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I won’t put a link in it but just google the most horrific example of hate I have ever seen Portland police. A black police officer describing how female police where targeted by blm protestors describing how they would use their police batons to sexually assault them, he also mentioned how weird it was that t racial diversity was on the cops side rather than the protesters who seemed to be mostly white
The way your post is written makes it sound like officers were physically attacked by protesters, so I looked it up and found what you’re referring to. [Quote edited for DIS-friendliness.]

“The crowd keyed in on [two female officers], saying some of the most vile things to them, talking about [ ] assault, about being [assaulted by] other officers," Maxey said. "There was one individual (out of a crowd of 4,500) that said that he was going to take the baton from one of the female officers and [do something not very DIS-friendly]. It was something that is so vile, no one should be exposed to it.”

So, for clarity, some people said some mean things to a couple of officers with one jerk being particularly vulgar. There were no physical attacks and no officers were harmed. No one suffocated to death in a chokehold, died while a grown man knelt on their neck for 9 minutes, was shot and killed during a non-confrontational traffic stop, was shot and killed while sleeping in their bed, was shot to death after being considered an intruder in their own apartment, or was a child shot to death while playing in the park. Fortunately, none of those things happened. But, a few people said some mean things to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings.
 
The way your post is written makes it sound like officers were physically attacked by protesters, so I looked it up and found what you’re referring to. [Quote edited for DIS-friendliness.]

“The crowd keyed in on [two female officers], saying some of the most vile things to them, talking about [ ] assault, about being [assaulted by] other officers," Maxey said. "There was one individual (out of a crowd of 4,500) that said that he was going to take the baton from one of the female officers and [do something not very DIS-friendly]. It was something that is so vile, no one should be exposed to it.”

So, for clarity, some people said some mean things to a couple of officers with one jerk being particularly vulgar. There were no physical attacks and no officers were harmed. No one suffocated to death in a chokehold, died while a grown man knelt on their neck for 9 minutes, was shot and killed during a non-confrontational traffic stop, was shot and killed while sleeping in their bed, was shot to death after being considered an intruder in their own apartment, or was a child shot to death while playing in the park. Fortunately, none of those things happened. But, a few people said some mean things to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings.
You're a real gem.
 
My (black) friend’s daughter was offered a full scholarship. The problem was, it was to a practically all-white college in a part of the country not exactly known for embracing diversity and, as she said, “I just don’t know if I want to spend all day having white people ask to touch my hair.” That’s the crux of it when it comes to these “segregated” college experiences mentioned upthread. Some colleges allow minority-only dorms so the minority students can have a place on campus where they don’t have to exist as the minority. They can be surrounded by people with a similar background, culture, and experiences as themselves, people who are already familiar with what it’s like to be black (or latinx, or Asian, or LGBTQ...), so they don’t have to feel like an outsider or deal with biases or microaggressions in their own home environment. A white roommate might not mean harm when she asks why her black roommate wraps her hair in a scarf before bed or when she expresses surprise that perms do the opposite for black hair than they do for white, but it gets exhausting for the black student to always have to explain what it means to be black. One complaint that I have often seen mentioned by Asian people is the issue surrounding food. They want to eat their traditional dishes in peace without bland-diet Becky sneering and asking “Ew, what is that? Gross!” People don’t want to be “on” all the time, sometimes they just want to relax and surround themselves with people who understand them. This is one reason many of my friends and classmates chose to attend HBCUs. It’s a similar concept to Americans who move abroad and then choose to live in expat communities. People just want to fit in.

The separate graduation ceremonies are optional for students to attend and are held in addition to the school’s official ceremony. Again, this allows for students with similar culture and experience to come together and celebrate in a way that appeals to them, as well as allowing for speakers who can address more specific issues these students will face as they venture out into the world as a [black man, asian-american, undocumented young adult, trans woman...] Segregated freshmen orientations are also a thing, and for the same reasons.

