wildflower329
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- May 22, 2013
I thought the exact same things when I read that article.Have to agree this does zilch to hurt Harbor.
I thought the exact same things when I read that article.Have to agree this does zilch to hurt Harbor.
I think the original pic may be wrong. That looks to be the new parking garage.What is the big glass building behind Paradise Pier where the parking lot is now?
I've got a lot of thoughts on this.
1. DLR desperately needs a third park to deal with the stupid-crazy crowds they now have. .... And they build another hotel. Brilliant!!! That'll make EMH absolutely worthless.
2. I do love that at WDW, there's a bubble from all the Disney hotels. Will this bring that bubble feeling to DLR??? Or is it just adding more rooms that we'll NEVER EVER be able to afford?
3. They're taking out Rainforest Cafe??? I really hate this. That's a must do on nearly every trip we take. The food is better than most everything inside a Disney park (not hard), and they do theming there that's better than most DL restaurants. (And Earl was a fave before Celiac disease - hate this for everyone)
4. This will make the DLH a second tier hotel - though the prices will never reflect that. With completely blocked views of the park, and a blocked walk to the parks, DLH should see prices fall to PPH levels. But you know it never will.
5. With 4 hotels, will Disneyland now switch to the WDW method of FPs and allow their hotel guests to book FPs 30-60 days in advance? I'd like to think they wouldn't, but I'd bet money that they will.
6. Could they have at least themed it? I mean, it looks like just another blah hotel like PPH and DLH. They should've taken a page out of WDW playbook and created a resort hotel that provides an escape/bubble feeling. They got it right with Grand Cali. They're getting it wrong here. I'd rather stay at Legoland Hotel than PPH, DLH, or this new one. Why? It's all about THEMING! It's amazing to me that th DL imagineers are missing this.
Disneyland needs the parking first and foremost. A hotel takes up much less space than a theme park. I am not against another theme park but they need to fix the parking issues.
Higher levels of DLH will still be able to see the parks/fireworks. The new resort is lower than DLH.
I can't see them going to a FP+ method. Maxpass has been working well for them so far.
I agree its a little blah.
They didn't have much of a choice. Disney needed parking improvements and Eastern Gateway wasn't happening. I believe it said they would be changing the tram configuration for the new garage.idk though, Disney is about to overload their mickey and friends tram system... its pretty bad as it is now, with a new structure, i cant imagine how the wait time for that would be.
putting the east side structure makes more sense. The Harbor residence probably should have made a better input on that by like making things wide open. people who are on the way home going to the east side parking structure could possibly stop at the local restaurants and maybe eat something before going home.
but with 2 structures on the west side and parking structure, i feel like there would be a ton more traffic keeping the guest within Disney.
Same 2 parks with one or two more lands. No new park. There is literally no land for it. SWL pushed the boundaries pretty much as far as they could. Marvel land in DCA will be another challenge. They absolutely do not have space for a third park without some serious land grab in the area and that is completely cost prohibitive- they barely ponied up enough to buy the thin little hotel that they did for Eastern Gateway! And that investment was unfortunate, for now at least.Do you think they will build another park? I use to go to DLR, I have been a AP in the past, but the last 3 times I have gone its way to crowded, and I have gone during the "off" time - AKA while most schools are in secession. now putting up this nice hotel, where are all the people going to go during the day?
Love your run-down!I've got a lot of thoughts on this.
1. DLR desperately needs a third park to deal with the stupid-crazy crowds they now have. .... And they build another hotel. Brilliant!!! That'll make EMH absolutely worthless.
2. I do love that at WDW, there's a bubble from all the Disney hotels. Will this bring that bubble feeling to DLR??? Or is it just adding more rooms that we'll NEVER EVER be able to afford?
3. They're taking out Rainforest Cafe??? I really hate this. That's a must do on nearly every trip we take. The food is better than most everything inside a Disney park (not hard), and they do theming there that's better than most DL restaurants. (And Earl was a fave before Celiac disease - hate this for everyone)
4. This will make the DLH a second tier hotel - though the prices will never reflect that. With completely blocked views of the park, and a blocked walk to the parks, DLH should see prices fall to PPH levels. But you know it never will.
Yeah right, but we can dream no? In thinking of the pricing scheme and GCH being the flagship for the resort I'm wondering how they'll price compared to GCH. If GCH remains the GF of DLR it needs to have the highest prices, then MysteryMouse Hotel, then DLH, PPH still bottom. Then Disney leaves MysteryMouse Hotel (got to call it something!) off the discounts. Want the newest hotel? You'll have to pay the highest price.
5. With 4 hotels, will Disneyland now switch to the WDW method of FPs and allow their hotel guests to book FPs 30-60 days in advance? I'd like to think they wouldn't, but I'd bet money that they will.
6. Could they have at least themed it? I mean, it looks like just another blah hotel like PPH and DLH. They should've taken a page out of WDW playbook and created a resort hotel that provides an escape/bubble feeling. They got it right with Grand Cali. They're getting it wrong here. I'd rather stay at Legoland Hotel than PPH, DLH, or this new one. Why? It's all about THEMING! It's amazing to me that th DL imagineers are missing this.
Same 2 parks with one or two more lands. No new park. There is literally no land for it. SWL pushed the boundaries pretty much as far as they could. Marvel land in DCA will be another challenge. They absolutely do not have space for a third park without some serious land grab in the area and that is completely cost prohibitive- they barely ponied up enough to buy the thin little hotel that they did for Eastern Gateway! And that investment was unfortunate, for now at least.
I REALLY see Disney closing the East entrance. That street is where the protestors, panhandlers and the missionaries are. And someone is bound to get hit in that overrun crosswalk. Maybe they will allow people to flow out as an exit at night, but not an entrance with security. That land has great potential for park expansions or restaurants.
It also absolutely strengthens the security to prevent terrorism/shooter getting into a park and...
Frankly, it's a big middle finger for not getting cooperation on their bridge and parking structure.
They close that gate and then three years later say, "can we put a parking lot and bridge there?!!" Not one hotel or restaurant would turn them down. Not one.
It's brilliant really.
especially with a new bowling alley being put in
it is a bit of a throw back to what Disneyland Hotel used to be - only hopefully, with top level service.
Or is it just adding more rooms that we'll NEVER EVER be able to afford?
4. This will make the DLH a second tier hotel - though the prices will never reflect that. With completely blocked views of the park, and a blocked walk to the parks, DLH should see prices fall to PPH levels. But you know it never will.
5. With 4 hotels, will Disneyland now switch to the WDW method of FPs and allow their hotel guests to book FPs 30-60 days in advance? I'd like to think they wouldn't, but I'd bet money that they will.
Disneyland needs the parking first and foremost.
That street is where the protestors, panhandlers and the missionaries are.
And someone is bound to get hit in that overrun crosswalk.
That land has great potential for park expansions or restaurants.
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They close that gate and then three years later say, "can we put a parking lot and bridge there?!!" Not one hotel or restaurant would turn them down. Not one.
I am unclear as to what happens to the security entrance at that end of DTD?