Jumping Lines

[just stella]

Not okay unless it's a run to the bathroom type scenario.

Seems to be mostly entitled parents trying to do this. What are we teaching this generation, folks ?

 

[Indiana Scott]

Not OK to us either.

 

[violina]

I think leaving to use the restroom or holding a spot for someone having to use the restroom makes sense. It happens.

I don't think there's a valid excuse for the rest, which honestly, does include coffee/churro run (though that is not as bad as a group joining). Holding a spot for group is incredibly inconsiderate to other guests.

 

[roobug]

We have a child with disabilities. With the new DAS it does not apply to seated shows without FP. We have been told by every CM we speak with to hold our children out of the mass line and have one of us save seats. We hate it as then there are three or four of us coming in late (depends on who is using a wheelchair that day) and we have gotten many rude and hurtful comments. It is very frustrating as we are doing exactly what CM's tell us to do, and a few times we have had to be walked in by CM's because people are being cruel to our children. Now both our kids look typical when they are not using wheel chairs or walking devices. I really wish people would default to being kind but I get the frustration of waiting in line and having people appear to cut in front of you. But try and keep in mind that some of these people may be doing exactly what they are told to do by Disney.

 

[hyperminimalism]

Is it okay to have stragglers in your party join you in line at the front gate before the park opens?

No. Either everyone is in line at the same time or you all wait to get inside. It's your responsibility to take care of things like bathroom breaks, getting babies/toddlers situated into their strollers, getting bags packed and ready, etc. Unless you have a serious emergency (aka period, diarrhea, some kind of medical condition), I don't see an excuse when poor planing was the real reason.

Is it okay for Mom shop on Main Street while the rest of us line up for Rope Drop, and then have her join us a few minutes early?

Nope. Again, same concept as the first question. Plan your day accordingly so you don't have to cut in line while other people follow etiquette. Tell mom to take some time to shop mid-day or even late morning. Those are pretty good times to shop since not a lot of people will be in the stores before the parks close.

Is it okay for some of your group to line up early for Frozen and then save seats front and center for others much further back in the line? (Isn't this exactly the same thing as holding places in any other line?)

It is the same, yes, and I think it's pretty rude. If you can't all be there at the same time or you're only saving one seat, which isn't that big of a deal, I think, then you need to wait until all of your party is there. If you're saving 3+ seats, then you need to wait until everyone's ready to go into the theater/attraction.

Is it okay for one or two people in your party to leave the line for the bathroom and then return and join the rest of them? How about to go get churros for the group?

Again, this is a matter of prioritizing. Does your party need churros right then and there in line? Can you get the churros before, then all line up? What about waiting half an hour to an hour later? It's all about poor planning. I can understand bathroom emergencies, baby bottom blow-outs and whatnot. These things happen. But if you've got someone pushing through a line carrying 4 churros, 2 drinks, and a Mickey pretzel with nacho cheese sauce then it's going to piss some people off.

Imagine this: let's say one or two people from each party did that, or even half the guests. You'd have so many people cutting in line, going back and forth, screwing up ride parties. People would have to step back to the side to wait for the rest of their party to board or get split up. The amount of time people have to board some rides is seconds. The CMs have no time to wait for all of your party to make it. It just doesn't make sense to me why someone would make such a silly decision to inconvenience people just because suddenly they had a craving for a churro while they were standing in line. If you know you're going to be standing in line for a while then maybe consider getting a snack beforehand. And it's not like they don't have an excuse. The wait times are posted on the boards, the rides themselves, and the app.

 

[MillauFr]

IMO...absolutely never OK.

I would rather the parents take the kid to the bathroom mid line than have the kid go on the ride and cause a shutdown.

 

[GeneralTso]

But.....it happens ALL THE TIME.
Not everyone speaks up and says anything is what I've noticed. Most just let it happen.

 

[EmJ]

But.....it happens ALL THE TIME.
Not everyone speaks up and says anything is what I've noticed. Most just let it happen.

I’m the person who will think of a thousand things to say... in the hours after it happens. By the next morning, I will have composed a cutting but eloquent speech, leaving the line-cutter chagrined and apologetic.

Of course, none of that does much good *in the moment*, when all I can usually muster is some stink eye and a muttered “ruuuude” under my breath.

 

[ParkHopper1]

I would rather the parents take the kid to the bathroom mid line than have the kid go on the ride and cause a shutdown.

Please go re read my entire post and not take one line out of context. Taking a mid to the potty is one thing...cutting in line is another

 

[kristensideaoffun]

We have a child with disabilities. With the new DAS it does not apply to seated shows without FP. We have been told by every CM we speak with to hold our children out of the mass line and have one of us save seats. We hate it as then there are three or four of us coming in late (depends on who is using a wheelchair that day) and we have gotten many rude and hurtful comments. It is very frustrating as we are doing exactly what CM's tell us to do, and a few times we have had to be walked in by CM's because people are being cruel to our children. Now both our kids look typical when they are not using wheel chairs or walking devices. I really wish people would default to being kind but I get the frustration of waiting in line and having people appear to cut in front of you. But try and keep in mind that some of these people may be doing exactly what they are told to do by Disney.

