Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[osufeth24]

Recently released data indicates that the virus is more contagious than previously thought. It was thought the reproductive number (R0) was 2.2 - 2.7 but new research indicates it's actually 5.7. That number is pretty close to the contagiousness level of smallpox, which is between 5 and 7.

Here's a link to the CDC report, which indicates that due to these new numbers, a population would have to have 82% immunity through vaccination or previous infection to achieve herd immunity, which I think unfortunately means it's going to be a while until Disney can open again:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

https://twitter.com/x/status/1248132404885073920

 

[Farro]

Economy is going to be the deciding factor for a time frame......not the virus.

I think it will be fear of public perception that is going to be the deciding factor. And that's unfortunate.

 

[rteetz]

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/...source=facebook.com&utm_content=fb-ocregister

 

[jerry557]

Recently released data indicates that the virus is more contagious than previously thought. It was thought the reproductive number (R0) was 2.2 - 2.7 but new research indicates it's actually 5.7. That number is pretty close to the contagiousness level of smallpox, which is between 5 and 7.

Here's a link to the CDC report, which indicates that due to these new numbers, a population would have to have 82% immunity through vaccination or previous infection to achieve herd immunity, which I think unfortunately means it's going to be a while until Disney can open again:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

So what if we don't find a vaccine? Does Disney never reopen?

I've said it before, but if the country stays shut down like that is for 2 years, it's going to cause major major problems that may be worse than the virus. There is going to have to be a balance.

 

[wallawallakids]

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/...source=facebook.com&utm_content=fb-ocregister

That area is such a bottleneck. I think this will be great, but I am sure some will be sad to have a new sign. I assume this will be like what they did in Adventureland but I hope with a nicer new sign~.

 

[karen4546]

We are going to keep a central place for updates regarding the parks going forward. Any official word from Disney will be posted here and in this first post.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/questions-about-coronavirus-covid19/
As of March 14th, Disneyland and California Adventure will close to guests.

As of March 16th, Disneyland Resort hotels will close to guests.

https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/disney-theme-park-closed-coronavirus-1203531795/
https://disneyland.disney.go.com/travel-information/
Broadway Venues Close Amid Coronavirus Pandemic, Cancelling Disney on Broadway Performances

https://blogmickey.com/2020/03/simp...2h2MbFMtJ2K_kwI7zK83LmhTt3JLR4GVGak7Oc80iEBds
https://blogmickey.com/2020/03/7-re...dly-in-quarantine-due-to-coronavirus-covid-19
As of March 15th Walt Disney World Parks will close. Hotels and Disney Springs to remain open.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1238256920361869314

Disney Cruise Line and Disneyland Paris also to face closures.

https://www.wdwmagic.com/other/walt...e-parks-march-15-through-the-end-of-march.htm

https://twitter.com/x/status/1238267648120676358

https://twitter.com/x/status/1238271013789392896

https://twitter.com/x/status/1238476665698824192

https://blogmickey.com/2020/03/disn...J1B8h7R_tj-enIInb0Dk5i2V3eG2kosG-23vAGb1I2uFk
Walt Disney World Resort to Continue Offering Select Transportation Options Through the End of March

https://blogmickey.com/2020/03/tabl...l4YpbUKF7B1wzJNP89TQPRS4V1zp9--mJjArdxVhligVs
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...d-harvest-food-bank-during-temporary-closure/
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...onating-excess-food-during-temporary-closure/
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https://variety.com/2020/film/news/...tctF5-W7jD_L8F7lNpd_GLB0Y56uFaqeS--fL-Pi_qltc
https://www.clickorlando.com/entert...l-closing-citywalk-hotels-due-to-coronavirus/
https://blogmickey.com/2020/03/home...6MSoL4tP9rl7mTxYWw738xBkJIYU1c1PbmTDLsL4LQMyE
Disney's Hilton Head Island Resort to Close Friday, March 20 Due to Coronavirus Concerns

Disney's Magical Express to Cease Motorcoach Operation this Friday at Walt Disney World

Walt Disney World Transportation to Cease Operations Tonight at 11 p.m.

runDisney Cancels 2020 Star Wars Rival Run Weekend Races

Adventures by Disney Final Payment Extended for Select Summer 2020 Adventures

The Wheel, Madame Tussauds, and Sea Life Aquarium Closing Temporarily Due to Coronavirus Outbreak

LEGOLAND Florida Extends Temporary Closure of its Theme Park and Water Park Through April 14

Give Kids the World Village to Remain Closed Through April 19, 2020

SeaWorld Parks & Resorts in Florida to Remain Closed Until Further Notice

Thanks to EVERYONE who actually posts about the original topic of Walt Disney World and Disneyland UPDATES and CLOSURES due to Covid-19.