Remember, minorities in this country live in a white-dominated society and they are used to being surrounded by people who are different from them every day, so having a space that embraces and normalizes their way of life is not a bad thing. Would bland-diet Becky benefit from diversifying her friend group and broadening her world view? Probably, but it’s not the asian person’s responsibility to open her mind for her — she needs to take the steps to do that herself. Instead of being outraged that minorities want their own spaces, perhaps white people should be trying to figure out why they might feel like outsiders around us and why they feel they need that escape.

Quick story: I’m white and I spent my childhood and half of my adulthood in majority-black environments. In my late twenties, I was one of a couple white people working in an otherwise all black club. I took one of my white friends to this club on one of my days off to drink and party. We had a great time but afterwards she said to me, “I knew there weren’t going to be a lot of white people there but I didn’t think we were going to be the only white people there.” I was shocked. I realized that was her first time ever having the experience of being the only white person in the room. That was such a foreign concept to me, to think she’d grown up in such a white bubble that she was nearly 30 years old before she’d ever been in the position to be the (almost) only person of her race in the room. I’ve come to realize how common this is in the years since. White people, if you’ve never been the only white person in the room then you haven’t experienced something every minority experiences on a regular basis in this country. Instead of judging their desire for “segregated” dorms or college parties, maybe just extend a little grace and admit you don’t know what it’s like to walk in their shoes.

One last thing that my first paragraph made me think of: I hear lots of arguments about white privilege, what it is, who has it, etc. If you or your child didn’t have to consider how well your race would be welcomed when deciding whether to accept a scholarship or which college to attend, that’s white privilege.
This feels like a step backward to me. What better time to truly learn about people of different races and cultures (both ways) than college? Living with people brings true understanding. And questions are microagressions? It actually makes me really sad to think my daughter wouldn't have one of her best adult friends, her black roommate from college, more than 10 years later. Or my husband, his college roommate from India, also my coworker, who introduced us at his wedding. Or me, my Asian friend who was my office mate at work (And she and I shared food all the time). People want to retreat to their own groups and I feel that this just drives us apart. FYI, all "white" people are not the same, and we all don't share the same diet, customs, and bodies. We all have a lot to learn about each other, regardless of our race.
 
This feels like a step backward to me. What better time to truly learn about people of different races and cultures (both ways) than college? Living with people brings true understanding. And questions are microagressions? It actually makes me really sad to think my daughter wouldn't have one of her best adult friends, her black roommate from college, more than 10 years later. Or my husband, his college roommate from India, also my coworker, who introduced us at his wedding. Or me, my Asian friend who was my office mate at work (And she and I shared food all the time). People want to retreat to their own groups and I feel that this just drives us apart. FYI, all "white" people are not the same, and we all don't share the same diet, customs, and bodies. We all have a lot to learn about each other, regardless of our race.

You completely missed the point. Nobody is advocating the complete separation of any group. However, minority groups need the ability to come together at times to step away from the questions, assumptions, and other daily drains on their day. Sometimes you just want to BE, not the be the lesson for everyone else.
 
This feels like a step backward to me. What better time to truly learn about people of different races and cultures (both ways) than college? Living with people brings true understanding. And questions are microagressions? It actually makes me really sad to think my daughter wouldn't have one of her best adult friends, her black roommate from college, more than 10 years later. Or my husband, his college roommate from India, also my coworker, who introduced us at his wedding. Or me, my Asian friend who was my office mate at work (And she and I shared food all the time). People want to retreat to their own groups and I feel that this just drives us apart. FYI, all "white" people are not the same, and we all don't share the same diet, customs, and bodies. We all have a lot to learn about each other, regardless of our race.

I don't think the previous poster was saying that people should be completely separate or shouldn't be friends. I believe they were saying that sometimes people need a place where they can feel comfortable and be able to fully relax. Obviously not everyone will need the same thing, but for some that may be an "Asian" dorm or an "LGBT" dorm or whatever. These were common when I was in college. As were orientations, activities, and clubs for specific groups of students. All of these were completely optional, but gave people who needed it a place where they could discuss their experiences in a safe environment where they felt understood.

