra, and that is estimated to reduce the payoff by 2.5 years already.
If I continue to pay on this loan and dump the snowball in to savings, then by the time the payoff happens, I will have saved about $9700. Instead, if I use the snowball to increase the payment, and then use the entire snowball after it is paid off for savings until it would have been paid off, I am looking at having about $12,200 in savings.
I really like the idea of having the larger savings at the end, but that is still looking 5.5 years from now. My concern is that my emergency fund is pretty close to non-existent right now, and I do not like that.
For full disclosure, and for accountability purposes, my accounts are as follows (highest interest rate to lowest, payoffs calculated at current monthly payment rate, current payment vs. minimum payment):
OL TS - about $13,500 @ about 14.5% interest - estimated payoff June 2021 - $300 vs $263
DVC 1 TS - $ 6,912 @ 11.75% interest - estimated payoff June 2019 - $200 vs $143
Personal loan - about $14,500 @ 10.99% interest - payoff October 2018 - $492 vs $492
DVC 2 TS - $ 5,301 @ 8.99% interest - estimated payoff June 2021 - $100 vs. $71
Home Mortgage - $ 36,972 @ 3.5% interest - estimated payoff June 2035 - $450 vs $415
CareCredit - $ 1,189 @ 0% interest until December 2017 - $100 vs $25
Best Buy - $ 490 @ 0% interest until July 2016 - $70 vs $25
USAA Consolidation - $ 7,072 @ 0% interest until January 2018 - $590 vs $140
I am expecting the following "extra" income amount this year:
Work PD Stipend $400 March
Tax Refund about $3500 March
Retention Bonus between $2000 and $5000 in May
Summer job $2000 ($1000 each at first of July and first of August)
The Retention Bonus is really up in the air on how much we will get. It all depends at what level the state decides to fund it and how they decide to calculate "service time". I will most likely get the $2000, so that is what I am planning on, but I might get lucky and receive more.
I intend to use about half of my tax refund to pay for the trip to US with the nephew as his graduation present in March, and then will use about $1000 of my retention bonus for the DL 60th anniversary trip I have planned for the end of May.
All of my other bills/utilities are either paid direct from my account or I use my gas CC for the extra discount per gallon and then paid off each week.
But I really do not have any extra left over to build savings. I am managing to save about $300 a month already, but it is primarily earmarked for maintenance fees, taxes, and insurance payments. So, while I could conceivably use some of it for an emergency, I don't really have way to "make up" for any that I "borrow" from that account and I will need to have the full amount at various points through the year.
If anyone has another idea, I would love to hear it. Currently, my plan is to use the $400 to payoff the Best Buy card early, and then use that payment to build actual emergency savings. That would put me with about $700 in emergency savings by the end of the year, and my current payment plans will have the 3 0% interest account paid off by Christmas 2016. Which means in 2017, I will have a $700 snowball to pay toward the accounts with interest, which would let me absolutely pay off the two DVC accounts, and make a dent in the personal loan, or make a huge dent in the personal loan if not completely pay it off.
Which means in 2018, I should be able to pay off everything except the home mortgage. And still making all my other bills and utility payments plus adding $70-$100 a month for emergency savings.
I am open to other options and ideas, truly I am. Partially because the way I am managing to make my other bills is through my second job, but I am not sure how much longer I can physically continue with it. I love it, but just not sure I can keep on doing it.
Sorry, didn't mean to write an actual novel, but I started the whole thing by just looking at the "what if" on the snowball on the one account, and it kind of expanded and then exploded, encompassing everything.
I spent some time playing with an excel spreadsheet to see how much faster using my snowball would have paid off my highest interest, highest balance payment compared to instead using the snowball to build my emergency fund.
What I'm looking at is that I have 3 0% interest accounts that I will pay off during 2016. If I take the payment from the first two (that payoff in July and then December) it will reduce the length of my payment by about 2 more years. (Final payment in May of 2019 instead of June 2021). I already pay a little extra, and that is estimated to reduce the payoff by 2.5 years already.
If I continue to pay on this loan and dump the snowball in to savings, then by the time the payoff happens, I will have saved about $9700. Instead, if I use the snowball to increase the payment, and then use the entire snowball after it is paid off for savings until it would have been paid off, I am looking at having about $12,200 in savings.
I really like the idea of having the larger savings at the end, but that is still looking 5.5 years from now. My concern is that my emergency fund is pretty close to non-existent right now, and I do not like that.
For full disclosure, and for accountability purposes, my accounts are as follows (highest interest rate to lowest, payoffs calculated at current monthly payment rate, current payment vs. minimum payment):
OL TS - about $13,500 @ about 14.5% interest - estimated payoff June 2021 - $300 vs $263
DVC 1 TS - $ 6,912 @ 11.75% interest - estimated payoff June 2019 - $200 vs $143
Personal loan - about $14,500 @ 10.99% interest - payoff October 2018 - $492 vs $492
DVC 2 TS - $ 5,301 @ 8.99% interest - estimated payoff June 2021 - $100 vs. $71
Home Mortgage - $ 36,972 @ 3.5% interest - estimated payoff June 2035 - $450 vs $415
CareCredit - $ 1,189 @ 0% interest until December 2017 - $100 vs $25
Best Buy - $ 490 @ 0% interest until July 2016 - $70 vs $25
USAA Consolidation - $ 7,072 @ 0% interest until January 2018 - $590 vs $140
I am expecting the following "extra" income amount this year:
Work PD Stipend $400 March
Tax Refund about $3500 March
Retention Bonus between $2000 and $5000 in May
Summer job $2000 ($1000 each at first of July and first of August)
The Retention Bonus is really up in the air on how much we will get. It all depends at what level the state decides to fund it and how they decide to calculate "service time". I will most likely get the $2000, so that is what I am planning on, but I might get lucky and receive more.
I intend to use about half of my tax refund to pay for the trip to US with the nephew as his graduation present in March, and then will use about $1000 of my retention bonus for the DL 60th anniversary trip I have planned for the end of May.
All of my other bills/utilities are either paid direct from my account or I use my gas CC for the extra discount per gallon and then paid off each week.
But I really do not have any extra left over to build savings. I am managing to save about $300 a month already, but it is primarily earmarked for maintenance fees, taxes, and insurance payments. So, while I could conceivably use some of it for an emergency, I don't really have way to "make up" for any that I "borrow" from that account and I will need to have the full amount at various points through the year.
If anyone has another idea, I would love to hear it. Currently, my plan is to use the $400 to payoff the Best Buy card early, and then use that payment to build actual emergency savings. That would put me with about $700 in emergency savings by the end of the year, and my current payment plans will have the 3 0% interest account paid off by Christmas 2016. Which means in 2017, I will have a $700 snowball to pay toward the accounts with interest, which would let me absolutely pay off the two DVC accounts, and make a dent in the personal loan, or make a huge dent in the personal loan if not completely pay it off.
Which means in 2018, I should be able to pay off everything except the home mortgage. And still making all my other bills and utility payments plus adding $70-$100 a month for emergency savings.
I am open to other options and ideas, truly I am. Partially because the way I am managing to make my other bills is through my second job, but I am not sure how much longer I can physically continue with it. I love it, but just not sure I can keep on doing it.
Sorry, didn't mean to write an actual novel, but I started the whole thing by just looking at the "what if" on the snowball on the one account, and it kind of expanded and then exploded, encompassing everything.