Florida Resident tickets - Not allowed to purchase with statements?

[HopperFan]

The reality is, unless you are a full time resident and have proof ( lease, deed, Florida Liscence, utility bill) you cant buy or use resident tickets. Quit trying to use tickets you cant use. It is your own fault for breaking rules and good for the CMS not allowing you to. If you dont live here, if your relatives dont live here nad they are over 18, if you are a pt resident with no proof, then quit trying to cheat the system. You arent a resident. Period.

So you have taught your kids how to cheat to get what they want? I lived in GA for 20 years and couldve used my parents or brothers address to get a resident ap. I didnt. Why? Because its lying and is wrong. When we moved here and became "residents" last August we got resident APs. I guess to each his or her own, but telling everyone how you have lied for years to get something you shouldnt have isnt something I would do publicly.

WOW ...

First off you are 100% incorrect. Disney and Universal absolutely allow this. Many years ago they required a Driver License but saw a huge market of part timers that were their perfect demographic. They changed their requirements to engage the thousands and thousands that part time in FL.

I have no issue sharing our experience because we completely work within Disney rules. Our children spend time in FL with us - in our secondary home - and in writing are secondary owners. One is severely disabled and travels with us always, the other is a college student. Disney requires the additional info because they aren’t minors.

I have not lied in any way, I did what Disney asked of me. I follow Disney rules in every aspect from the parks to the room capacity to the tickets. They are fine with it so don’t you worry about it. What is important here is that folks like us who pay hefty real estate taxes (to make up for no income tax), pay utilities, shop local, hire local etc are considered by Disney to be FL Residents for ticket purposes.

Anyone who has these documents and gets a less knowledgeable CM needs to ask for a manager.

 

[Remy is Up]

I mistakenly took charge of planning this family gathering at Disney world and now instead of dealing with just my headaches in planning I'm handling 5 different families!

Here is my question though, so my brother and his wife live in Nebraska with me during a portion of the year and when it starts getting cold they go over to Florida. They want to take advantage of the Florida resident tickets, so I told them today to go to the box office to buy their tickets before flying back out here tonight. They went there and were told that because they didn't have "Florida ID" they couldn't buy tickets. I knew this ahead of time and told them to take their bank statements, mortgage or utility bill.

The CM they talked to apparently would not accept any of those forms with a Nebraska ID. They dismissed the Verizon bill because it wasn't "Utility" and they dismissed the statement from Firstnational bank because its a Nebraska bank. I can possibly see both the reason's for that but they should have accepted the mortgage statement. All 3 had valid proof showing the Florida address and they had their Nebraska ID's. Is there something I'm missing or was this a misinformed CM?

If so is there anything I can do now? Out trip is in October and they don't plan on going back to Florida till then, but I need their tickets before that to reserve FP.

Does the mortgage statement have their name on it? Regardless of the bank being a Nebraska bank does it have a Florida Address?
Is everything within the last 2 months?
This is per the WDW rules for proof of residency:
You’ll need to provide proof of a Florida residential address in order to purchase a Florida Resident park ticket or annual pass. For each ticket or pass purchased for an adult, you may provide any of the following:

• Valid Florida driver’s license (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida state-issued ID card (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida-based military ID

*For your convenience, Florida residents with any of the above listed identification can now verify their residency online, which means you can bypass Guest Relations and go straight to the parks! Simply fill out the “Your Florida Resident Information” form upon check-out when you purchase tickets through Disneyworld.com or complete the “Customize Your Tickets” step when you purchase through the My Disney Experience app.

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following—dated within the past 2 months—evidencing a Florida residential address, along with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
You may use a monthly mortgage statement from within the past 2 months; it may not be more than 2 months old. Deeds, mortgage contracts, mortgage payment booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration

• Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
• Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
• Current Utility bill (power / phone / cable / water)
• Bills can be no more than 2 months old (P.O. Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

Mail

• Mail from financial institutions, including checking, savings or investment account statements
• Mail from federal, state, county or city government agencies
• Mail can be no more than 2 months old (P.O. Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.

