ROFR Thread April to June 2021 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[DisneyMom_3]

I feel your loss... literally, as I have been in a daze since they took my CCV earlier today. I feel somewhat better after my spouse sent me on a run to the liquor store. Cannot wait for the kids to go to bed

So sorry! I completely understand! I had Poly bought back at the end of January. Mine seemed to be the first to start all the recent buy backs at Poly, so it took me by complete surprise. My broker had never had one bought back before mine. It was my first attempt and was pretty discouraging.
But, now almost 3 months later, I’ve closed on VGF and am waiting on the membership and points to load. It also has banked points that I can’t wait to use!
All that to say, don’t give up! Brush yourself off and keep looking! It will be worth it in the end!

 

[Amyeliza]

I think I need a break from reading these posts. I run high on the anxiety meter. In the last few days, I've read basically, Disney is randomly taking loaded contracts, contracts they have never taken before, just got their budget approved and therefore will be buying everything the can get their hands on, are stalling ROFRs and Estoppels, and are deliberately not fixing IT issues to manage resale points. PHEW. I sure hope the folks in the resale market are looking for other jobs as it looks like they will be unemployed in the next month or so.

In summary, I should give up on my contracts; stop reading the forums and be satisfied with the points I've had for 28 years because I just missed the boat on the entire resale program.

This entire process has caused me so much anxiety. I'm ashamed to admit that I backed out of two contracts due to impulse purchases since March I guess that's why we have the 10 days. I've doubted where I wanted to purchase, changed my mind a dozen times and finally ended up with what I'm pleased with. Deleting the resales sites from my computer helped. I was checking every half hour and makig myself nuts.

I'm so glad I'm in the ROFR process with my FINAL property and ready to enjoy my points in the coming months.

 

[Robin&Marion]

I’m sorry, I’m new, what were the specs of your CCV that was taken?

Here are mine:
Robin&Marion---$138-$21550-150-CCV@WL-Dec-152/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 4/7, taken 4/21

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Isles22---$104-$17437-150-SSR-Sep-30/20, 270/21, 150/22- sent 3/10, passed 3/31

Updated to reflect buyer finding 150 unused 2020 points, then banking most of those into 2021 per my request.

That's a nice surprise find! Strange as I don't know how you would lose them to start but nice.

 

[Emmsgug]

Here are mine:
Robin&Marion---$138-$21550-150-CCV@WL-Dec-152/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 4/7, taken 4/21

Ugh. I’m new to all of this, but that’s the pits. In your opinion, was it more desirable because it was loaded?

 

[Paul Stupin]

I think I need a break from readin gthese posts. I run high on the anxiety meter. In the last few days, I've read basically, Disney is randomly taking loaded contracts, contracts they have never taken before, just got their budget approved and therefore will be buying everything the can get their hands on, are stalling ROFRs and Estoppels, and are deliberately not fixing IT issues to manage resale points. PHEW. I sure hope the folks in the resale market are looking for other jobs as it looks like they will be unemployed in the next month or so.

In summary, I should give up on my contracts; stop reading the forums and be satisfied with the points I've had for 28 years becuase I just missed the boat on the entire resale program.

I don’t think Disney is a huge friend of the resale market, considering it’s their direct competition. Though their strategy might seem to us somewhat opaque, whatever it is, it isn’t designed to benefit resale buyers.

 

[lizzynorma]

lizzynorma---$91.3-$21960-230-OKW-Apr-0/20, 230/21, 230/22- sent 4/5, taken 4/21

PASSED


AKV:

disneyrunner2009---$119-$13874-110-AKV-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 110/22- sent 3/8, passed 3/31

Chris_jarrett---$114-$21330-170-AKV-Feb-0/20, 170/21, 170/22, 170/23- sent 3/13, passed 4/1

Rebs007---$114-$25039-200-AKV-Sep-0/20, 276/21, 200/22- sent 3/11, passed 4/1

DollFam---$115-$27717-220-AKV-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 220/21, 220/22- sent 3/14, passed 4/1