I wish more people knew this was encouraged by Disneyland CMs. It’s incredibly hurtful to us when we have to pass by people giving us the stink eye or mumbling “rude” under their breath (as someone above said) when we meet my husband near the front of the line. We usually use a DAS for my daughter, but there are still some FP queues she can’t wait in. So my husband will normally go ahead in line and, once he nears the front, we will join him. Our daughter has epilepsy so she looks like a typical kid, and I’ve noticed as she’s gotten older (she’s 12 now) we get more dirty looks than we did when she was a cute 5 year old in a Minnie costume.

Disneyland’s policy is to let people hold places in line, regardless of the reason. And because there is no way of knowing a person or group’s reason for joining later in line, there is no reason for me to get upset or ruin the next 15 minutes of my life with negativity because I am standing behind a group that has grown larger.

 

[JohnneeO]

FWIW, not everyone will agree, but we have recently done the following:

- I tell my family to jump on the line while I park the stroller/wagon. By the time I reach the line, there are usually a few folks who have entered behind my family. I have had no problem politely asking to let through to join them;

- Spread a blanket on empty spot on the curb 45-60 minutes prior to a parade, I occupy the entire blanket while family shops/gets snacks/uses the restrooms, etc. when they return, I leave briefly for the restroom, and then we all occupy the entire blanket;

- At DLP, grab paper FP's while my family jumps on the standby line for the Ratatouille ride. I waited near a queue barrier until they passed next to it, and then joined them in line without issue.

- Left a queue and returned in order to take my DD to the Restroom.

So my answer is, yeah, sometimes, but only in certain specific, limited circumstances.

 

[MATTERHORN]

I have no issue if the people joining take up the same amount of space. For instance, if two people joined someone in line for a 3 seater ride and it takes up the same ride vehicle and doesn't push me back any. If that makes sense.

So if someone stands in line for Dumbo, then two people join and sit in the same elephant, who cares? Would have been the same for me either way! But I agree, it's worse if they are pushing past people versus a line where they can get in at the later meeting point like Mr. Toad. If someone waits in the side garden area and the other person joins them before you go inside, no biggie. I always tried to wait until a smart meeting point versus pushing through when we had child bathroom/potty training emergencies!

 

[EmJ]

I wish more people knew this was encouraged by Disneyland CMs. It’s incredibly hurtful to us when we have to pass by people giving us the stink eye or mumbling “rude” under their breath (as someone above said) when we meet my husband near the front of the line. We usually use a DAS for my daughter, but there are still some FP queues she can’t wait in. So my husband will normally go ahead in line and, once he nears the front, we will join him. Our daughter has epilepsy so she looks like a typical kid, and I’ve noticed as she’s gotten older (she’s 12 now) we get more dirty looks than we did when she was a cute 5 year old in a Minnie costume.

Disneyland’s policy is to let people hold places in line, regardless of the reason. And because there is no way of knowing a person or group’s reason for joining later in line, there is no reason for me to get upset or ruin the next 15 minutes of my life with negativity because I am standing behind a group that has grown larger.

As the person who has muttered "rude", I want to extend an apology, generally, to anyone I've ever stink-eyed who had a disability or other reason for working their way through the queue other than their kids just not wanting to wait. I did not know this was Disney's policy--I've never even been to Disney. My experiences have occurred at Universal and Legoland. We depart at the end of this month for Legoland; we're going to Disney in March, and I will adjust my attitude accordingly

 

[theluckyrabbit]

I wish more people knew this was encouraged by Disneyland CMs. It’s incredibly hurtful to us when we have to pass by people giving us the stink eye or mumbling “rude” under their breath (as someone above said) when we meet my husband near the front of the line. We usually use a DAS for my daughter, but there are still some FP queues she can’t wait in. So my husband will normally go ahead in line and, once he nears the front, we will join him. Our daughter has epilepsy so she looks like a typical kid, and I’ve noticed as she’s gotten older (she’s 12 now) we get more dirty looks than we did when she was a cute 5 year old in a Minnie costume.

Disneyland’s policy is to let people hold places in line, regardless of the reason. And because there is no way of knowing a person or group’s reason for joining later in line, there is no reason for me to get upset or ruin the next 15 minutes of my life with negativity because I am standing behind a group that has grown larger.

Totally agree with this! But balancing it out with the reality that situations like this usually happen with just a few people (one parent with one or two kids or maybe one or two adults together) meeting the other parent/rest of the group. This kind of situation usually doesn't mean 5-10 or more people, holding snacks and boasting about the rides they just did, meeting up with another placeholder at the front of the line. And, sadly, it is the latter kind of group that makes things more difficult for the former kind of group.