 

[Cj2017]

Everything had both their name and Florida address within the 2 month period

 

[chaoskids]

None of Disney’s written policies state the FL resident must be a full time resident to obtain FL resident passes. It clearly states what is required to prove residency ( again not full time residency) to obtain the ticket.

 

[yulilin3]

The Dis guidelines don't allow breaking of Disney rules. The only reason this thread is still open is because it doesn't circumvent or cheat Disney rules

 

[AngiTN]

Everything had both their name and Florida address within the 2 month period

OP, please have them pull up the list Disney says is allowed, print it out along with their documentation from said list and go back. Tell them not to leave till they get someone who listens/follows the printed rules. It's not complicated at all. Disney makes it VERY easy, provided you use items from their list.
It is infuriating that they got such a misinformed CM and that there are so many out there. There's no excuse for it at all. If a guest can find the list of what's acceptable, even a CM on the job for their first day can too. I wish they had the name of those they'd spoken to so someone could retrain them

It is the case. If you dont live here, you arent a resident. There is no gray area. You live here or you dont.

You can't be more wrong and you know it.
People are perfectly capable of being residents of more than 1 location.
You even posted ALL the things that dual residents have
Disney has this list FOR those who are dual residents. Otherwise, it would be limited to FL DL being required, only. Since anyone that is a full time FL resident would have a FL DL

Does the mortgage statement have their name on it? Regardless of the bank being a Nebraska bank does it have a Florida Address?
Is everything within the last 2 months?
This is per the WDW rules for proof of residency:

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following—dated within the past 2 months—evidencing a Florida residential address, along with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
You may use a monthly mortgage statement from within the past 2 months; it may not be more than 2 months old. Deeds, mortgage contracts, mortgage payment booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration

• Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
• Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
• Current Utility bill (power / phone / cable / water)
• Bills can be no more than 2 months old (P.O. Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

Mail

• Mail from financial institutions, including checking, savings or investment account statements
• Mail from federal, state, county or city government agencies
• Mail can be no more than 2 months old (P.O. Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.

 

[DavidNYC]

FWIW - I have gotten the FL passes about 6 times now with my bank statement and an out of state license. Not a single CM has had the slightest problem. I do not recall any other thread where someone has reported having a problem with proof that conforms with the rules (although I've seen some confusion with regard to interpreting the rules particularly as it relates to mortgages). Have the statement, print out a copy of the rules from the Disney site and I'd be willing to bet the next CM has no issue.

I recommend the ticket center at Disney Springs if they have the opportunity to activate it there. They're usually really good.

 

[Cj2017]

FWIW - I have gotten the FL passes about 6 times now with my bank statement and an out of state license. Not a single CM has had the slightest problem. I do not recall any other thread where someone has reported having a problem with proof that conforms with the rules (although I've seen some confusion with regard to interpreting the rules particularly as it relates to mortgages). Have the statement, print out a copy of the rules from the Disney site and I'd be willing to bet the next CM has no issue.

I recommend the ticket center at Disney Springs if they have the opportunity to activate it there. They're usually really good.

David was your bank statement from an out of state bank?

 

[DavidNYC]

David was your bank statement from an out of state bank?

TD - but frankly, they looked at it for about 1 second to see the address and names!

 

[StarSeven7]

I think some of the confusion is that technically you're only allowed to be an official resident of one state (or country) regardless of how you actually split your time up. Clearly Disney (and other theme parks) don't care about this since they're allowing people to use "resident" tickets when they're not technically residents, so the confusion is really in the terminology.

 

[xuxa777]

OP, I think they got a misinformed CM and should have asked for a manager.


Now if you do the monthly pay for a FL Annual Pass, then the credit card you use must have a FL address.

This is incorrect you can use a CC with an out of state address, doesn't have to be Florida, for the monthly payments.

 

[yulilin3]

I think some of the confusion is that technically you're only allowed to be an official resident of one state (or country) regardless of how you actually split your time up. Clearly Disney (and other theme parks) don't care about this since they're allowing people to use "resident" tickets when they're not technically residents, so the confusion is really in the terminology.

