ROFR Thread January to March 2021 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Paul Stupin]

Well Riveria is very nice and if you like it you have to give into the restrictions. 2042 will be a bad year I think as I do agree Disney will stick it to resale owners. All the other benefits for direct mentioned are not contracted so they could pull at anytime which means the extra money is risky. Of course it's unique buying situations for everyone but hard for me to validate but please don't feel I am insulting you and others. I guess I just phrased it too aggressively ha. The spread between resale and direct is so large it definitely is a problem for DVC new sales though.

Agreed that the point spread is indeed a problem for direct sales. Though I'm well aware that all the blue card benefits are not contracted, I don't feel Disney can diminish them right now, because it will further impact direct sales at a time when they can't afford that to happen. Also, no one takes into account potentially impactful new benefits Disney will no doubt add in the future. If direct sales continue to be problematic, they might very well be motivated to come up with unanticipated new benefits members can and will enjoy. What if they added an even larger AP discount? That could make a huge difference. Also, with my direct points, no, I don't have to give in to the Riviera restrictions. I'm free to book it at 7 months even though I wouldn't buy it as a home resort (due to the restrictions).

Though I know its debatable, its not impossible that resale prices will trend down the closer we get to 2042.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Paul Stupin---$133-$20615-150-CCV@WL-Mar-0/20, 0/21, 85/22, 150/23- sent 2/14

 

[hilltopper152]

Agreed that the point spread is indeed a problem for direct sales. Though I'm well aware that all the blue card benefits are not contracted, I don't feel Disney can diminish them right now, because it will further impact direct sales at a time when they can't afford that to happen. Also, no one takes into account potentially impactful new benefits Disney will no doubt add in the future. If direct sales continue to be problematic, they might very well be motivated to come up with unanticipated new benefits members can and will enjoy. What if they added an even larger AP discount? That could make a huge difference. Also, with my direct points, no, I don't have to give in to the Riviera restrictions. I'm free to book it at 7 months even though I wouldn't buy it as a home resort (due to the restrictions).

Though I know its debatable, its not impossible that resale prices will trend down the closer we get to 2042.

I am just saying I wouldn't even pay $100 per point for RR if it was offered on resale because of the restrictions it would give me so naturally it has less value because lack of value on the back end. The direct buyer doesn't see that issue until they sell which everyone assumes they won't initially. I do feel you are right that as 2042 approaches we will see a major crash in DVC value as they are intentionally planning from my point of view. But that would mean they forgot what made DVC the timeshare it is today... Value for the long term which includes owning a product that doesn't depreciate instantly. DVC is selling that resort slow for a reason and I believe it is because of people like me see it differently.

 

[EmilyDisFan]

Paul Stupin---$133-$20615-150-CCV@WL-Mar-0/20, 0/21, 85/22, 150/23- sent 2/14

Very nice price per point!! I've sent offers for a few CCV contracts (100-125 points) in the last week or so and can't seem to get anywhere close to this price...even when stripped. I'm not going to give up! The hunt continues! (While I am also on day 23 of waiting for ROFR on my AKV contract.)

 

[PearlyJoy]

PearlyJoy---$141-$12494-80-BWV-Apr-26/20, 80/21, 80/22- sent 1/31

Closing and 2021 MF are included in our total cost. Fingers crossed. Seller only entertained full asking price. I feel this price was high considering how much better the BWV prices are these days in resale. But I wanted APR and I wanted 80 points. So the price had to give.

APR seems to be an uncommon UY. Not many contracts show up.

 

[chilledsugar]

PearlyJoy---$141-$12494-80-BWV-Apr-26/20, 80/21, 80/22- sent 1/31

Closing and 2021 MF are included in our total cost. Fingers crossed. Seller only entertained full asking price. I feel this price was high considering how much better the BWV prices are these days in resale. But I wanted APR and I wanted 80 points. So the price had to give.

Wish you luck! We’re in a similar boat. 50 points at BWV for $143 (awaiting ROFR) and I agree it feels a little high based on what I’ve been seeing. But the seller agreed to pay ‘21 MF and it’s a small point contract. It was also in our UY and at the end of the day, it’s what we wanted, so no regrets!

 

[CSLucas]

Still waiting on this one

Bobby2443---$160-$85000-500-VGF-Apr-0/19, 500/20, 500/21, 500/22- sent 1/27

I'm still waiting on my VGF send on 1/23 so I hope we both hear this week! I was surprised mine is taking so long because the price per point is pretty high ($12/pt higher than my other one that passed last week)

 

[Paul Stupin]

Very nice price per point!! I've sent offers for a few CCV contracts (100-125 points) in the last week or so and can't seem to get anywhere close to this price...even when stripped. I'm not going to give up! The hunt continues! (While I am also on day 23 of waiting for ROFR on my AKV contract.)

Thanks! And keep us posted on the hunt!

 

[Paul Stupin]

PearlyJoy---$141-$12494-80-BWV-Apr-26/20, 80/21, 80/22- sent 1/31

Closing and 2021 MF are included in our total cost. Fingers crossed. Seller only entertained full asking price. I feel this price was high considering how much better the BWV prices are these days in resale. But I wanted APR and I wanted 80 points. So the price had to give.

APR seems to be an uncommon UY. Not many contracts show up.

I’ve found the same is true for March UY as well.

 

[Cartman3132]

I'm feeling like this week's gonna be a week.....the ROFR office is gonna fire off these contracts like Seabiscuit and everyone's passing.

 

[vicarrieous]

I'm feeling like this week's gonna be a week.....the ROFR office is gonna fire off these contracts like Seabiscuit and everyone's passing.

