None of these ideas leave any room for DVC cabins.
DVC cabins would be our dream come true! Please!
Have faith! Remember, we are only seeing what appears to be less than half of the plans- and these may not even be the real plans anyway.
There was a pretty detailed rumor reported by Des1954 which included super-premium campsites right on Bay Lake.
IMHO, Disney would be missing a huge money maker if they failed to include premium cabins as part of this project. They could be scattered around to the west of the area that we are looking at.
The current cabins at FW can only accommodate a maximum of 6 guests. If they built cabins that could accommodate larger parties, these would be very popular.
Here is a whack at the TCD vision:
Just an interesting note: the lodge (as we've been calling it) is larger than Pioneer Hall even without the porches. The porches make it much larger. I still don't quite buy that the parking will be where the stables are now... who wants the suites that look out onto a parking lot? I think the main parking may still be across the road, with a lot of emphasis on cart-based bell-service.
I bow at the feet of the wizard!
Seriously, Shan-man, you rock!
That is almost exactly what I am talking about.
Look how this design could leave both the pavilion and the barn standing.
Why tear them down?
Use them for a recreation amenity, or a restaurant, or something.
That would be cool!
And, thanks for pointing out the relative size of the main lodge building. It is very big. I would think that it would be multi-story, with public space on the lower floor, e.g. lobby, restaurants, bar, community room, and rooms on the upper floors. Like at AKL. A lot could fit in that footprint.
A lot.
Interesting. If they took the angle a little sharper to the south, it appears the old pool could be used as well.
They may do under-unit parking like Kidani Village?
I really hope they don't go toward the bell-services/valet approach. That is one of my biggest complaints with the current Boardwalk setup, and Grand Floridian is even worse (not that I have stayed there, but have driven over for dinner and had to park and walk).
I hate being forced into "add-on" services like that.
This is exactly what I've been thinking as I've read through all of the pages watching this wonderful iterations unfold! Great job with the drawing overlays on the Google images! I loved seeing the older ones from the '90s in B&W to the current ones. I've been lurking and following these rumors for a while now as they've come up, but this thread has been amazingly neat to watch and read it all unfold. Kudos to all you inquisitive minds.
My two cents, like HockeyKat, is that if they repeat the style of building that they did at AKV - both at Jambo House and Kidani, then they would probably repeat the parking situation that went in at Kidani. Given the renderings, it sure does appear that they would follow that design choice all the way through with the parking situation as well. Ground level parking that is "underground" since the lobby entry area and "first floor" are actually on level two. Multiple elevators and stairwells throughout to accomodate guests getting to and from their vehicles easily wherever they are located, and avoids that unsightly view of the parking lot. It depends on how much would actually get built, of course. It could be a mix of both, underunit on one side, and traditional lot for the other side? Just guessing myself right along with you all.
I appreciate getting the DVC perspective on this.
I don't know about the under-building parking so close to the lake.
But, you are both right- that's how it was done at AKL.
And, the DVC over in Vero Beach is like that too.
Question... I know the BWV, BWI, and the Boardwalk area where ESPN is, etc. But was that "wooden walkway" out into Bay Lake with the gazebo beside RC also called a boardwalk?
I don't ever recall it being called a boardwalk, just a nature walk.
I'm not sure if you are aware, but all of that, including the gazebo, was removed earlier this year.
Maybe I'm behind a little, and someone else has noted this, but the link is dead. Even if you go directly to Swiftmud's site, the link appears in a search, but the page itself is gone.
Ah ha!
Good thing LL captured it and posted it on her site!
Because I am not done studying it.
Does the removal of the document mean that it was, in fact, and accidental leak?
Or is this all part of Disney's evil plan to get free feedback from Disney fans?
Anyway, since we still have the document, we can keep on discussing it . . .
This area has been bothering me, because I can't read it.
Can anyone tell me what it says inside of the square just west of the playground?:
I think the last word is area. I am thinking that this will be a fenced off area used for construction staging. But, I don't know why it would be on this side of the project as opposed to west of where the buildings are supposedly going.
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