News Round Up 2017

[Reddog1134]

Based on information in New Fantasyland WDW - Martins Ultimate Tribute - Part One of Two (around the 1 minute mark), after 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea closed in 1994 there was a plan to put a Villains Mountain on the 5 acres of land that 20k took up.

It was never built, but I can imagine the thought process might have been similar to what happened with MGM. The idea of MGM was actually a pavilion for Future World in EPCOT. Eisner liked the idea so much that they decided to make it it's own park (and y'know, to compete with that whole Universal Studios thing down the street).

I didn't watch the video but I assume it's the old Bald Mountain rumors?

 

[mikepizzo]

I didn't watch the video but I assume it's the old Bald Mountain rumors?

Not sure if the planned name is in the video. It was going to start like it's a small world, then get more sinister until Maleficent showed up and "diverted" the boats. The riders would then be transported to the underworld, etc.

 

[rteetz]

Great movie ride signage has been removed...

 

[rteetz]

Final MSEP at Disneyland

 

[skier_pete]

I still wonder if MSEP comes back to WDW in the next year. You ship it off for 12-24 months and save money by not hosting it, then you bring it back with much fanfare as soemthing "New and improved" or something like that - suddenly you have bigger crowds than ever to see the same thing that's been there for years. (If you've seen PTN and you know how superior it is, yet still MSEP in DLR did gangbusters for them.)

 

[Tiffany_m15]

I still wonder if MSEP comes back to WDW in the next year. You ship it off for 12-24 months and save money by not hosting it, then you bring it back with much fanfare as soemthing "New and improved" or something like that - suddenly you have bigger crowds than ever to see the same thing that's been there for years. (If you've seen PTN and you know how superior it is, yet still MSEP in DLR did gangbusters for them.)

I kind of hope so. We love it so much we still listen to the music in the car on occasion. We missed it before it left so a limited time engagement would be perfect.

 

[rteetz]

News

Cinderellas Royal Table closing for refurb in Feb. 2018

http://www.wdwmagic.com/dining/cind...or-brief-refurbishment-late-february-2018.htm

 

[MissGina5]

News

Cinderellas Royal Table closing for refurb in Feb. 2018

http://www.wdwmagic.com/dining/cind...or-brief-refurbishment-late-february-2018.htm

ooh some people are not going to be happy but I think definitely warranted!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

News

Cinderellas Royal Table closing for refurb in Feb. 2018

http://www.wdwmagic.com/dining/cind...or-brief-refurbishment-late-february-2018.htm

at least they are giving the notice at (slightly) more than 180 days so it doesn't mess with people that had ADRs already made

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I still wonder if MSEP comes back to WDW in the next year. You ship it off for 12-24 months and save money by not hosting it, then you bring it back with much fanfare as soemthing "New and improved" or something like that - suddenly you have bigger crowds than ever to see the same thing that's been there for years. (If you've seen PTN and you know how superior it is, yet still MSEP in DLR did gangbusters for them.)

do they really need to pack in more crowds though? seems like Main St/Hub is pretty darn crowded every night for Happily Ever After. Now, a year from now, who knows

 

[nkosiek]

do they really need to pack in more crowds though? seems like Main St/Hub is pretty darn crowded every night for Happily Ever After. Now, a year from now, who knows

That's a choice they made with the projections. Wishes was a sound and fireworks show that could be experienced almost anywhere in the park. The current one almost needs to be seen from the HUB/Main St. I thought MSEP was okay but my sister loved it when I took her down a few years ago. It's a nice attraction/show, and was certainly a nice way to finish off the day. I don't know that I would watch it every day I were in MK, but certainly more than once a trip. Sadly, now I stream out with the rest of the crew and since it's such a mass of humanity moving, there's really no way/reason for me to linger and shop/get ice cream.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

do they really need to pack in more crowds though? seems like Main St/Hub is pretty darn crowded every night for Happily Ever After. Now, a year from now, who knows

Having 2 MSEP plus fireworks gave 3 separate points at which people would choose to leave the park. Without the parade, it is INSANITY at 10pm -- awful. The parades would HELP, IMO.

 

[rteetz]

Today in Disney History

Bambi was released on this date in 1942 (75th anniversary)

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Having 2 MSEP plus fireworks gave 3 separate points at which people would choose to leave the park. Without the parade, it is INSANITY at 10pm -- awful. The parades would HELP, IMO.