YES! I am crossing my fingers!

 

[Sandisw]

Well Riveria is very nice and if you like it you have to give into the restrictions. 2042 will be a bad year I think as I do agree Disney will stick it to resale owners. All the other benefits for direct mentioned are not contracted so they could pull at anytime which means the extra money is risky. Of course it's unique buying situations for everyone but hard for me to validate but please don't feel I am insulting you and others. I guess I just phrased it too aggressively ha. The spread between resale and direct is so large it definitely is a problem for DVC new sales though.

You do have to decide if resale vs. direct is worth it and I think right now, its not as much about the blue card, but about RIV and future resorts and is it worth it to have something that can be used easily...maybe not today, but in 10 years from now when new resorts come online.

Yes, the blue card can make it worth it for the AP discount, and depending on family size, it may not take long to make up the differences. But, there is more to it than that. We love RIV, own restricted points we bought this summer, and regret doing it. I should have spent the $1500 to get SSR direct points to use at 7 months at RIV with the other 200 SSR points I have in that UY that are eligible.

Honestly, though, the average DVC buyer who buys onsite is not in turn to resale like people here and I think when things are back to normal, they will be able to sell.

But, if RIV isn't important to someone, and someone cares about restrictions, than it is hard to justify the extra.

 

[JC1984]

I'm feeling like this week's gonna be a week.....the ROFR office is gonna fire off these contracts like Seabiscuit and everyone's passing.

 

[hilltopper152]

You do have to decide if resale vs. direct is worth it and I think right now, its not as much about the blue card, but about RIV and future resorts and is it worth it to have something that can be used easily...maybe not today, but in 10 years from now when new resorts come online.

Yes, the blue card can make it worth it for the AP discount, and depending on family size, it may not take long to make up the differences. But, there is more to it than that. We love RIV, own restricted points we bought this summer, and regret doing it. I should have spent the $1500 to get SSR direct points to use at 7 months at RIV with the other 200 SSR points I have in that UY that are eligible.

Honestly, though, the average DVC buyer who buys onsite is not in turn to resale like people here and I think when things are back to normal, they will be able to sell.

But, if RIV isn't important to someone, and someone cares about restrictions, than it is hard to justify the extra.

Great points and hard for me to regret the future just yet but I will be sore when they make some big changes in the boardwalk area that do not allow me to use points there. Maybe money will be less scarce for me at that point and I can buy direct without feeling as guilty haha.

 

[Sunnyore]

That's not good news for me as a buyer trying to get in of course. The direct market is stupid to me. Sorry if that offends someone but it does nothing for me. I guess there is always a sucker willing to pay for the dramatic price bump for non contracted benefits at these older resorts. Maybe DVC is realizing they should have embraced resale years ago.

I was just down at disney in mid Jan and they told me no tours are going on and it's all virtual. Had no interest in really offering resorts that aren't newer. I'm sure they are based on what everyone is saying.

Hi! I'm one of the suckers you speak of. Also bought BLT direct too. I shall contemplate the amount of money I wasted as I sip on a soda in the Epcot owner's lounge in 2 week.

In seriousness though, I'm a new owner and my first contract was a resale. It didn't sit well with me that I couldn't book at Riviera or possibly any future DVCs being built. I regret not buying 10 years ago, or even 2-3 years ago as the price just keeping hiking up. I'm buying for long term with no plans to sell (of course things change) and so I decided I wanted some non restricted points. Bit the bullet and so far no regrets. It was helpful that I got to buy a DVC gold pass so I'm getting some of the benefits of the blue card. Now I'm back to looking to add on resale for the money saving aspect. I will add getting outbid by others for the rare use year contract isn't very fun for me. But now I have enough points to use so there's no urgency which helps.

 

[hilltopper152]

Hi! I'm one of the suckers you speak of. Also bought BLT direct too. I shall contemplate the amount of money I wasted as I sip on a soda in the Epcot owner's lounge in 2 week.

In seriousness though, I'm a new owner and my first contract was a resale. It didn't sit well with me that I couldn't book at Riviera or possibly any future DVCs being built. I regret not buying 10 years ago, or even 2-3 years ago as the price just keeping hiking up. I'm buying for long term with no plans to sell (of course things change) and so I decided I wanted some non restricted points. Bit the bullet and so far no regrets. It was helpful that I got to buy a DVC gold pass so I'm getting some of the benefits of the blue card. Now I'm back to looking to add on resale for the money saving aspect. I will add getting outbid by others for the rare use year contract isn't very fun for me. But now I have enough points to use so there's no urgency which helps.

Having tons of points is always a good thing! A lot more freedom for sure and enjoy the trip!

 

[dischris11]

Is anyone concerned about the 2022 point chart and the extra points in it? I was looking very seriously at buying my first contract but I'm concerned that DVC seems to be playing with points in a way they shouldn't be (increasing them in one part of the calendar but not decreasing them in another).

 

[Disneytrippin']

I'm feeling like this week's gonna be a week.....the ROFR office is gonna fire off these contracts like Seabiscuit and everyone's passing.

My contract is no longer showing as pending sale on dvcresalemarket site. What does that mean.. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN! I can't take it anymore......!!!!!! * breaths into paper bag

 

[kes601]

My contract is no longer showing as pending sale on dvcresalemarket site. What does that mean.. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN! I can't take it anymore......!!!!!! * breaths into paper bag

We’ve been told it means absolutely nothing. It happened to us on Saturday which happened to be 10 days after the contact was sent to ROFR. We had the same reaction as you

We did notice that the contract says you have 10 days to opt out, so it could have to do with that timing.

 

[gisele2]

Any news from the Valentine guy ?