Dawg74---$112-$25839-210-AKV-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 210/21, 210/22- sent 3/13, passed 4/1

jlmarr---$115-$24850-210-AKV-Sep-0/20, 105/21, 210/22- sent 3/16, passed 4/5

ejm3211---$115-$20892-165-AKV-Apr-0/20, 330/21, 165/22, 165/23-Int'l Seller- sent 3/22, passed 4/12

stacyzerr---$115-$36885-300-AKV-Dec-0/20, 190/21, 300/22-Prorated 21 Dues- sent 3/22, passed 4/15


AUL:


HappyThoughtsTees---$88-$18700-200-AUL-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 200/22-seller pays MF' 22- sent 3/5, passed 3/30


BCV:


jswoodard---$145-$26235-175-BCV-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 78/21, 350/22- sent 3/8, passed 4/2

gfarb27---$120-$39259-300-BCV-Feb-0/20, 300/21, 300/22, 300/23- sent 3/17, passed 4/7


BLT:

kastaine---$160-$42695-250-BLT-Feb-191/20, 250/21, 250/22, 250/23- sent 3/11, passed 3/31

wiltony---$160-$27474-160-BLT-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 320/21, 160/22- sent 3/8, passed 4/1

MagicKreator---$160-$46063-270-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 540/21, 270/22- sent 3/8, passed 4/1

jscottnc---$155-$39720-250-BLT-Dec-0/19, 5/20, 250/21, 250/22- sent 3/16, passed 4/5

GBBT7636---$157-$33635-200-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 253/21, 200/22- sent 3/23, passed 4/15


BWV:


pangyal (Seller)---$115-$29165-250-BWV-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 250/22-INT'L SELLER- sent 3/12, passed 4/1

momoftwins---$132-$21636-150-BWV-Mar-0/20, 300/21, 150/22- sent 3/15, passed 4/1

PearlJoy---$145-$4110-25-BWV-Apr-0/20, 0/21, 25/22, 25/23-Delayed closing in October- sent 3/7, passed 4/1

Sunnyore---$145-$11433-75-BWV-Aug-0/20, 1/21, 75/22- sent 3/17, passed 4/5

Markk1--$124-$43400-350-BWV-Dec-220/20, 350/21-350/22 sent 3/17, passed 4/5

WishUpon0909---$123.33-$20446-150-BWV-Dec-0/20, 300/21, 150/22- sent 3/18, passed 4/8

gfarb27---$116-$44330-350-BWV-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 571/21, 350/22- sent 3/24, passed 4/12


HH:





OKW:


Maleficent_Hades---$107-$27528.80-230-OKW-Dec-230/20, 230/21, 230/22- sent 3/12, passed 4/1


OKW EXTENDED:


ddematteo29---$97-$16432-150-OKW(E)-Aug-0/20, 152/21, 150/22- sent 3/15, passed 4/8

hammer1995---$105-$6000-50-OKW(E)-Aug-0/19, 0/20, 50/21, 50/22- sent 3/19, passed 4/13

PVB:


dkotsel---$145-$29657-190-PVB-Feb-0/20, 190/21, 190/22- sent 3/13, passed 4/1

Minniemoo15---$150-$25870-160-PVB-Feb-0/20, 316/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 3/12, passed 4/1

hbg1---$149-$32040-200-PVB-Feb-0/20, 232/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 3/11, passed 4/1

Courtking12---$150-$56098-350-PVB-Aug-0/20, 694/21, 350/22- sent 3/12, passed 4/1

Jennyliztx---$143-$24633-160-PVB-Apr-0/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 3/17, passed 4/5

vbmedic52---$141-$27148-185-PVB-Jun-0/20, 169/21, 185/22- sent 3/19, passed 4/7

whitters3---$155-$16598-100-PVB-Mar-57/20, 65/21, 100/22- sent 3/19 passed 4/12


RIV:




SSR:

Isles22---$104-$17437-150-SSR-Sep-0/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 3/10, passed 4/1

RapunzelRN---$111-$12006-100-SSR-Jun-0/20, 0/21, 100/22- sent 3/11, passed 4/1

timff18---$110-$23100-210-SSR-Mar-0/20, 420/21, 210/22, 210/23-INT'L SELLER- Seller pays closing/'21 MF- sent 3/10, passed 4/1

Lexxiefern---$114-$15143-120-SSR-Jun-0/20, 240/21, 120/22- sent 3/7, passed 4/1

RyanDisneyDad---$118-$19497-150-SSR-Aug-150/20, 300/21, 150/22- sent 3/7, passed 4/1

allisonmw11---$100-$15533-150-SSR-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 75/21, 150/22- sent 3/18, passed 4/8

M:SpilotISTC12---$125-$5567-40-SSR-Dec-10/20, 20/21, 40/22, 40/23- sent 3/23, passed 4/13




VGC:





VGF:

GG23---$183-$19661-100-VGF-Mar-0/20, 195/21, 100/22- sent 3/6, passed 4/1


MinnieSueB---$165-$17140-100-VGF-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 100/21, 100/22-seller paying dues- sent 3/11, passed 4/1

Stw121191---$170-$21391-120-VGF-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 1/21, 120/22- sent 3/17, passed 4/7

BuzzyBelle---$173-$22490-130-VGF-Feb-0/20, 130/21, 130/22- sent 3/17, passed 4/8

macman123---$180-$24107-125-VGF-Aug-14/20, 250/21, 125/22- sent 3/19, passed 4/14


WL/ BRV:


mollys_aunt---$120-$13361-100-BRV@WL-Aug-0/19, 0/20, 200/21, 100/22- sent 3/12, passed 4/1

cp3uho---$104-$17100-150-BRV@WL-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 119/21, 150/22- sent 3/10, passed 4/1


WL/ CCV:

Pxedstqn98---$140-$11873-75-CCV@WL-Aug-0/20, 116/21, 37/22-Closing 6/21- sent 3/17, passed 4/7

geneandamy---$148-$28234-175-CCV@WL-Dec-125/20, 175/21, 175/22- sent 3/17, passed 4/8


VB:

gfarb27---$65-$16888-250-VB-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 250/21, 250/22-seller pay dues- sent 3/17, passed 4/12



WAITING


AKV:



OneTsp---$115-$25384-200-AKV-Dec-0/19, 124/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 2/26

E2ME2---$125-$21788.50-160-AKV-Jun-0/20, 263/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 3/4

Rebs007---$108-$19221-160-AKV-Aug-160/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 3/9

starfrenzy---$125-$27356-200-AKV-Dec-0/19, 391/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 3/24

SMB418---$119-$20966-160-AKV-Aug-0/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 4/3

Lee Matthews---$120-$28991-220-AKL-Sep-106/20, 220/21, 220/22-seller pays 20'MF- sent 4/17

PearlyJoy---$112-$18573-160-AKV-Apr-0/20, 0/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 4/16


AUL:



matthewredrich---$90-$20670-200-AUL-Dec-73/20, 400/21, 200/22-Int'l Seller- sent 3/30

BayGirl22---$124-$22110-160-AUL-Oct-0/20, 320/21, 160/22- sent 4/5

antib---$100-$14735-125-AUL-Feb-0/20, 250/21, 125/22- sent 4/6

gfarb27---$95-$23922-220-AUL-Dec-0/19, 440/20, 220/21, 220/22- sent 4/16


BCV:

MissPixieDreamer---$151-$24491-150-BCV-Feb-0/20, 255/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 4/16


BLT:



nie0214---$163-$17630-100-BLT-Oct-0/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 3/24

mrmagpi---$180-$9910-50-BLT-Dec-42/20, 50/21, 50/22- sent 3/26

Princesscinderella---$160-$27474-160-BLT-Feb-0/20, 320/21, 160/22-Intl Seller- sent 3/31