 

[fsjking]

Recently released data indicates that the virus is more contagious than previously thought. It was thought the reproductive number (R0) was 2.2 - 2.7 but new research indicates it's actually 5.7. That number is pretty close to the contagiousness level of smallpox, which is between 5 and 7.

Here's a link to the CDC report, which indicates that due to these new numbers, a population would have to have 82% immunity through vaccination or previous infection to achieve herd immunity, which I think unfortunately means it's going to be a while until Disney can open again:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

While recently released, that uses Chinese numbers and references a whole lot of January dates. I'd put that up there with China's 80k sick and 3k deaths on confidence in accuracy.

 

[TomServo27]

Interesting technology for scanning body temperature. Wonder if Disney is looking into using something like this.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-coro...asses-ai-body-temperature-fever-1494481?amp=1

 

[Jrb1979]

So what if we don't find a vaccine? Does Disney never reopen?

I've said it before, but if the country stays shut down like that is for 2 years, it's going to cause major major problems that may be worse than the virus. There is going to have to be a balance.

There will be a balance. They will slowly open things up with theme parks being the last to do so. The country won't stay shut down for 2 years.

 

[TDSAXX]

Recently released data indicates that the virus is more contagious than previously thought. It was thought the reproductive number (R0) was 2.2 - 2.7 but new research indicates it's actually 5.7. That number is pretty close to the contagiousness level of smallpox, which is between 5 and 7.

Here's a link to the CDC report, which indicates that due to these new numbers, a population would have to have 82% immunity through vaccination or previous infection to achieve herd immunity, which I think unfortunately means it's going to be a while until Disney can open again:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

If that number is accurate (and I’m not convinced that it is) then that probably means a much higher percentage of the population has already been exposed to it.

 

[mmackeymouse]

I know that conventional wisdom is that Disney Springs will open first, but honestly I see Disney Springs as just as much of a hazard as anything else. Do you know how many times I pick something up that someone else has picked up in the park? Rarely. Occasionally, maybe. Do you know how many times I pick something up that someone else has touched at Disney Springs? All the freaking time. Every 5 seconds. Think about shirt hangers that others have touched. Salt and pepper shakers. There is no way to sanitize every single item and every single hanger and every single doorknob between shoppers at Disney Springs.

Think about the Lego Store, Pin Trading, All of the many, many, many ornaments in the Christmas Shoppe. The princess statues that people will take pictures with and inevitably put their hands on. And, with the number of restaurants and kiosks there, as compared with one of the parks, it makes policing and monitoring every single transaction nearly impossible. Add to that when DS is crowded, it is crazy crowded and there isn't much way to enforce any sort of reduced capacity the same way there is in the parks.

I think a lot of this stuff is on individuals to do the right thing and do the smart thing. And I am all for personal responsibility. But, all it takes is one person to put their hand on a counter somewhere, and then 4 or 5 other people to put their hand in the same spot and maybe wipe their sweaty eyes and...then it starts.

I just see DS as more difficult to enforce changes. Am I crazy?

 

[Sunelis]

Another Canadian here... I have a June 7th check-in planned way before this whole COVID stuff. If by some miracle Disney opens and the parks are operational, my concern would be getting to WDW. I'm in Montreal and planning to drive so that implies crossing a national border and then NY/NJ/MD/VA/NC/SC/GA just to get to Fla. So if any of those states are still in lock down I assume I'm out of luck. Anyway not getting my hopes up even if I did my FP selections yesterday.