 

[MATTERHORN]

- At DLP, grab paper FP's while my family jumps on the standby line for the Ratatouille ride. I waited near a queue barrier until they passed next to it, and then joined them in line without issue.

I just posted the same! Not sure why most people don't wait until a more appropriate point to join up rather than pushing through! I always look for that if we need it. Maybe it's because a lot of people who don't go often don't know where/if those points exist?

 

[WonkaKid]

She said she spent a lot of money on the vacation and wasn’t going to spend the whole time dealing with whiny, bored kids in line.

I think this is a fundamental problem with most of the guests that are difficult. In fact, I’ve suggested this to CMs many times (most recently on Sunday) and they nearly always agree. That is, a family of four comes from the East Coast, for example, to spend five days at DL/DCA. After flights, hotel costs, notoriously pricey Disney meals *and* park tix, suddenly the parents have forked over several thousand dollars. Now: a fraction of guests from this group will say to themselves (perhaps on a subconscious level) “I’ve paid a ton of money for this trip and I’m going to get absolutely everything I want out of it. *Everything.*” Often this is where the guests that are nasty and demanding to CMs originate. CMs have said to me many times that about 10-15% of guests are difficult or unpleasant. These guests seem to forget that *everyone* has paid a lot to be at the park(s). It’s simply a pricey undertaking. A few years ago an African American CM that escorts characters told me that at least once a week a guest would make a nasty racial comment to her. Wow. Wow! That insanity doesn’t fly *anywhere* but at Disneyland especially. When CMs tell me horror stories like that, I’ll often respond “Where do these people think they are?!” Some people are simply unpleasant and will always be so. Some (not enough) of these guests will be escorted from the park.

 

[Bossy22]

We were once in line for Radiator Springs when the bathroom hit. We stepped aside and let everyone past so we were in the same spot when my wife and daughter came back. The one spot i'm not as picky is for the lines to get in the park. Im not against kids roaming the entry area while some in the group wait, as long as they all show up at the beginning.

 

[DizMe]

I went to DL with my adult DD and toddler grandson in January. We were in line for Space, which had been a short one until a breakdown left us waiting for quite some time close to the open room at the end where you can see the tracks. These 2 guys, around 18-20, were pushing their way through the line in a manner that made it look important that they go forward. In typical me fashion, I felt a vague annoyance in a subconscious way but didn't really think about what they might be doing until I heard my daughter say, "Uh, nope, fellas. Wait in line like everyone else," and the people around us started applauding and echoing what she said. They sheepishly backed up but I'm sure they still got a good jump in the line. Anyway, I don't know if calling them out is a good strategy or not, but it was kind of funny coming from my 5'1", 100 lb daughter.

 

[tink89]

The only time i have held a spot is at the turnstiles. Usually 2 adults will grab the stuff at Starbucks and the kids go get in line with the rest of the adults. Once the whole group is there we almost always let the people who got in line after us go in front of us. Especially if it is just 2 of them people. We usually arrive around 6:45 so its not like we are in the front of the line either we are more like at the end of the line.

With attractions we always have one straggler, my dad. He walks with out a care in the world drinking his coffee or whatever drink or food is in his hand. We always walk in to an attraction together, but for some reason he ends up 2 or 3 families behind us. People usually see that he is with us and have no issue letting him through other times he doesn't even catch up to us and just rides alone or with someone else lol.

We went in December with a party of 12 and not once did we hold a spot not even for the 5 kids/teens with us. We did at times get to the attractions at separate times and there were families in between us but we would just wait in the spot we got when we got to the line and never cut ahead if anything we would let people go ahead of us until the whole group was together or if we needed one more person for the ride someone would move back with the other group.

 

[Kimpossible1]

After spending a week at Disneyland I noticed that not one person said "excuse me" as they pushed through the line to meet up with their party. This is unusual to me as people are genuinely apologetic as WDW, and will say "excuse me, sorry" the whole way up the line. At Disneyland, it happened at least once a day, so it wasn't an isolated incident. Maybe I'm misreading it but WonkaKid seemed to imply that people from the East Coast were (not as kind, or pushier) because they spent so much money, but I could say the same thing about "locals" at Disneyland ;-) so trying to isolate a group doesn't serve any purpose. It's just the way people are today....WDW has a lot of foreigners who people think are trying to take advantage, but they simply don't understand. I don't think we should be trying to break it down into this group or that group does this or that, because that doesn't seem right. Some people just aren't as courteous as others and that's it. How I choose to react is my problem, does it really impact my day or the world? We need to learn to "let it go" more and "be kind" These threads do nothing but agitate people LOL...like poking a bee's nest.