Thanks for finding some data; totally agree with you that there isn't enough capacity in any park for everyone to ride what they want to. This was also explained in that Defunctland Fastpass video which really should be pinned to the top of any skip the line service thread lol
I was referring to those popular E Tickets that are promoted in WDW ads that people see and want to experience- stuff like ToT, Slinky, Tron, Guardians, etc. Even using a ride without a height requirement - Toy Story Mania had 2-3 hour waits back when it opened and Fastpasses were gone for the day within an hour.
Agree... Disney isn't the leader it once was. But they could get there again if they wanted...
Yes, I do want it to be more expensive for FP. Then less people would get it and the standby lines would move better. I don't love higher prices at Disney but that isn't what my issue is. My issue is that they are charging more & providing less for what you pay. That is the problem.;
True about kids rides but I think Universal is making strides in this direction. I do wish they have more rides for everyone but we will see what happens with Epic.
You are never going to please everyone all the time. But if they provide a good service and focus on quality and value overall they will come out a winner.
That's great that your one experience was good. That isn't the experience for every family. That is the problem.
No line is ever super fast but having stayed at Universal multiple times with Express Pass the EP line was almost always much better than stand-by. And essentially that is the point of EP - to reduce the wait that you would have if you are stand-by. It never said it was no wait at all.
Yes, and they should keep raising prices. However they need to up their value of what you are getting. If they just raise prices and quality continues to decline that will be a recipe for disaster.
Especially when you consider how Peter Pan's Flight has capacity of approx. 800 riders/hr and it's super popular....yikes.
Lower additional staffing requirements to add attractions vs building an entire park as well. Seems more in line with where Disney wants to go
You have to choose rides based on availability though (I had this issue in DL when I used it recently). In a more expensive system there are fewer restrictions. I probably wouldn't buy it if it were more expensive but that's the tradeoff.
Right, so your problem is the cost. That's exactly my point. You think that the $450-900 per hour is unreasonable. Some people think the cost for Genie+ and the additional Lightning Lanes costs are unreasonable. It's all relative. If you were a billionaire you probably wouldn't care about the VIP costs, just like the upper-middle class doesn't care about the G+ and ILL costs. So your problem isn't with a lack of service, it's with the price. You feel entitled to a higher level of service, but you aren't willing to pay for it. I don't know how to politely say it, but, Disney doesn't care because you're not rich enough to deserve that treatment in their eyes. Being priced out of experiences isn't fun for anyone, but that's just how the business works. Not everyone gets to have a private jet, not everyone gets to skip the lines.
I didn't read it that way. Fastpass and VIP tours are 2 different things. Yes, the cost is wildly different but even Universal has both. They have private VIP tours and semi-private so yes they are 2 different things.
This is very intriguing for me because I can't remember a single live action movie I watched as a child other than Jurassic Park. But I watched animated ones daily for months at a time. It would be super interesting if Disney's attempts to give new life to their older IPs ends up backfiring because kids can't connect with their live action movies the same as we could with their animated ones.
No my problem isn't cost at all. In fact they'll likely need to raise the VIP tours if such a huge price hike occurs on Genie+/ILL. VIP Tours has its place in the parks and I've never had any qualms about their existence nor price.
I miss the more democratic FP and FP+ where everyone could skip (some) lines. I’ll pay for Genie plus but I’m not happy about it.
Really? I watched Willow, Princess Bride, Homeward Bound, Drop Dead Fred, Secret Garden, Little Princess, all sorts of Shirley Temple movies, etc.
I really doubt kids today are watching the live action remakes over the original animated films but who knows, I could be wrong. They sort of get forgotton within a year of them releasing. Like, does anyone remember Lady and the Tramp, Pinocchio and Dumbo getting the live action treatment?
I remember watching Little Princess from that list. But it's none of those are merch buying nostalgia inducing IPs to me. All of them were made before I formed consciousness tho so I can't speak for an older generation.
My kids are more drawn to some of the live action stuff vs the originals, but they’ve watched a few of the originals on their own. They’ll watch more of the newer animated features like Encanto, Moana, Frozen, Wreck It Ralph, etc. over the classics.
Just, no. But that’s also gotten decent backlash because of JK Rowling’s involvement.
Weird because I literally said we could financially afford a VIP tour. These tours exist for a reason and they aren't for the average park goer though. If they were they would lose their VIP aspect. On the other hand we know how it feels for many when too many people have Genie+/ILL so there's a balance to be had about accessibility with the experience of those paying for it.
Older generation? Aren't you a Millennial?
