News Round Up 2019

[rteetz]

News

Natalie Portman to Narrate Disneynature 'Dolphin Reef' for Disney+

 

[rteetz]

News

Disneyland's Black Tap Craft Burgers and Shakes opening soon!

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...ew5Nqvd8Hn0pjox2Vx4-LwY5WdxRJZ-Pl1-y24LJZSVaw

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I realize you posted this because it is Disney related and that you find it interesting because with the Disney family, there is a company that was founded by a family member, whose name is forever attached to the brand, and yet, the family members have absolutely no say in the company and how it is run (which is somewhat interesting). However...

I don’t necessarily understand why CEOs in major corporations get so much flack about their salaries when actors, actresses, professional athletes, etc. are rarely, if ever, put on the hot seat about how much money they earn. CEOs have the enormous pressure and responsibility of making decisions that impact people’s employment and livelihoods, stockholder’s investments (including mutual funds held by a 401(k)), and potentially the health of the economy. Their skills and talents are as unique as an elite athlete’s and arguably benefit society even more. I don’t know many people who would be willing to have that kind of pressure on their lives or work the hours that they do. So, is Iger’s bonus outrageous for completing one of the biggest media mergers of our time? No more so than someone who gets paid $300M to play baseball, IMO.

This is pure clickbait, unless Disney announced a parade coming for the 50th. If Disney hasn't announced a nighttime parade, the story was written to make Tom more money

 

[PolyRob]

Hopefully at least a new daytime parade. Does sound like new fireworks is still in the mix.

IDK if I am sadder that there won't be a night parade or at the possibility that Festival of Fantasy could go away

 

[writerguyfl]

I do understand them not releasing Song of the South but Dumbo is just weird to me because that film is readily available as it is.

Maybe it's the medium. Disney isn't responsible for what parent/guardians do with a DVD. If kids grab the DVD from the shelf, watch it, and get the wrong message from a particular scene, that's on the parents.

In contrast, it's reasonable to think that kids might watch that scene via the on-demand streaming service without any form of parental involvement. I could easily see parents getting upset that their kids have access to something that is only appropriate in a historical setting.

I haven't paid much attention to Disney+. I'm assuming there aren't any parental controls involved. To me, that would be the only way to handle this sort of scenario.

 

[rteetz]

Maybe it's the medium. Disney isn't responsible for what parent/guardians do with a DVD. If kids grab the DVD from the shelf, watch it, and get the wrong message from a particular scene, that's on the parents.

In contrast, it's reasonable to think that kids might watch that scene via the on-demand streaming service without any form of parental involvement. I could easily see parents getting upset that their kids have access to something that is only appropriate in a historical setting.

I haven't paid much attention to Disney+. I'm assuming there aren't any parental controls involved. To me, that would be the only way to handle this sort of scenario.

There are supposed to be parental controls on Disney+.

 

[The Pho]

I haven't paid much attention to Disney+. I'm assuming there aren't any parental controls involved. To me, that would be the only way to handle this sort of scenario.

It would be odd if there weren’t any parental controls since Hulu and Netflix both have them. Also since Disney tries to be family friendly all over.

 

[skier_pete]

News

BREAKING: Walt Disney World Will Not Present a New Nighttime Parade for 50th Anniversary

Why have a free parade when you can just charge people to see one? Don't be surprised when fireworks go away to only special event nights. This is what we've wrought folks by succumbing to all these hard ticket events. (And I hate to be "that guy", but trust me it's only going to get worse as they try to wring more dollars from everyone's pockets.)

 

[firefly_ris]

News

Song of the South and Crow scene from Dumbo will not be on Disney+

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/song-south-dumbos-jim-crow-scene-will-not-be-disney-1203624

The crow scene is really strange to not have. Thats like when Dumbo learns to fly....

Bummer. I was really hoping that had been false. It won't affect my family since we already own Dumbo but I don't believe in scrubbing films. And the crows are who give Timothy the idea of the concept of the 'magic feather' to get Dumbo to fly. So I have no idea where they'll go with that without it. Plus they also re-appear at the end of the movie for the When I See an Elephant Fly reprise and they say goodbye to Dumbo as Casey Jr. leaves, so.... yeah. Just a bizarre choice to me.

 

[MommaBerd]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

(And I hate to be "that guy", but trust me it's only going to get worse as they try to wring more dollars from everyone's pockets.)

You have plenty of company on here.

 

[chicagoshannon]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

You're right. Kids wouldn't know. It just offends adults. Most things only offend adults.

 

[firefly_ris]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

Same here. I watched Dumbo a lot as a kid -- it was (and still is) one of my favorite Disney films. It never crossed my mind to think, "Oh, they're supposed to be caricatures of black people", like ever, at all... I just thought they were fun, and they helped Dumbo out. And that they had a catchy song.

 

[SouthFayetteFan]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

Yeah - they’re the ones that are nice to Dumbo and very cool. I remember wanting to be a crow when I watched the movie...

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Anyone else see the new Disney Nature movie? Penguins? It stars Ed Helm (Office and the Hangover) as the narrator. I enjoyed it a lot.

It has a great soundtrack and it's also nice and family friendly.

 

[dina444444]

Anyone else see the new Disney Nature movie? Penguins? It stars Ed Helm (Office and the Hangover) as the narrator. I enjoyed it a lot.

It has a great soundtrack and it's also nice and family friendly.

I’m going Wednesday evening to see it.

 

[only hope]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

Same here. I watched Dumbo a lot as a kid -- it was (and still is) one of my favorite Disney films. It never crossed my mind to think, "Oh, they're supposed to be caricatures of black people", like ever, at all... I just thought they were fun, and they helped Dumbo out. And that they had a catchy song.

Same here. I didn’t see it as being stereotypical of anything. I just thought they were nice
birds with a funny way of talking. I wouldn’t have even been able to identify the birds as southern, not til I was nearly a teen. Stuff like that goes over most elementary age kids heads. Kids tend to enjoy stories at the most basic level (a cute flying elephant who gets to go back to his mom!) and don’t look for hidden meanings. Heck, if they’re gonna cut stuff, I’d think the whole getting-drunk and the ensuing Pink Elephants would go too! I figured out Dumbo and Timothy were drunk long before I realized there was any issue with the crows.

 

[dlavender]

Why have a free parade when you can just charge people to see one? Don't be surprised when fireworks go away to only special event nights. This is what we've wrought folks by succumbing to all these hard ticket events. (And I hate to be "that guy", but trust me it's only going to get worse as they try to wring more dollars from everyone's pockets.)

Did you change your avatar to a Viking?

 

[OSUZorba]

I do understand them not releasing Song of the South but Dumbo is just weird to me because that film is readily available as it is.

I personally don't see what is so bad about the crow scene. Yes, they are trying to sound stereotypically black and the obviously bad Jim Crow reference. But they are good guys in the film, I don't recall them having any negative features.

There are many other movies that stereotype cultures, including from Disney. The most recent obvious to me is in the new BatB with the very stereotypical gay character, which many people thought was great and claimed it was the first openly gay character even though there only way he was open about it was via stereotypes.

I really don't think the crow scene crosses the line into unseeable.

 

[Gusey]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

According to Steve Hulett's book Mouse in Transition, Dinsey have been receiving complaints about the crows since the 1970s. They have been gradually trying to phase out the crows, removing their song from Disney CDs and removing the characters from the remake. This is just the final nail in the coffin for them