I definitely think it's important to have friends of different backgrounds and cultural exchange is wonderful, but there are some times where it may become overwhelming and you just need some time/space to not have to be "on" all the time. I have had many times where I (straight/white) have been the "outsider" both at home and abroad. Those experiences are valuable to my understanding of other people and the world, but there have definitely been times where it can get exhausting and makes you want to retreat a bit to recharge (especially if you're an introvert who hates attention).

The last time I was in Africa, one of my Rwandan friends casually said something about being happy when you see "your own kind" and began discussing having a natural affinity for them. My husband and I immediately bristled at the idea because it's so ingrained in us that you should never like or prefer people just based on the color of their skin. But to our friend, it was completely natural that you should feel comfortable and have a bond with people who share your cultural background. He believed you should be excited to not be the only minority and that you would feel connected and want to discuss your common experiences. It was an eye-opening conversation, because my gut reaction was that it sounded "racist" but I think he was correct about human nature and the need to feel connected.

There is a frequent feeling when you are immersed in another culture (especially one where you are a different race) where you long for just a few minutes where everyone isn't staring at you or where you can relax and not feel like you're representing your entire culture/race with everything you say or do. I know it's not quite the same thing because the U.S. is more diverse, but I think this is what the previous poster was referencing. Sometimes black students just get tired of being the only black kid in the room, constantly feeling judged for being "too black" or "not black enough" and want to retreat somewhere that they can relax and not feel like an outsider. I don't think they should be made to feel bad for wanting that.
 
This feels like a step backward to me. What better time to truly learn about people of different races and cultures (both ways) than college?

If this is goal, why aren't more white students enrolling in HBCUs? Four years on a black campus is a great way to learn about different races and cultures. Of course that would mean being fully immersed in an environment where you are the minority.
 
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I don't think the previous poster was saying that people should be completely separate or shouldn't be friends. I believe they were saying that sometimes people need a place where they can feel comfortable and be able to fully relax. Obviously not everyone will need the same thing, but for some that may be an "Asian" dorm or an "LGBT" dorm or whatever. These were common when I was in college. As were orientations, activities, and clubs for specific groups of students. All of these were completely optional, but gave people who needed it a place where they could discuss their experiences in a safe environment where they felt understood.

I definitely think it's important to have friends of different backgrounds and cultural exchange is wonderful, but there are some times where it may become overwhelming and you just need some time/space to not have to be "on" all the time. I have had many times where I (straight/white) have been the "outsider" both at home and abroad. Those experiences are valuable to my understanding of other people and the world, but there have definitely been times where it can get exhausting and makes you want to retreat a bit to recharge (especially if you're an introvert who hates attention).

The last time I was in Africa, one of my Rwandan friends casually said something about being happy when you see "your own kind" and began discussing having a natural affinity for them. My husband and I immediately bristled at the idea because it's so ingrained in us that you should never like or prefer people just based on the color of their skin. But to our friend, it was completely natural that you should feel comfortable and have a bond with people who share your cultural background. He believed you should be excited to not be the only minority and that you would feel connected and want to discuss your common experiences. It was an eye-opening conversation, because my gut reaction was that it sounded "racist" but I think he was correct about human nature and the need to feel connected.

There is a frequent feeling when you are immersed in another culture (especially one where you are a different race) where you long for just a few minutes where everyone isn't staring at you or where you can relax and not feel like you're representing your entire culture/race with everything you say or do. I know it's not quite the same thing because the U.S. is more diverse, but I think this is what the previous poster was referencing. Sometimes black students just get tired of being the only black kid in the room, constantly feeling judged for being "too black" or "not black enough" and want to retreat somewhere that they can relax and not feel like an outsider. I don't think they should be made to feel bad for wanting that.
Your story about your Rwandan friends reminds me of two of my own travel stories.

