When will '09 dates be released?

[Andrew DEREK UK]

Sorry...the only "hint" I can give is that the info will be in this weeks podcast.

Kevin

What time will it be released?

 

[DisneyKevin]

It's usually available sometime early Tuesady morning.

There are too many variables to give a definite answer.

If you watch the DIS Unplugged podcast board, it's usually posted as soon as it's availaable.

Kevin

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

It's usually available sometime early Tuesady morning.

There are too many variables to give a definite answer.

If you watch the DIS Unplugged podcast board, it's usually posted as soon as it's availaable.

Kevin

Thank you, I will look forward to it!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

Due to the time of this annocement I am presuming it will be about the first quarter of 2009 from January to April, Wonder and maybe Magic, but it might include more, clues dates, Who knows:-

Northern Europe.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

So come on guys and girls what are you wishing on a star for on Tuesday?

I think it will be just January to April 2009, but we can wish cant we????

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

Cant wait till Tuesday

 

[Melcatfish]

I will be logging on with interest! I am guessing that the summer special itinerary won't be officially announced already but I suspect the Dis Podcast guys have some pretty good "rumours" hopefully that the Magic is on it's way back to Europe for Summer 09 and maybe with a few suggestions about their guesses on it's ports \ route.

Mel
x

 

[JsMom2]

I'm hoping they'll at least confirm the rumor that one of the ships will be in Europe for 2009!

 

[Verandah Man]

Cant wait till Tuesday.....

..........

 

[CRSNDSNY]

So come on guys and girls what are you wishing on a star for on Tuesday?

I think it will be just January to April 2009, but we can wish cant we????

We are hoping for more Panama Canal crossings or something special for Christmas 2009. But I suppose I'll have to wait until next year to hear those plans.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

I will be logging on with interest! I am guessing that the summer special itinerary won't be officially announced already but I suspect the Dis Podcast guys have some pretty good "rumours" hopefully that the Magic is on it's way back to Europe for Summer 09 and maybe with a few suggestions about their guesses on it's ports \ route.

Mel
x

I'm hoping they'll at least confirm the rumor that one of the ships will be in Europe for 2009!

We are hoping for more Panama Canal crossings or something special for Christmas 2009. But I suppose I'll have to wait until next year to hear those plans.

Fingers crossed, hopfully something for everyone, listen tommorrow.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

This is most interesting with thanks to TOM31B on the repo thread, so who is off to Miami???

Port lands cruise line, will build $60M HQ
Week of September 27, 2007
By Wayne Tompkins
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/070927/story1.shtml
The Port of Miami expects next month to announce a deal that will bring a new cruise line headquarters to the port as well as a new $60 million terminal to accommodate it.
Port Director Bill Johnson said the deal, if completed, would be in the range of 15 years and $60 million.
"We're getting very close to announcing jointly the actual cruise line and the parameters of the deal," Mr. Johnson said. "It represents a good deal for the port and the cruise line. We're excited."
The port, operated by Miami-Dade County, hopes to present the deal to the county commission's transit committee in November and to the full commission a month later, Mr. Johnson said.
The port already is home to most major cruise lines and is the world's busiest cruise facility, expecting nearly 3.75 million passengers this year. That's below its 2003 record of 3.96 million, but up substantially from 3.1 million passengers in 1999.
"We're projecting 3.95 million passengers in 2008," Mr. Johnson said.
The pending announcement comes as the port is opening two new cruise terminals for Carnival Cruise Lines.
"These are state-of-the art terminals that we built for $40 million each," Mr. Johnson said. "It continues the long legacy here where modern-day cruising was actually invented more than 40 years ago at the Port of Miami."
The port is home to 22 different vessels and seven different brands in the cruise industry. While the identity of the new cruise line has not been publicly disclosed, Disney Cruise Lines, now based at Port Canaveral, recently made it known it might be looking to move or expand elsewhere. European lines looking to expand East Coast operations might also be interested in giving the Port of Miami a look.
Mr. Johnson said he also is aggressively pursuing the growing "port of call" business of vessels that make mid-week stops.

Talk of the Bay: Disney ships could cruise into Tampa Bay
By Times Staff
Published September 23, 2007

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/09/23/news_pf/Business/Talk_of_the_Bay__Disn.shtml

Disney Cruise Line may move some of its ships out of Port Canaveral on Florida's east coast, and executives have looked over Tampa as a possible home. Disney expects to double its fleet to four ships by 2012. The cruise line likes Port Canaveral as it's the closest to Walt Disney World, which is important because many customers combine three-and four-night cruises with stays at the theme parks. But the cruise line needs to consider other home ports and itineraries for the larger fleet, a spokeswoman said. Disney officials came to Tampa to confirm the port could handle their vessels, said port director Richard Wainio. Tom Wolber, the cruise line's operations chief, told the Orlando Sentinel that Miami and Fort Lauderdale, the nation's No. 1 and No. 3 cruise ports, are "obviously other alternatives."

orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneycruise0207oct02,0,924587.story?coll=orl_news_specials_util

OrlandoSentinel.com
More ports enter water for Disney's business
Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa and Seattle vie with Port Canaveral.
Jason Garcia

Sentinel Staff Writer

October 2, 2007

Disney Cruise Line, which is nearing the end of its initial 10-year contract with Port Canaveral, is pressing the port to cut costs amid suggestions that it might move its cruise ships.

E-mails between Disney and port executives reviewed by the Orlando Sentinel show that, on at least two occasions, Disney Cruise Line President Tom McAlpin hinted that his company could send ships to Miami or Fort Lauderdale.

The negotiations come as speculation builds about the future of Disney Cruise Line, which is increasingly experimenting with destinations beyond the Caribbean and which plans to double the size of its fleet to four ships by 2012. Ports from Tampa to Seattle say they have talked to Disney in recent months about the possibility of hosting ships.

