Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

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The people that think strollers are a problem are the same people who are going to be rude to other guests for any perceived infringement of social distancing and/or masks. Always wrapped up in self righteousness too. "They won't remember it" = "I know what's best for your child"
This is the main reason I cancelled my June reservation before Disney cancelled it. The behavior of people either mad that people aren't following their idea of "the new normal" or mad that others are telling them what to do sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The anger displayed in stores like Home Depot in our small town made me think it will only be much worse once you add heat/travel stress/and pent up frustration.
 
It's been reported (rumor) that CMs have been telling guests that they can't book or modify June reservations because they "are at capacity". So this can either mean capacity=0 (June won't be open), or enough people have trips booked and Disney can no longer accept additional reservations due to the limited capacity (whatever that may be) that they will open with. In other words, IMO there will not be a problem for Disney to reach capacity on any day they open. Everyone wants out of months on end of quarantine, even with restrictions.
A lot of people with reservations, like me, are sitting and waiting to see what Disney's plans are to see if they will cancel. ..anyway, my vacation is $4k which is probably lower than most. I would be happy with a partial refund for Memory Maker in the form of an onsite credit. Not asking for lower priced tickets or anything like that. I am sure initially the demand will be there, but I was thinking more long term. We are going into a recession unlike anyone has ever seen. It is going to be hard to charge $6 for a churro, or $200 a night at Pop Century in the middle of a recession.
 
Good question! And not something we have discussed on this thread much. I am guessing that face painting at AKL is going to be out . . . . Maybe they could do mask art?

I don't think they will be able to have pool games, but I don't know. We were given pool guidance for our HOA that said no pool games were allowed. 😕 I am not sure why. You could play Disney trivia or Name that Tune and maintain social distancing. I guess anything you have to touch that others touch is out- like hula hoop contests and Bingo.

Are marshmallow roasts out? How about outdoor movies?

Resort activities are so much fun. It will be sad to see how many of them don't exist for a while.
Oh darn, you just reminded me of the night vision goggles at Animal Kingdom Lodge. My kids really enjoyed that but yeah, I imagine that will be out too, though I suppose you could wipe them down between guests? (Something they should probably do anyway).
 
though I suppose you could wipe them down between guests? (Something they should probably do anyway).

Just wanted to comment on this part. I do hope that after we get past this virus (vaccine or whatever form it takes) that some of the new procedures like let's wipe down a credit card reader between people and stuff like that stays around. While this is a bad situation there are lessons we can learn and continue to do going forward in terms of sanitation and just being more careful about touching things. That doesn't mean things like nigh vision goggles can't be done but hopefully going forward we are safer about cleaning things. That may be a good takeaway from this whole situation.
 
This is the main reason I cancelled my June reservation before Disney cancelled it. The behavior of people either mad that people aren't following their idea of "the new normal" or mad that others are telling them what to do sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The anger displayed in stores like Home Depot in our small town made me think it will only be much worse once you add heat/travel stress/and pent up frustration.

I am quite worried about that, too. I have seen a lot of comments that concern me that there will be judgmental, controlling people at the parks who will be angry about something or other and feel the need to confront someone. That actually worries me more than the risk of contracting the virus.
 
I don’t think I agree with this. I think the demand is there. No the disboards is not indicative of all disney visitors however I don’t think the lower class is either. Now obviously millions are without jobs currently. Many of those are hospitality, and entertainment type positions. I don’t have numbers but disney targets the middle middle and middle upper classes. I don’t think a lot of those upper middle class jobs have been lost at this time. Many of those people are still working from home sort of as “normal.” Once they are allowed to go and feel comfortable doing so I think they will.

I myself am not out of work completely but have lost work due to this and am still planning trips as “normal.”
Yes, I have been fortunate to be able to work from home, and am currently saving $1600 a month on childcare, so I have been extremely fortunate to still be able to plan an expensive Disney trip. After everything settles though, jobs are going to be permanently lost. I work in the Entertainment industry in LA (we have a very familiar company as a client), and have friends left and right that have permanently lost their job. I am sure Disney will get back to normal, but don't expect it to happen right away. At the very least, I don't expect huge, if any, increases on ticket prices in the near future. I was priced out of a premier pass a few years back. $1400 increase in 10 years is absolutely nuts.
 
I don’t think I agree with this. I think the demand is there. No the disboards is not indicative of all disney visitors however I don’t think the lower class is either. Now obviously millions are without jobs currently. Many of those are hospitality, and entertainment type positions. I don’t have numbers but disney targets the middle middle and middle upper classes. I don’t think a lot of those upper middle class jobs have been lost at this time. Many of those people are still working from home sort of as “normal.” Once they are allowed to go and feel comfortable doing so I think they will.