The first is from Kenya. When my husband and I walked down the street, people would smile and wave and call out “Hello, mzungu!” Which, as you might know, means “Hello, white person/foreigner!” We were in fits of giggles every time this happened because there was just no way you would walk through the streets back home calling out people by their race. But to them, they were just being polite. They could see by our skin color that we were foreigners and they wanted to be friendly and make us feel welcome in their country.

The other story is from Japan, where people are decidedly less outgoing when it comes to initiating conversations with foreigners. Everyone was perfectly friendly if you approached them with a question, but it’s not like Kenya where people go out of their way to call out to you from across the street or walk alongside you just to make chitchat. So, it can be much easier to fall into an isolation of just you and your travel partner and I found there, more than anywhere else I’ve been, Americans/English speakers made a point to acknowledge one another. Lots of head turns and hellos brought on when you passed someone on the sidewalk and they recognized hey, you look like me.

So yes, I agree that it’s human nature to feel connected to people who share cultural commonalities.
 
You completely missed the point. Nobody is advocating the complete separation of any group. However, minority groups need the ability to come together at times to step away from the questions, assumptions, and other daily drains on their day. Sometimes you just want to BE, not the be the lesson for everyone else.
Exactly

It gives us an opportunity to not focus on code switching or WEARING THE MASK.


https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2019/12/17/culture-code-switching/
 
The way your post is written makes it sound like officers were physically attacked by protesters, so I looked it up and found what you’re referring to. [Quote edited for DIS-friendliness.]

“The crowd keyed in on [two female officers], saying some of the most vile things to them, talking about [ ] assault, about being [assaulted by] other officers," Maxey said. "There was one individual (out of a crowd of 4,500) that said that he was going to take the baton from one of the female officers and [do something not very DIS-friendly]. It was something that is so vile, no one should be exposed to it.”

So, for clarity, some people said some mean things to a couple of officers with one jerk being particularly vulgar. There were no physical attacks and no officers were harmed. No one suffocated to death in a chokehold, died while a grown man knelt on their neck for 9 minutes, was shot and killed during a non-confrontational traffic stop, was shot and killed while sleeping in their bed, was shot to death after being considered an intruder in their own apartment, or was a child shot to death while playing in the park. Fortunately, none of those things happened. But, a few people said some mean things to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings.
I truly get the point of your post and I appreciate your clarification. But it comes off to me as brushing off threats of sexual assault (much less assault) because the other stuff you mentioned didn't happen (and apologies if that was not your intent). If I was being threatened with sexual assault I don't think what is running through my mind is "oh good at least I'm not being choke held". None of what you described is acceptable but nor is the other. I guess what I'm saying is clarification on what was actually said makes sense but comparing it to other stuff not so much or describing it as "vulgar" or that "some mean things {said} to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings". I am sure police officers (and likely a lot of women) are said some nasty things to them but being threatened with sexual assault at least to me isn't about "hurting my feelings". It's just plain wrong and doesn't need to have other things compared to it to downplay it.

*I am NOT in any way agreeing with the interpretation of the other poster who brought up the situation (as yes it muddies what happened).
 
So, for clarity, some people said some mean things to a couple of officers with one jerk being particularly vulgar. There were no physical attacks and no officers were harmed. No one suffocated to death in a chokehold, died while a grown man knelt on their neck for 9 minutes, was shot and killed during a non-confrontational traffic stop, was shot and killed while sleeping in their bed, was shot to death after being considered an intruder in their own apartment, or was a child shot to death while playing in the park. Fortunately, none of those things happened. But, a few people said some mean things to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings.
So as long as nobody dies during confrontations, it doesn't count?

Your logic is not only flawed, it's dangerous...and not just for the police.

There was also ONLY ONE person who poured white paint over an elderly white woman trying to stop rioters. And another ONE person who prevented an elderly woman using a walker from trying to extinguish a fire the rioters started.

Take a good look at the photo of the courageous social justice warriors confronting the woman who got doused with paint. Both examples are in the story I posted above.