"I think it's clear they want to diversify their itineraries," said Port of Tampa Chief Executive Officer Richard Wainio.

Disney's presence in Canaveral has already dipped. This summer, the company for the first time had to make a "shortage payment" to the port because its ships did not make enough stops at Canaveral.

Disney's contract requires that its ships, the Disney Magic and Disney Wonder, make at least 150 calls combined each year in order to maintain exclusive use of the nearly $30 million cruise terminal Canaveral built for the company. But port figures show that Disney made just 139 in its most recent contract year, which ended in July, because it had the Magic cruise ship in Europe for the summer.

As a result Disney had to pay roughly $107,000 to cover the port's losses in dockage and wharfage fees and to maintain its exclusive terminal use.

That payment surfaced as an issue in one of the e-mails between McAlpin and Robert Giangrisostomi, Canaveral's senior deputy executive director for business development.

On Aug. 29, Giangrisostomi forwarded McAlpin a newspaper story that included a ranking of the top 10 U.S. ports by passenger boardings. Canaveral ranked second, behind Miami but ahead of Fort Lauderdale's Port Everglades.

"Tom, Thanks for making us number 2," Giangrisostomi wrote to McAlpin.

"I hope the $100k that we were forced to pay put you in the number 2 spot. If we were in Ft. Lauderdale, I wonder if that would propel them to number 1?" McAlpin responded. He included a smiling face icon in his note, presumably to indicate he was joking.

It wasn't the first time McAlpin implied that Disney was considering South Florida. On Feb. 7, Giangrisostomi sent him another newspaper story detailing problems facing Miami's port. "Some interesting stories," Giangrisostomi wrote.

"Yes but they have the geographical benefit," McAlpin replied, alluding to the fact that Miami is much closer to "Castaway Cay," Disney's private island in the Bahamas. He again included a smiling face in his e-mail, but then he added, "PS. Have you found a way to reduce our costs yet?"

Disney would not elaborate on McAlpin's comments.

"Right now, we're in negotiations, and we don't discuss negotiations with the media traditionally," spokeswoman Rena Langley said.

Stan Payne, Port Canaveral's CEO, called the exchanges "good-natured ribbing." But he also acknowledged that Canaveral is in the midst of in-depth negotiations with Disney on a new deal.

Payne said talks have focused primarily on renovations and improvements Disney wants made at its terminal.

"There are some changes that are going to have to be made at the terminal to maintain the level of experience that Disney expects," Payne said.

Disney, though, is also studying other options.

In February, Disney Cruise Line representatives toured the Port of Tampa, in part to learn whether it could handle its ships in the event of an emergency such as a hurricane, Wainio, the port CEO, said. But Wainio said follow-up conversations broadened to the possibility of basing a ship in Tampa, which like Canaveral is a short drive from Walt Disney World but which offers access to different ports of call.

"We certainly hope that one day in the future they make the decision to move one of those ships over here," Wainio said.

A spokesman for the Port of Seattle, a popular homeport for cruises to Alaska, said it, too, had talked to Disney.

Cruise-industry analysts say Disney is likely trying to leverage the best deal possible out of Port Canaveral by suggesting it might move its ships. But they also say Disney might decide to maintain a lesser presence there in the future.

The company has already announced it will send the Magic back to Los Angeles from May through August of 2008. And analysts say Europe and the U.S. West Coast -- where sailings could be split between Alaska and the Mexican Riviera -- are likely candidates for permanent Disney service once its new ships arrive in 2011 and 2012.

Langley said Disney is still weighing those decisions.

"We're exploring all of our options for the future, which is what any prudent company would do," Langley said.

Interesting times! Miami?????????????

 

[CRSNDSNY]

Ahhhh, I can get inexpensive flights to Miami!

 

[cinjam]

If it helps: we booked for February 2007 on October 19, 2005. I just pulled out my old confirmation.

We are anxioulsy awaitng the release of February 2009 sail dates!!! We rebooked while we were on our Feb 07 cruise and can't wait to go again!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

Ahhhh, I can get inexpensive flights to Miami!

Maybe?

If it helps: we booked for February 2007 on October 19, 2005. I just pulled out my old confirmation.

We are anxioulsy awaitng the release of February 2009 sail dates!!! We rebooked while we were on our Feb 07 cruise and can't wait to go again!

That would mean they have delayed the release of the first part of 2009 for some reason, should we read anything into that?

 

[Joan1]

It will be interesting to see what will happen to the land/sea packages if they move the ships to Miami. Port Canaveral is currently only a one hour ride from the Orlando airport and Disney World. Miami is much further away

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

It will be interesting to see what will happen to the land/sea packages if they move the ships to Miami. Port Canaveral is currently only a one hour ride from the Orlando airport and Disney World. Miami is much further away

I remember driving to Miami for Princess it took me about 4 hours, PC is an easy run to/from WDW, but balance against DCL fuel costs going up/down the coast to PC at 22 miles an hour, this adds costs to the cruise and reduces the destinations available. They could go so much further with a head start from Miami.

Presume land and sea would have you on those loverly DCL coaches.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

OK, before the pod-cast release tomorrow, I will dream tonight.


Hints for:-


NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE

 

[ldb1030]

OK, before the pod-cast release tomorrow, I will dream tonight.


Hints for:-


NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE
NORTHERN EUROPE

Okay, well I'll be dreaming of-
caribbean, caribbean, caribbean, caribbean, caribbean, caribbean, caribbean, caribbea, caribbean,caribbean,caribbean, caribbean,caribbean!

 

[granmaz]

I want sun and heat so I vote for the Caribbean too even though Northern Europe would mean less travelling.