 

[halfpintpeggy]

Another Canadian here... I have a June 7th check-in planned way before this whole COVID stuff. If by some miracle Disney opens and the parks are operational, my concern would be getting to WDW. I'm in Montreal and planning to drive so that implies crossing a national border and then NY/NJ/MD/VA/NC/SC/GA just to get to Fla. So if any of those states are still in lock down I assume I'm out of luck. Anyway not getting my hopes up even if I did my FP selections yesterday.

Will you be making lots of stops within the states you’re driving through? I think you’ll be just fine!

 

[Jrb1979]

Another Canadian here... I have a June 7th check-in planned way before this whole COVID stuff. If by some miracle Disney opens and the parks are operational, my concern would be getting to WDW. I'm in Montreal and planning to drive so that implies crossing a national border and then NY/NJ/MD/VA/NC/SC/GA just to get to Fla. So if any of those states are still in lock down I assume I'm out of luck. Anyway not getting my hopes up even if I did my FP selections yesterday.

I have a feeling the border is on the list of last things opening up. Especially considering they figure this is lasting til summer.

 

[SgtTibbs]

Interesting technology for scanning body temperature. Wonder if Disney is looking into using something like this.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-coro...asses-ai-body-temperature-fever-1494481?amp=1

While some will, most people with active symptoms like fever won't be going to theme parks. Temperature sensors do not catch people that are asymptomatic. So I question to worth of implementing this at Disney. I think it's a better option for airports and train stations where people are more likely to travel while sick (ie trying to get home).

 

[Jrb1979]

yes....you get what you pay for. The few times that I have not been satisfied with something in regards to WDW the have made it right. I love it. I would rather go to WDW than anywhere else in the USA.

I am just the opposite but that's cause I go to parks for high thrilling rides. I would rather ride a 300 foot coaster that goes 95 mph then ride Haunted Mansion

 

[Jroceagles]

So what if we don't find a vaccine? Does Disney never reopen?

I've said it before, but if the country stays shut down like that is for 2 years, it's going to cause major major problems that may be worse than the virus. There is going to have to be a balance.

2 years ...2 more months and you will see ramifications that will outweigh this virus

 

[mshanson3121]

2 years ...2 more months and you will see ramifications that will outweigh this virus

No, you won't. Seriously admins, you need to shut down this hysteria. 2-3 months, 6 months of a shut down/economic downturn will not cause more deaths and severe lasting health effects than opening back up too soon. Study the great depression, past recessions - outside of a bit of an increase in suicides, death rates DROPPED. So despite the increase in suicides, there were less heart attacks, less accidents, less illness related deaths, resulting in an overall drop in rate of death. In contrast, deaths actually increase during times of economic expansion.

 

[fsjking]

I know that conventional wisdom is that Disney Springs will open first, but honestly I see Disney Springs as just as much of a hazard as anything else. Do you know how many times I pick something up that someone else has picked up in the park? Rarely. Occasionally, maybe. Do you know how many times I pick something up that someone else has touched at Disney Springs? All the freaking time. Every 5 seconds. Think about shirt hangers that others have touched. Salt and pepper shakers. There is no way to sanitize every single item and every single hanger and every single doorknob between shoppers at Disney Springs.

Think about the Lego Store, Pin Trading, All of the many, many, many ornaments in the Christmas Shoppe. The princess statues that people will take pictures with and inevitably put their hands on. And, with the number of restaurants and kiosks there, as compared with one of the parks, it makes policing and monitoring every single transaction nearly impossible. Add to that when DS is crowded, it is crazy crowded and there isn't much way to enforce any sort of reduced capacity the same way there is in the parks.

I think a lot of this stuff is on individuals to do the right thing and do the smart thing. And I am all for personal responsibility. But, all it takes is one person to put their hand on a counter somewhere, and then 4 or 5 other people to put their hand in the same spot and maybe wipe their sweaty eyes and...then it starts.

I just see DS as more difficult to enforce changes. Am I crazy?

Every time you get on a ride you touch something many people just touched.

 

[TropicalDIS]

The Universal news is huge. Pretty much guarantees that we won't see Disney opening in May. June 1st is the next big date, so we will see. My bet is still on July 1st.