I guess I could see the benefit of having one AFTER Happily Ever After as some people would stay for that while others left before. Guess I just don't see that many people coming for a night time parade that is before the fireworks and then not staying for the fireworks - so all it would do is bring more people to the area that are then trying to leave at the same time. But one after I could see your point defintiely

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I guess I could see the benefit of having one AFTER Happily Ever After as some people would stay for that while others left before. Guess I just don't see that many people coming for a night time parade that is before the fireworks and then not staying for the fireworks - so all it would do is bring more people to the area that are then trying to leave at the same time. But one after I could see your point defintiely

Honestly, I don't really think MORE would come for the parade. HEA is the star of the night. I think it might just help stagger the departures.

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Having 2 MSEP plus fireworks gave 3 separate points at which people would choose to leave the park. Without the parade, it is INSANITY at 10pm -- awful. The parades would HELP, IMO.

Without the parade, I don't see much difference. Not everyone stays to watch the fireworks, and not everyone stayed to watch the parade. I was at WDW at Christmas (Christmas-New Years week), March, May, and June (all since the MSEP left), and I have never had a problem with leaving the park after any shows. The max I waited for a bus at park closing at the MK was 30 minutes (used an Art of Animation bus for Pop). Other than that, it's about a one or two bus wait for me. If I used a monorail resort like at Christmas, I was on the next monorail. Now I didn't spend Christmas Day or New Years Eve in the MK, but still the crowds are pretty insane that week.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I really don't see how a parade will change anything. A LOT of people leave after the first parade/fireworks anyways that waiting for the 2nd parade has always been the go to advice for anyone that can stay up that long. if WDW ever gets a nighttime parade again (which I'm sure it will), I think it will be more looked at as an addition rather than spreading out the times people leave.

 

[rteetz]

Without the parade, I don't see much difference. Not everyone stays to watch the fireworks, and not everyone stayed to watch the parade. I was at WDW at Christmas (Christmas-New Years week), March, May, and June (all since the MSEP left), and I have never had a problem with leaving the park after any shows. The max I waited for a bus at park closing at the MK was 30 minutes (used an Art of Animation bus for Pop). Other than that, it's about a one or two bus wait for me. If I used a monorail resort like at Christmas, I was on the next monorail. Now I didn't spend Christmas Day or New Years Eve in the MK, but still the crowds are pretty insane that week.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I really don't see how a parade will change anything. A LOT of people leave after the first parade/fireworks anyways that waiting for the 2nd parade has always been the go to advice for anyone that can stay up that long. if WDW ever gets a nighttime parade again (which I'm sure it will), I think it will be more looked at as an addition rather than spreading out the times people leave.

I agree to a point. Having the night parade run twice does help spread out crowds but the majority will still leave after the first viewing/fireworks.

 

[rteetz]

News

The Africa Pandora entrance will not be opening with the park from now on

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2017/08/avatar-land-opening-procedure-changing.html

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Without the parade, I don't see much difference. Not everyone stays to watch the fireworks, and not everyone stayed to watch the parade. I was at WDW at Christmas (Christmas-New Years week), March, May, and June (all since the MSEP left), and I have never had a problem with leaving the park after any shows. The max I waited for a bus at park closing at the MK was 30 minutes (used an Art of Animation bus for Pop). Other than that, it's about a one or two bus wait for me. If I used a monorail resort like at Christmas, I was on the next monorail. Now I didn't spend Christmas Day or New Years Eve in the MK, but still the crowds are pretty insane that week.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I really don't see how a parade will change anything. A LOT of people leave after the first parade/fireworks anyways that waiting for the 2nd parade has always been the go to advice for anyone that can stay up that long. if WDW ever gets a nighttime parade again (which I'm sure it will), I think it will be more looked at as an addition rather than spreading out the times people leave.

"Most" leaving at close is still better that "all" leaving at close. Just is. We're at 20 trips now, and in the summer there were frequently people who stayed past the fireworks and hung around for the 2nd parade.

Let's put it this way: could it HURT to have a reason for some people to wait a bit to stampede?

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Let's put it this way: could it HURT to have a reason for some people to wait a bit to stampede?

One reason I can think of is do all of your shopping during that hour that Main Street stays open. That's the only reason right now though.

I think the MK will have it this way until it gets darker earlier. Then they can run the firework show earlier in the evening with a possibility of staying open a little later.