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You also ignored the fact that those same protesters, that same night in exactly the same location, put a police office in ICU by striking him in the head with a large rock or chunk of concrete.

But he hasn't died -- so no harm, no foul for you?
 
I truly get the point of your post and I appreciate your clarification. But it comes off to me as brushing off threats of sexual assault (much less assault) because the other stuff you mentioned didn't happen (and apologies if that was not your intent). If I was being threatened with sexual assault I don't think what is running through my mind is "oh good at least I'm not being choke held". None of what you described is acceptable but nor is the other. I guess what I'm saying is clarification on what was actually said makes sense but comparing it to other stuff not so much or describing it as "vulgar" or that "some mean things {said} to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings". I am sure police officers (and likely a lot of women) are said some nasty things to them but being threatened with sexual assault at least to me isn't about "hurting my feelings". It's just plain wrong and doesn't need to have other things compared to it to downplay it.

*I am NOT in any way agreeing with the interpretation of the other poster who brought up the situation (as yes it muddies what happened).
Those threats against police officers reflect quite accurately on the people making the threats.

I'm sure the officers were thinking, "If you think you are man enough -- try it, and let us know how that works out for you."

Officers get called all sorts of thing by all sorts of low-lifes. You just consider the source and chuckle about it afterwards. No officers' psyches were damaged by playground chatter.
 
I truly get the point of your post and I appreciate your clarification. But it comes off to me as brushing off threats of sexual assault (much less assault) because the other stuff you mentioned didn't happen (and apologies if that was not your intent). If I was being threatened with sexual assault I don't think what is running through my mind is "oh good at least I'm not being choke held". None of what you described is acceptable but nor is the other. I guess what I'm saying is clarification on what was actually said makes sense but comparing it to other stuff not so much or describing it as "vulgar" or that "some mean things {said} to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings". I am sure police officers (and likely a lot of women) are said some nasty things to them but being threatened with sexual assault at least to me isn't about "hurting my feelings". It's just plain wrong and doesn't need to have other things compared to it to downplay it.

*I am NOT in any way agreeing with the interpretation of the other poster who brought up the situation (as yes it muddies what happened).
The poster who brought this into the conversation described it as “the most horrific example of hate [she] had ever seen,” and when I first read her account of what happened, I thought “Omg, that’s horrible!” When I looked it up to get more detail, it turns out there was absolutely no physical violence perpetrated against any officers. There were angry protesters shouting nasty things at them with one protester being exceptionally vulgar (I use the word vulgar because it was.) The things they were saying were not acceptable and if there’s a law on the books that would allow for charges to be brought against the man who was making specific threats, I would support that.

But, can we also keep some perspective here? Every job has an unpleasant side to it and most carry at least some risk. Hospital workers deal with angry and/or violent patients who lash out at them. Teachers deal with misbehavior that can sometimes escalate to violence. Animal control officers are routinely scratched and bitten. Firefighters run into burning buildings and military personnel and journalists may find themselves in war zones. Yes, we should absolutely do what we can to keep people safe on the job but there’s always going to be some risk. When you’re a cop and your job is to deal with the public at large in all their gross, grimey, stupid, violent, drug-fueled glory, you’ve got to expect you’re going to deal with some unpleasant crap. My father walked around for 50-some years with a rather large, ugly circular scar on his arm from where a suspect bit him during an arrest. He didn’t snivel and whine and get all into his feelings about the bad guy who bit him — he chalked it up to a hazard of the job that he signed up to do. I would think that of all the garbage a LEO has to deal with, protesters yelling in your face — while you’re armed and backed by hoards of other officers — is something you shrug off. The added layer of insult a female officer has do deal with is unacceptable, of course, but until our society learns to do better, it’s reality. Geez, you should hear some of the disgusting things men have said to me in bars, walking down the street, minding my business in the grocery store...

