kaytieeldr
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Funny how the article says "to be MOST effective", yet you turn it around that unless it's worn as specified, it's not effective. There are plenty of people wearing masks improperly which cuts down on the effectiveness of those too.From th article....
According to Perencevich's group, "face shields may provide a better option."
To be most effective in stopping viral spread, a face shield should extend to below the chin. It should also cover the ears and "there should be no exposed gap between the forehead and the shield's headpiece," the Iowa team members said.
I have yet to see a face shield worn by the average person in public that met the above criteria to be effective. (Even the stock photo at the top of that article doesn’t “cover the ears.”) That was why I had my doubts when I saw the couple.
The governor of CA just made masks mandatory for children unless they are under 2 and under. My 5 year old son is enrolled in a summer camp which already has social distancing measures in place. Now he's required to wear a mask all day. While I understand the precaution, I feel bad for young children being so isolated fro their peers at a crucial developmental age.
I'll explain why masks isolate children:
SEEING HUMAN FACES IS A MASSIVE PART OF DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTION WITH OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.
Good lord, are you guys serious?
Kids need to be able to see smiles, frowns, facial expressions. Facial expressions are part of learning empathy. This is why they are a big focus in learning for children with autism spectrum disorder - learning expressions and learning how to make them. YES, not being able to see faces IS isolating, it separates you from other people.
Are you so numb to other humans that being able to see their faces is now totally meaningless?
"Facial expressions of emotion are nonverbal behaviors that allow us to interact efficiently in social life and respond to events affecting our welfare. " - Psychonomic Bulletin & Review
"They are extremely important to the social interaction of individuals. " - Department of Psychology, Ningbo University
This is absolutely horrifying, dystopian insanity.
Well, most most effective would be face shield and mask combination. Anyway, apologies. I, a civilian, know how to wear a face shield (okay, admittedly, mainly from seeing them on Amazon) so I expect everyone else would, too
But for me, it's the lesser of two evils and right now I don't get a say. So if I have to choose between keeping my kids away from their peers or letting them around their peers with social distance and masks, I'll choose the latter. If it's the only way my kids are allowed back in their dance studio, we'll do it. It's not ideal and it sucks, but those are really the two choices we have right now. Because you know what also is detrimental to human connection and development? Isolation from their peers completely.I'll explain why masks isolate children:
SEEING HUMAN FACES IS A MASSIVE PART OF DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTION WITH OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.
Good lord, are you guys serious?
Kids need to be able to see smiles, frowns, facial expressions. Facial expressions are part of learning empathy. This is why they are a big focus in learning for children with autism spectrum disorder - learning expressions and learning how to make them. YES, not being able to see faces IS isolating, it separates you from other people.
Are you so numb to other humans that being able to see their faces is now totally meaningless?
"Facial expressions of emotion are nonverbal behaviors that allow us to interact efficiently in social life and respond to events affecting our welfare. " - Psychonomic Bulletin & Review
"They are extremely important to the social interaction of individuals. " - Department of Psychology, Ningbo University
This is absolutely horrifying, dystopian insanity.
As a preschool teacher I’m a little worried about how this is all going to play out in the classroom. IF we go back and that is a big IF I have been thinking about how important it is for kids in a 5 hour classroom setting to be able to see the expressions of the others faces. We talk so much about reading others expressions when talking about emotions and social cues. Also , it is difficult enough to understand a 3 year old at times; not seeing their lips will make it even more frustrating. As a former speech therapist I’m afraid some articulation training will get lost.
Amazon sells child size face shields https://www.amazon.com/Vye-Protective-Corrosion-Resistant-Lightweight-Transparent/dp/B087T7D45T/ref=sr_1_6?crid=QJ2F6799RSMS&dchild=1&keywords=child+face+shield+mask&qid=1592707830&sprefix=Child+face+shie,aps,162&sr=8-6 expected to be in stock by mid-July.
And speech for younger kids 2-3 years old. It has absolutely reached a level of insanity.I'll explain why masks isolate children:
SEEING HUMAN FACES IS A MASSIVE PART OF DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTION WITH OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.
Good lord, are you guys serious?
Kids need to be able to see smiles, frowns, facial expressions. Facial expressions are part of learning empathy. This is why they are a big focus in learning for children with autism spectrum disorder - learning expressions and learning how to make them. YES, not being able to see faces IS isolating, it separates you from other people.
Are you so numb to other humans that being able to see their faces is now totally meaningless?
"Facial expressions of emotion are nonverbal behaviors that allow us to interact efficiently in social life and respond to events affecting our welfare. " - Psychonomic Bulletin & Review
"They are extremely important to the social interaction of individuals. " - Department of Psychology, Ningbo University
This is absolutely horrifying, dystopian insanity.
Was gonna say, sometimes I give up on keeping pants on DS (2)!People are getting incredibly stupid with this. It's hard enough getting little kids to leave their shoes on, much less a mask.
It is hard to get kids to do a lot of things we make them do for their health. Why should this be the one thing that makes people throw their hands up in the air and say it is too hard?
As a parent in a setting where you have an errand to run with your 3 year old or a 30 minute activity I agree. With a classroom of 14 three year olds and 2 adults I would disagree. The average attention span for a child is their age plus 3 minutes. I spend the whole year working on where they should keep their hands. If people think they can get 14 three year olds to comply with keeping on a mask for five hours, have at it; not to mention learning communication skills, articulation and language.