The question in hand is not what makes someone a resident but what Disney considers a resident. It's pretty clear

 

[bloomcruisers]

We are part timers who just activated our APs at Disney Springs 2 weeks ago. This was our second batch of WDW APs after taking a year to do Sea World Platinum passes. We brought a stack of current utility bills, bank and credit card statements so that we had multiple proofs of FL residency for each name. Probably overkill but I figured better safe than sorry.
We used our passports for our photo IDs so as to not bring any other state into the picture.
The CM checked for the names and addresses and activated the passes with a smile. No problem at all.

 

[Disneypro1]

It is the case. If you dont live here, you arent a resident. There is no gray area. You live here or you dont.

That’s not true. I can live there very part time and be within the rules. Very part time. That’s nothing new.
Who cares who gets a Florida pass anyways. Doesn’t affect me.

 

[HopperFan]

This is incorrect you can use a CC with an out of state address, doesn't have to be Florida, for the monthly payments.

It absolutely refused my credit card with an out of state address, and the message came up telling me that was why my card was being refused. The minute I switched to a card with a FL address it went through. This happened three times on three different APs. Now possibly that is a recent change, my AP just renews on the existing contract so I don't have to re-input.

If that is now true ........... that just reinforces that you can be a resident of another state where you hold your financials and credit cards, and still get the FL Resident APs with your FL address.

 

[xuxa777]

It absolutely refused my credit card with an out of state address, and the message came up telling me that was why my card was being refused. The minute I switched to a card with a FL address it went through. This happened three times on three different APs. Now possibly that is a recent change, my AP just renews on the existing contract so I don't have to re-input.

If that is now true ........... that just reinforces that you can be a resident of another state where you hold your financials and credit cards, and still get the FL Resident APs with your FL address.

As a counter point I haven't had an issue with it in the last ten years

As long as you provide the proof they require listed on the website and copied earlier in this thread you are a "Florida resident" as far as Disney is concerned. They don't care about where you hold financials or anything else etc. or if you are an official state recognized Florida resident.

If Disney only wanted state official Florida residents, it would be very easy, they would require proof to be only a Florida state ID, like Universal does. They obviously made the decision to include split/part time residents/snowbirds etc.

 

[cobright]

Interesting that bank statements are allowed but deeds and leases are not. The former seems easier to fake than the latter.

The problem is that a deed doesn't expire and when you sell your home it becomes invalid but they don't require you to surrender it. So if a deed would suffice for a resident AP, someone who owned a home in FL and sold it could still present their old deed. For other title purposes a deed can be verified through the clerk's office but not in a way that would allow verification on the spot.

It is the case. If you dont live here, you arent a resident. There is no gray area. You live here or you dont.

Seems a weird case to make. For Disney's purposes, owning a residence makes one a resident.

I think some of the confusion is that technically you're only allowed to be an official resident of one state (or country) regardless of how you actually split your time up.

Well with few exceptions you're only supposed to be a citizen of one country at a time but all states recognize multi-state residencies at some point or another (generally when they are trying to attatch for state income tax purposes (https://mbafcpa.com/news/multi-state-residency-need-know/ ).

 

[StarSeven7]

The question in hand is not what makes someone a resident but what Disney considers a resident. It's pretty clear

That's my point - people are using 2 different definitions within this thread.

 

[StarSeven7]

Well with few exceptions you're only supposed to be a citizen of one country at a time but all states recognize multi-state residencies at some point or another (generally when they are trying to attatch for state income tax purposes (https://mbafcpa.com/news/multi-state-residency-need-know/ ).

I definitely know about that! I'm a US citizen but a Canadian resident - and unfortunately I still have to file taxes in both countries!

 

[mountdew1]

Interesting that bank statements are allowed but deeds and leases are not. The former seems easier to fake than the latter.

Because a bank statement or similar shows that you actually are at that location for at least part of the year. The deed simply shows that you own property. You could own property in all 50 states, and rent out the ones in the 49 states you don't live in. While you own property there, you aren't a resident of those 49 states. In theory your mail would usually go to the address where you spend at least 1/2 of the year (183 days) and that is technically where you should be claiming residency. Some states and locations are stricter about this than others, particularly those that have income tax. Some will make you prove that FL (or other states with no income tax) are your actual residency by showing receipts for things like gas and groceries proving you were in FL for those 183 days, and not just owning a house and saying you live there to avoid paying income tax.