Yes, it was a gross verbal attack but at the end of the day it was just words. And since the PP had said it was the most horrific thing she had ever seen, I wanted to put it in perspective of what’s being protested here — innocent people being violently killed all around this country which, to me, is far worse than being yelled at (if we’re rating horrific things, that is).
 
Everyone has a breaking point. Those officers appear close to it
"Breaking" is not usually the problem in the short term. Sometimes PTSD is a big problem after the riots are over, but usually not during the turmoil.

The more immediate effects on officers and departments are:
  • Actual injuries and sickness (especially Covid in this environment)
  • Significant attritionfor the departments caused by fed-up officers either leaving for other agencies or seeking new careers. Both Seattle and Minneapolis are having big problems with attrition.
    • My old department here in Miami has received applications from numerous officers from both departments, and is processing several from Seattle.
    • I'm sure Portland will be right behind as soon as things calm down.
  • Breakdown in mutual aid. Police departments, like fire departments, typically work together in large scale situations like riots, major community events, natural disasters, etc.
    • But there have been many, many situations where other departments have declined to provide mutual aid in the current environment. For example, more than 100 WI police departments have declined mutual aid requests from Milwaukee PD for the upcoming Democratic convention. Also dozens of departments in the Atlanta area have declined mutual aid requests from the Atlanta PD.
    • The result of those refusals is a reduction in public safety for people living in the city being denied mutual aid.
  • "Low-risk behavior." Police work at the patrol level is the most important work any department does -- and it is overwhelmingly self-initiated. The outstanding officers are the self-starters who are constantly active -- talking to residents, patrolling neighborhoods, developing informants, making arrests, responding quickly and effectively to calls for service, etc.
    • That initiative is optional. When doing your job entails greater risk of complaints or being put in critical situations, initiative fades and officers take the safe route designed to just get by and go home at the end of the shift.
    • This low-risk behavior is showing up in a huge way in NYC, Chicago, and the areas which have had riots. Enforcement has ground to a halt, and both violent and property crime have increased.
 
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So as long as nobody dies during confrontations, it doesn't count?

Your logic is not only flawed, it's dangerous...and not just for the police.

There was also ONLY ONE person who poured white paint over an elderly white woman trying to stop rioters. And another ONE person who prevented an elderly woman using a walker from trying to extinguish a fire the rioters started.

Take a good look at the photo of the courageous social justice warriors confronting the woman who got doused with paint. Both examples are in the story I posted above.

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You also ignored the fact that those same protesters, that same night in exactly the same location, put a police office in ICU by striking him in the head with a large rock or chunk of concrete.

But he hasn't died -- so no harm, no foul for you?
Those are some giant leaps you’re taking in your assumptions. I was talking about the one specific incident where protesters were yelling at two officers. The PP described it as “the most horrific” and I was reminding her that there are things far worse, such as people losing their lives. As well, I would include anything that crosses the line into physical violence, like your examples above.
 
The poster who brought this into the conversation described it as “the most horrific example of hate [she] had ever seen,” and when I first read her account of what happened, I thought “Omg, that’s horrible!” When I looked it up to get more detail, it turns out there was absolutely no physical violence perpetrated against any officers. There were angry protesters shouting nasty things at them with one protester being exceptionally vulgar (I use the word vulgar because it was.) The things they were saying were not acceptable and if there’s a law on the books that would allow for charges to be brought against the man who was making specific threats, I would support that.

But, can we also keep some perspective here? Every job has an unpleasant side to it and most carry at least some risk. Hospital workers deal with angry and/or violent patients who lash out at them. Teachers deal with misbehavior that can sometimes escalate to violence. Animal control officers are routinely scratched and bitten. Firefighters run into burning buildings and military personnel and journalists may find themselves in war zones. Yes, we should absolutely do what we can to keep people safe on the job but there’s always going to be some risk. When you’re a cop and your job is to deal with the public at large in all their gross, grimey, stupid, violent, drug-fueled glory, you’ve got to expect you’re going to deal with some unpleasant crap. My father walked around for 50-some years with a rather large, ugly circular scar on his arm from where a suspect bit him during an arrest. He didn’t snivel and whine and get all into his feelings about the bad guy who bit him — he chalked it up to a hazard of the job that he signed up to do. I would think that of all the garbage a LEO has to deal with, protesters yelling in your face — while you’re armed and backed by hoards of other officers — is something you shrug off. The added layer of insult a female officer has do deal with is unacceptable, of course, but until our society learns to do better, it’s reality. Geez, you should hear some of the disgusting things men have said to me in bars, walking down the street, minding my business in the grocery store...