I myself am not out of work completely but have lost work due to this and am still planning trips as “normal.”
I have a lot of difficulty believing Disney targets the middle middle class at this point. We are high income (not top 1%, but top 2%) and have been turned off by Disney prices recently, especially compared to other vacations. We've been saying for a while that Disney was focused on short term profits and not planning for what would happen if a bad recession hit - well they are about to find out. After the initial backlog, they will have to lure people back in. It's not just poor people who are unemployed or underemployed, and the economy is going to be hurting for years. For example, this may be all because of a health problem, but the medical community has lost billions in revenue, and many doctors and nurses have been fired or had their wages reduced. That's just one example.

That said, I don't think there is any benefit to complaining about prices once you are already in the parks. I agree MM is too expensive if 60-80% of the photo experiences are not available. So don't buy it. Disney will have to reduce the price if few people do.
 
Yes, I have been fortunate to be able to work from home, and am currently saving $1600 a month on childcare, so I have been extremely fortunate to still be able to plan an expensive Disney trip. After everything settles though, jobs are going to be permanently lost. I work in the Entertainment industry in LA (we have a very familiar company as a client), and have friends left and right that have permanently lost their job. I am sure Disney will get back to normal, but don't expect it to happen right away. At the very least, I don't expect huge, if any, increases on ticket prices in the near future. I was priced out of a premier pass a few years back. $1400 increase in 10 years is absolutely nuts.
Yes I agree with that and that jobs will be permanently lost. That said I still think there will be demand. Look at Shanghai. Demand was still quite high in the days before the closure. Will demand be like it was when things were "normal"? No probably not but I think Disney won't have a problem selling out whatever allotment they decide on.
 
I am quite worried about that, too. I have seen a lot of comments that concern me that there will be judgmental, controlling people at the parks who will be angry about something or other and feel the need to confront someone. That actually worries me more than the risk of contracting the virus.
I had some lady flip out on my for refreshing fastpasses while I waited for my wife to buy a hat for our son at the Emporium. She said something to the effect of "if everyone wasn't in their ***** phone all the time". Like, hello, you came to a theme park, the core of which is a technology tied to your phone. I'm kind of a jerk and it was so petulant that I just laughed, to which she got even more angry as she stormed away, cursing about me. Now imagine people like her thinking your behavior will give them a disease? I'll still be at City Walk Thursday and DS on May 20th and MK whatever day because I'm going to live my life and I enjoy angering these people, but others, my wife included abhor conflict and I do have sympathy for them.
 
My only issue with the "At capacity" thing is the whole month hit capacity the same day and time? If it was really capacity wouldn't some days hit capacity first and some be open? I think it is just something easy to have CMs say to people for now and something hard for guests to argue with.
They are probably over capacity and are hoping people will cancel when they release the restrictions, bringing them to a more manageable level IF they decide to open any time in June.

ETA: OR they were under, and closed it all while they were under capacity before it could go over capacity, to allow for locals and APs to go via reservations when they do open
 
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Good Lord, some of you sound like you want Disney to be a prison rather than a source of entertainment..CM’s allowed to lash out, ban strollers, no special needs accommodations...I’m really glad guests aren’t allowed to make the rules.

Yep. That's exactly what I said last night and got flamed for it. This is starting to sound like a prison with a never-ending list of rules and restrictions. How the heck does anyone find fun in this?

I still maintain my opinion. I hope Disney does not reopen anytime soon. This whole reopening is going to be an absolute disaster. They are going to come down with a ton of new rules. Half the people will purposely not follow them because they think it's ridiculous. The other half of people will get angry because Mickey Mouse isn't beating up people in the middle of Main Street for not wearing their mask.

Meanwhile the virus continues to spread anyway regardless of what we do.
 
I have a lot of difficulty believing Disney targets the middle middle class at this point. We are high income (not top 1%, but top 2%) and have been turned off by Disney prices recently, especially compared to other vacations. We've been saying for a while that Disney was focused on short term profits and not planning for what would happen if a bad recession hit - well they are about to find out. After the initial backlog, they will have to lure people back in. It's not just poor people who are unemployed or underemployed, and the economy is going to be hurting for years. For example, this may be all because of a health problem, but the medical community has lost billions in revenue, and many doctors and nurses have been fired or had their wages reduced. That's just one example.

That said, I don't think there is any benefit to complaining about prices once you are already in the parks. I agree MM is too expensive if 60-80% of the photo experiences are not available. So don't buy it.
Disney surely has moved into targeting the upper class more and more with things they have done the past few years. However the middle class is still their bread and butter. Without it, they wouldn't sell out things like they do.

Obviously there are big questions to how bad and long the pending recession will be and that will impact what Disney need to do. However I think as of this moment most people are still hoping/planning those fall, winter and early 2021 vacations.