PearlyJoy---$153-$15930-100-BLT-Apr-0/20, 0/21, 50/22, 100/23- sent 4/1

tmendez2---$159-$34035-200-BLT-Feb-0/20, 320/21, 200/22- sent 4/2

ddubaynavarro---$155-$15500-100-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 7/21, 100/22- sent 4/2

emmymac17---$150-$25859-160-BLT-Feb-0/20, 320/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 4/5


BWV:



MegMoves---$140-$22771-150-BWV-Feb-0/20, 300/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 3/17

VdoesDisney--$133.5-$21874.5-150-BWV-Oct-0/19, 139/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 3/26

Crash8ART---$116-$12445-100-BWV-Feb-0/20, 124/21, 100/22, 100/23- sent 3/30

PrincessPam1665---$122-$27540-220-BWV-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 220/22- sent 4/8

gfarb27---$125-$47428-350-BWV-Dec-0/19, 700/20, 350/21, 350/22- sent 4/16


HH:

Saratoga Souris---$68-$16344-200-HH-Mar-6/20, 200/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 3/25


OKW:


Max Jolicoeur---$127-$3875-25-OKW-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 25/21, 25/22- sent 3/12

Nangosix---$99-$10162-90-OKW-Aug-80/20, 90/21, 90/22- sent 3/12

gfarb27---$100-$31000-310-OKW-Apr-0/20, 620/21, 310/22, 310/23-Seller pays closing- sent 3/24

Parkfreak---$99-$23619-220-OKW-Mar-0/20, 233/21, 220/22-Seller Pays Closing- sent 3/30

npatellye---$90-$10501-100-OKW-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 91/21, 100/22- sent 4/16



OKW EXTENDED:



PearlyJoy---$108-$11903-100-OKW(E)-Apr-0/20, 100/21, 100/22, 100/23- sent 4/1

ILoveMyDVC---$108-$17211-150-OKW(E)-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 186/21, 150/22- sent 4/6

guerrero5---$118-$23936-180-OKW(E)-Feb-0/20, 341/21, 180/22- sent 4/9


PVB:



achikes24---$144.50-$22993-150-PVB-Oct-0/20, 87/21, 150/22- sent 3/24

DingDang17---$152-$15681-100-PVB-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 79/22- sent 3/29

macman123---$142-$31990-220-PVB-Aug-0/20, 0/21, 220/22- sent 4/7

AladdinJ---$144-$43200-300-PVB-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 300/21, 300/22-Seller pays 50% closing cost- sent 4/13

kandlsutton---$175-$14265-75-PVB-Dec-75/20, 75/21, 75/22- sent 4/16


RIV:




SSR:



MisKaren1---$114-$13019-100-SSR-Dec-0/19, 100/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 3/11

LottiesMommy---$110-$4607-35-SSR-Mar-0/20, 35/21, 35/22- sent 3/17

Jacec---$113-$31083-252-SSR-Mar-70/20, 252/21, 252/22, 262/23- sent 3/21

nie0214---$104-$22102-200-SSR-Oct-0/20, 100/21, 200/22- sent 3/26

ILoveMyDVC---$112-$34988-300-SSR-Apr-0/20, 519/21, 300/22, 300/23- sent 3/31

BeBopaSaurus---$114-$24977-200-SSR-Feb-0/20, 240/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 4/6

ILoveMyDVC---$114-$31689-255-SSR-Oct-0/19, 34/20, 510/21, 255/22- sent 4/7

Belle53---$104-$17411.50-150-SSR-Oct-120/20, 150/21, 150/22-Int'l seller- sent 4/9

tlm345---$120-$26192-200-SSR-Oct-0/20, 320/21, 200/22- sent 4/14

NeoChaos---$110-$8300-65-SSR-Mar-0/20, 130/21, 65/22- sent 4/14

superlarz---$104-$17425-160-SSR-Sep-0/19, 0/20, 89/21, 160/22- sent 4/16

gfarb27---$105-$32000-300-SSR-Dec-0/19, 153/20, 300/21, 300/22-Seller pays dues/closing- sent 4/17


