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- Mar 31, 2005
It's been blooming well cancelled!!
Totally and utterly gutted! It is one of our favs at the moment. I am off to find out more.
It's been blooming well cancelled!!
Whilst I find your devotion to Virgin a tad disturbing at times, Obi , I rarely disagree with your assertions. I'm not so sure about this one, though. Someone reported here recently that Virgin had been canvessing opinion on precisely such a change and it would actually be difficult to believe that they don't periodically look into its feasability - they must be constantly looking at any and all means of cutting costs. In fact, they'd be acting irresponsibily towards their shareholders if they didn't. As much as I struggle to imagine how it would work, I feel a certain level of disquiet about it. Maybe you could work some sort of Jedi mind trick on them.If a major airline (why would they, or why havent they??) went from Sanford, it would physically not be able to cope.
Whilst I find your devotion to Virgin a tad disturbing at times, Obi , I rarely disagree with your assertions. I'm not so sure about this one, though. Someone reported here recently that Virgin had been canvessing opinion on precisely such a change and it would actually be difficult to believe that they don't periodically look into its feasability - they must be constantly looking at any and all means of cutting costs. In fact, they'd be acting irresponsibily towards their shareholders if they didn't. As much as I struggle to imagine how it would work, I feel a certain level of disquiet about it. Maybe you could work some sort of Jedi mind trick on them.
Totally and utterly gutted! It is one of our favs at the moment. I am off to find out more.
The final episode has juts left it hanging in the air, not a good final episode at all!!
What a nightmare. Read on one of the forums that the company may make a special wind up episode, not that that is much consolation. I hate getting hooked and then be denied an ending.
There are 3 series in that list I just started to watch. I just wish they wouldn't bother or at least say we are dropping it, you have to round it up quickly.
No worries, Obi - I was getting a bit bored with the original one anyway.PS Mods, sorry, going well off topic now!
Well, interesting view Martina.
Your main unhappyness seems to be that you were late in taking off and you base your major concern on that.
Well, you only need to look at all the airlines and none of them have a 100% on time take off level. 4.5 hours was a long wait but unusual. 1-2 hours can be the norm dependant upon a lot of things at an airport as large as Gatwick.
First choice, only choice from Gatwick is a Thursday take off, against daily flights from virgin, BA and the others. So if you want to fly any other day forget it with them. Easy to be on time with a single flight per week, but even they have their off flights, they are only showing 88% on a single flight to Sanford per week.
The level of servie I have found with my many flights, both personal and on buisness is second to none, much, much better than the American airlines who pale in comparison to Virgin. You mention Continental, I am a One Pass member with them and they are OK, but not to the standard of Virgin, plus they codeshere many flights on VS metal!
This age nonsense, is precisley that, nonsense. the aircraft are not old, the Gatwick/Manchester 7474's are the youngest in the fleet of 747's, besides with aircraft it is the amount of takeoffs and landings that count, not the birthdate.
They are younger aircraft than Britsh airways and American and Continental. They have the youngest fleet compared to any of the scheduled airlines.
The prices are comparible to BA and other scheduled airlines, and I, checking many times a year, find them to be always cheaper than American airlines, the ONLY time I have found cheaper American airlines prices was once with Continental on a code share with Virgin!
The other reason prices are higher is I would imagine, that when you want to fly so do many other people and the cheaper prices have gone. If not they would not be the largest European airline flying into Florida daily.
Seating width and pitch. FCA do not make theirs available to the public, so difficult to say what their is actually.
American: Width 17.2" Pitch 32"
Continental W 17.9" P 32"
Delta: W 18" P 31-32"
Northwest W 17.2 P 31-32"
British airways W 17.5" P 31.0"
Virgin W 17.5" P32"
so again, not narrowl seats compared to the other airlines are they?
The economy service is probably their worst area, and they themselves know it needs to be worked upon and thats what they are in the process of doing. The gatwick aircraft will have new seating and economy service in 2008 after the buisness routes at heathrow are done in this year.
Finally Sanford. Well this has been the cause of many debates on here and that is down to personal choice. My personal choice 9is MCO with all the facilities it has compared to sanford that, when you have a major delay there is nothing to do, or to eat, is a long journey when you have just arrived and the choice of car hire services is poor. It is a reginal airport set up for charter airlines, compared to MCO which is a proper internal/international airport with many routes.
If a major airline (why would they, or why havent they??) went from Sanford, it would physically not be able to cope.
Martina, I'm not taking sides in your disagreement with Obi - it goes without saying that you're perfectly entitled to choose who to fly with regardless of the number of times you've flown with a particular airline. Based on things I've read, I think it's highly unlikely that I'll ever fly with TCD, so I don't necessarily agree with the assertion that your judgement is flawed because you've only had one experience of Virgin.
I don't have a problem with anything which boils down to a simple difference of opinion (such as the Sanford/MCO debate). However, your claim that Obi is talking nonsense about prices needs to be challenged. I've said this on these boards many times before and I'm sure this won't be the last - I have no particular allegiance to Virgin, and I'd happily book with someone else who could offer a comparable product at a cheaper price. However, Virgin comes in cheaper every time and that's why I continue to fly with them. You have to compare like with like. American Airlines doesn't offer direct non-stop flights from the UK to Orlando.
As for the planes themselves, well maybe that is open to personal interpretation so in MY view the planes appear old and cramped, you can state the measurements all you like but unfortunately I did not have a tape measure with me when I flew, I just know I found the Virgin 747 uncomfortable compared to say the A380 or the 777 on other more favourable airlines.
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I might be shot down in flames here but I didn't know the A380 had flown any commerical flights as yet
My point wasn't about whether or not indirect flights suit everyone, nor was I doubting that you may able to save money by booking with an airline other than Virgin. My only concern, ironically, was that those looking for tips or a balanced view might read your uncompromising judgement that Obi's comments on pricing were "nonsense" and take that on face value. If you're going to make such adamant statements, they need to be qualified. That a direct, non-stop flight is more expensive than an indirect one is hardly surprising. Your remark suggests that the Virgin flights you've looked at are uncompetitive and overpriced and that simply isn't true. Tell me that I can get BA flights on the same dates for 2/3 of the price of Virgin and I'll start sitting up and taking notice. Then you are genuinely comparing like with like.