There are certainly a lot of pieces to this puzzle but hypothetically lets say WDW opens in July with 30% capacity. I don't think they will have a problem filling that.
 
I don’t think I agree with this. I think the demand is there. No the disboards is not indicative of all disney visitors however I don’t think the lower class is either. Now obviously millions are without jobs currently. Many of those are hospitality, and entertainment type positions. I don’t have numbers but disney targets the middle middle and middle upper classes. I don’t think a lot of those upper middle class jobs have been lost at this time. Many of those people are still working from home sort of as “normal.” Once they are allowed to go and feel comfortable doing so I think they will.

I myself am not out of work completely but have lost work due to this and am still planning trips as “normal.”

I agree. I work in IT and can work from home and while out office has opened up they are not forcing anybody to come to the office and I may one day this week since I need to do some work in the lab but it isn't mandatory. I'm in the upper middle area. My income so far as not been affected.

Now I'm also one that doesn't plan real expensive vacations. I'm often solo. I go for rundisney race weekends and stay in value reports (mainly pop), don't do many or any ADRs. I go run my races, use my fastpasses and have fun in the parks. I often stay a day or two after races so I can have a few park only days without 2am wake up calls. When I splurge it is for things like Savi's workshop. I normally go twice a year for trips though but try to keep costs down. My trips are not "once in a lifetime" and don't treat them as such. Still have an amazing time and just paid another $1000 today between dopey registration and my resort deposit.
 
They are probably over capacity and are hoping people will cancel when they release the restrictions, bringing them to a more manageable level IF they decide to open any time in June.

I was just thinking that. I had one last, minute hope for no face covering requirement: Maybe Chapek just said that because they are hoping people will cancel as a result of it. :bitelip: 🤞
 
Yep. That's exactly what I said last night and got flamed for it. This is starting to sound like a prison with a never-ending list of rules and restrictions. How the heck does anyone find fun in this?

I still maintain my opinion. I hope Disney does not reopen anytime soon. This whole reopening is going to be an absolute disaster. They are going to come down with a ton of new rules. Half the people will purposely not follow them because they think it's ridiculous. The other half of people will get angry because Mickey Mouse isn't beating up people in the middle of Main Street for not wearing their mask.

Meanwhile the virus continues to spread anyway regardless of what we do.

Hate to break it to you, but no matter when they open up, there will be new restrictions in place that weren’t there before they closed. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to go. No one is forcing you to go to Disney. I’m well aware of everything likely to be restricted upon opening, and I still know I’ll have fun, and I know I’m not the only one
 
That said, I don't think there is any benefit to complaining about prices once you are already in the parks. I agree MM is too expensive if 60-80% of the photo experiences are not available. So don't buy it. Disney will have to reduce the price if few people do.

I purchase MM as a part of a package in January. I can still remove it (I hope), but I want to sit an wait to see what their actual plans are first. I've always paid for it because we get great pictures. But won't pay the $$ if I can only get a few pictures.

Yes I agree with that and that jobs will be permanently lost. That said I still think there will be demand. Look at Shanghai. Demand was still quite high in the days before the closure. Will demand be like it was when things were "normal"? No probably not but I think Disney won't have a problem selling out whatever allotment they decide on.
Yes, initially I do not think they will have a problem with whatever capacity they set. That's why they are sending out all these surveys, etc to gauge interest. They are trying to get to the perfect operational efficiency. They purposely set the Shanghai capacity extremely low to show how they sold out in 3 minutes despite being dead opening day. I am sure initially, they will set the capacity extremely low on purpose. It definitely makes sense to start very slow. Long term, though, Disney will have to make concessions.
 
Ban strollers next. I can't get my head around stroller parking and social distancing.

And yet, the safest place for a child to be while social distancing is probably ... in their own stroller.

Surely they will consider the stroller parking. Maybe you’ll drop off & pick up from a CM. Maybe there will be designated spots and you leave it with a CM if there’s overflow. They’ll figure something out.
 
I want to reply saying that people will have common sense and courtesy when the parks open and realize what is going on and be accepting that these rules are in place for a reason...but I can’t. I wish Disney would allow their castmembers to lash back at the entitled guests without legal recourse.
That’s much more of a safety issue than a legal issue. If a CM “lashes out” in many cases it will result in escalating the situation. The more escalated a situation the more likely violence will ensue.
 
Wow. 99.99% of the guests I've seen at DW and DL have been awesome. Never witnessed someone complain to a CM that I'd consider "entitled". Perhaps I'm not in the right area at the right time.
HOW??!!! At least every other day over an embarrassing amount of trips I have heard this in the parks or at the hotels or on the transport.

obviously you find the happy spots of Disney parks. Can you be my Disney Park Yoda?
 
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