VGC:




VGF:



gfarb27---$181-$38500-200-VGF-Dec-0/19, 283/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 3/24

BigDaddyLaBouff---$165-$31826-180-VGF-Jun-0/20, 180/21, 180/22- sent 3/30

gfarb27---$175-$29882-160-VGF-Dec-0/19, 160/20, 320/21, 160/22- sent 4/13

Prince John Robin Hood---$169-$34597-200-VGF-Feb-0/20, 0/21, 200/22- sent 4/14




WL/ BRV:


max jolicoeur---$107-$17215-150-BRV@WL-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 43/21, 150/22- sent 3/7

gfarb27---$95-$28500-270-BRV@WL-Sep-0/19, 518/20, 270/21, 270/22- sent 4/1

awestbrook23---$106-$17548-150-BRV@WL-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 125/21, 150/22- sent 4/2

Disneytrippin'---$110-$23663-195-BRV@WL-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 195/21, 195/22- sent 4/6


WL/ CCV:



GreyTami---$135-$11239-75-CCV@WL-Mar-0/20, 75/21, 75/22, 75/23- sent 3/27

Robin&Marion---$138-$21550-150-CCV@WL-Dec-152/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 3/29



VB:


MICKIMINI---$65-$4515-50-VB-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 50/21, 50/22- sent 4/13



TAKEN



AKV:

Bina Mischka---$107-$22091-200-AKV-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 200/22- sent 3/1, taken 3/29

Lee Matthews---$109-$24525-225-AKV-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 225/22- sent 3/18, taken 4/8


AUL:



BCV:


gfarb27---$120-$26800-200-BCV-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 3/4, taken 4/1


BLT:

tmendez2---$147-$33650-230-BLT-Feb-0/20, 0/21, 0/22, 230/23- sent 3/11, taken 3/31

achinforsomebacon---$143-$34585-225-BLT-Jun-160/20, 450/21, 225/22- sent 3/9, taken 3/31

Disneytrippin'---$152-$24320-160-BLT-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 160/22-Seller pays closing- sent 3/11, taken 3/31

gfarb27---$144-$46650-300-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 600/21, 300/22- sent 3/23, taken 4/10

gfarb27---$145-$54320-350-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 700/21, 350/22- sent 3/23, taken 4/14

lovethesun12---$145-$15745-100-BLT-Mar-0/20, 100/21, 100/22, 100/23- sent 3/25, taken 4/15


BWV:

gfarb27---$103.33-$34195-300-BWV-Oct-0/19, 0/20, 600/21, 300/22- sent 3/11, taken 4/2

PrincessPam1665---$117-$25220-210-BWV-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 220/22- sent 3/15, taken 4/8

Culli---$113-$18322-150-BWV-Jun-62/20, 97/21, 150/22-Seller 1/2 MF 21 UY- sent 3/16, taken 4/9


HH:



OKW:
lizzynorma---$91.3-$21960-230-OKW-Apr-0/20, 230/21, 230/22- sent 4/5, taken 4/21



OKW EXTENDED:



PVB:


Alladinj---$133-$40840-300-PVB-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 300/22- sent 3/3, taken 4/1

aladdinj---$134-$21100-150-PVB-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 150/22- sent 3/17, taken 4/8


SSR:





VGC:




VGF:




WL/ BRV:



WL/ CCV:



VB:

 

[ILoveMyDVC]

I don’t think Disney is a huge friend of the resale market, considering it’s their direct competition. Though their strategy might seem to us somewhat opaque, whatever it is, it isn’t designed to benefit resale buyers.

Wouldn't it be easier to get their corporate lawyers to find a way to just stop it rather than drag people through so much misery?