Yes, it was a gross verbal attack but at the end of the day it was just words. And since the PP had said it was the most horrific thing she had ever seen, I wanted to put it in perspective of what’s being protested here — innocent people being violently killed all around this country which, to me, is far worse than being yelled at (if we’re rating horrific things, that is).
I said I wasn't agreeing with the other poster. I appreciate you responding to me but I was actually responding to your words and your words alone :flower3:

I appreciate this part of your other post:
“The crowd keyed in on [two female officers], saying some of the most vile things to them, talking about [ ] assault, about being [assaulted by] other officers," Maxey said. "There was one individual (out of a crowd of 4,500) that said that he was going to take the baton from one of the female officers and [do something not very DIS-friendly]. It was something that is so vile, no one should be exposed to it.”

However I was speaking towards this part of your post:
So, for clarity, some people said some mean things to a couple of officers with one jerk being particularly vulgar. There were no physical attacks and no officers were harmed. No one suffocated to death in a chokehold, died while a grown man knelt on their neck for 9 minutes, was shot and killed during a non-confrontational traffic stop, was shot and killed while sleeping in their bed, was shot to death after being considered an intruder in their own apartment, or was a child shot to death while playing in the park. Fortunately, none of those things happened. But, a few people said some mean things to the officers and that probably really hurt their feelings.

The first part was just a factual account, the second part was your viewpoint on the matter and we're not talking about how the female police officer felt about those things being said. I'm sure she understands treatment (which I spoke to in my comment to you). I was more talking about the perception/viewpoint you had of the situation.

I'm aware of what is said to women unfortunately. Again if I'm threatened with sexual assault (which I have been more than once more than just a few times), I've been in situations where my safety was at risk, I'm been a victim and at that moment I was not thinking "No one suffocated to death in a chokehold, died while a grown man knelt on their neck for 9 minutes, was shot and killed during a non-confrontational traffic stop, was shot and killed while sleeping in their bed, was shot to death after being considered an intruder in their own apartment, or was a child shot to death while playing in the park." Not in the least. Those things are terrible but so is the other things. We don't need at all "well at least it wasn't..."

But again I said apologies if that wasn't your intent :flower3:
 
Officers get called all sorts of thing by all sorts of low-lifes. You just consider the source and chuckle about it afterwards. No officers' psyches were damaged by playground chatter.
Actually, this was my point right here. You and I are in agreement.
 
Those are some giant leaps you’re taking in your assumptions. I was talking about the one specific incident where protesters were yelling at two officers. The PP described it as “the most horrific” and I was reminding her that there are things far worse, such as people losing their lives. As well, I would include anything that crosses the line into physical violence, like your examples above.
Naw...you were trying to pretend that is was just an isolated, unimportant act that was not representative of the general rioting that occurred, and continues to occur. The events clearly indicate otherwise.
 
Naw...you were trying to pretend that is was just an isolated, unimportant act that was not representative of the general rioting that occurred, and continues to occur. The events clearly indicate otherwise.
It was an event I hadn’t even heard about until the other poster brought it to this thread, describing it in a way that made it sound like female officers had been violently and grotesquely brutalized by an angry mob. As it turns out, nothing remotely close to that took place in the story the PP was referencing. The whole thing started and ended with words which, you’re right, I do consider that rather unimportant when looking at the big picture of what’s going on. But then, I’ve always been a “sticks and stones” kind of gal.
 
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