 

[VdoesDisney]

Wouldn't it be easier to get their corporate lawyers to find a way to just stop it rather than drag people through so much misery?

I may be wrong but I don’t think they can stop it, it’s technically a real estate transaction, they can’t prevent owners from selling their contracts, they could exercise ROFR on every transaction but that doesn’t seem realistic.

 

[Robin&Marion]

Ugh. I’m new to all of this, but that’s the pits. In your opinion, was it more desirable because it was loaded?

This is the first instance of CCR ROFR I am aware of. I believe Riviera is tainted by resale restrictions which makes the prior DVC offering of CCR mor attractive, so CCR being sold out now coupled with continued preference for CCR over Riviera due to resale restrictions necessitated DVC exercising ROFR. As noted there are still incentives for direct CCR purchase so DVC needs to meet that demand.
This perspective was brought to you as a summary of excellent insight from forum members, as well as a Chilean Sauvignon Blanc (credit where credit is due )

 

[poofyo101]

Maybe they cannot foreclose on points right now due to covid ?

 

[JETSDAD]

Maybe they cannot foreclose on points right now due to covid ?

Plenty of foreclosures going on.

 

[poofyo101]

Plenty of foreclosures going on.

well there goes that theory

 

[Robin&Marion]

Maybe they cannot foreclose on points right now due to covid ?

agreed. Look at the Orange County register and there are plenty of DVC foreclosures being processed during these difficult times

 

[npatellye]

I don’t think Disney is a huge friend of the resale market, considering it’s their direct competition. Though their strategy might seem to us somewhat opaque, whatever it is, it isn’t designed to benefit resale buyers.

I wonder how many people will get tired of things being taken in ROFR and end up buying direct versus how many people get tired of things being taken in ROFR and decide to not buy at all.

 

[michael730]

agreed. Look at the Orange County register and there are plenty of DVC foreclosures being processed during these difficult times

How can you tell which ones are foreclosures if you don’t mind me asking? Is there a way to filter that? Sad times

 

[MinnieSueB]

This is the first instance of CCR ROFR I am aware of. I believe Riviera is tainted by resale restrictions which makes the prior DVC offering of CCR mor attractive, so CCR being sold out now coupled with continued preference for CCR over Riviera due to resale restrictions necessitated DVC exercising ROFR. As noted there are still incentives for direct CCR purchase so DVC needs to meet that demand.
This perspective was brought to you as a summary of excellent insight from forum members, as well as a Chilean Sauvignon Blanc (credit where credit is due )

Guides are not telling potential direct buyers about restrictions. Was there 2 weeks ago at Riviera & my friend is seriously looking at buying direct at Riviera and took the tour & "the talk" & guide has yet to mention the restriction to her.

 

[Robin&Marion]

I wonder how many people will get tired of things being taken in ROFR and end up buying direct versus how many people get tired of things being taken in ROFR and decide to not buy at all.

I am grappling with that decision. I may engage DVC to get a firm costing for direct purchase. That said, for me it is a leap of faith that direct purchase now will future-proof any changes to benefits. We have seen requirements for blue card increase in recent years, although from my perspective the benefits are not commensurate with the increases. If I cannot defend a decison to purchase direct or resale from an economical perspective (and resale is always more economical yet increasingly challenging) I may just burn my money elsewhere.

 

[GreyTami]

Robin&Marion---$138-$21550-150-CCV@WL-Dec-152/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 4/7, taken 4/21
(Updated sent date; found out paperwork caused a delay)

This really caught me by surprise! Would anyone else have been surprised?

Uh oh, I am at that same price with fewer points, not looking good for me.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Wouldn't it be easier to get their corporate lawyers to find a way to just stop it rather than drag people through so much misery?

Prevent selling a deeded real estate interest? That would be an interesting argument for a lawyer to try and make. However, it's allowed per the POS and really it would be a pretty tough sell to now allow an interest to be sold. Resale is about savings and not really miserable.