Do You Trust the Media?

[FlightlessDuck]

No. Because what she wore is not relevant to her death. Are you seriously claiming that if she work a pink tutu instead of black she'd be alive? SMH

The "black outfit" picture shows an overweight woman holding a pack of Newports. What she was actually wearing wasn't related. It's part of the "Heyer wasn't hit by a car, she died of a heart attack because she was fat" conspiracy.

 

[ELKA]

Ew!

When on 9/11 when they show the planes going into the building, they showed the moment lives were lost. When some of the newspapers the next day showed people who jumped out of the WTC in mid air what do you think we saw. When in 1980 a journalist was shot in the back and ABC showed it. When James Foley and Jihadi John was shown, what did you think about that, on the internet it shows the actual killing and the head of James Foley on his body’s lap. How about Bastille Day in France when a truck was shown plowing down the street killing people, the media all showed those things. That is only the tip of what is shown on film. So, me asking for the video is not an unreasonable request.

 

[BrinkofSunshine]

Blunt force trauma is pretty hard on the body. I can definitely see how getting run into by a car could cause someone's heart to stop, even someone young.

My mother-in-law died of lung cancer, but not really. Really, she died when her heart stopped beating, due to the sheer exhaustion of trying to keep her lungs working as they filled with fluid. So, what really killed her? I still say it was the cancer, even though she was overweight, diabetic, a former smoker, and at high risk for a heart attack.

Yeah, that's what I meant; I don't doubt for a second that she was hit by the car and killed.

 

[Magpie]

When on 9/11 when they show the planes going into the building, they showed the moment lives were lost. When some of the newspapers the next day showed people who jumped out of the WTC in mid air what do you think we saw. When in 1980 a journalist was shot in the back and ABC showed it. When James Foley and Jihadi John was shown, what did you think about that, on the internet it shows the actual killing and the head of James Foley on his body’s lap. How about Bastille Day in France when a truck was shown plowing down the street killing people, the media all showed those things. That is only the tip of what is shown on film. So, me asking for the video is not an unreasonable request.

By which you can probably conclude that there is no video of the moment of impact. And thank goodness for that, or we'd likely have been subjected to the sight of the poor woman's body flying through the air over and over and over again, on the nightly news.

Repeatedly requesting video evidence on this thread is unreasonable, and ugly, because it gives the impression that if there is no video then obviously she wasn't hit by a car. Even though there are apparently both witnesses and forensic evidence that she was.

I really, really feel bad for her family. And her poor mum, who is likely to have the whole "she died of a heart attack" thing twisted and used against her daughter. This is going to be one hell of a trial for them to endure!

 

[BrinkofSunshine]

When on 9/11 when they show the planes going into the building, they showed the moment lives were lost. When some of the newspapers the next day showed people who jumped out of the WTC in mid air what do you think we saw. When in 1980 a journalist was shot in the back and ABC showed it. When James Foley and Jihadi John was shown, what did you think about that, on the internet it shows the actual killing and the head of James Foley on his body’s lap. How about Bastille Day in France when a truck was shown plowing down the street killing people, the media all showed those things. That is only the tip of what is shown on film. So, me asking for the video is not an unreasonable request.

Maybe nobody was filming at that exact moment when she was hit. Or too busy, you know, running away from the car.

 

[Hikergirl]

If a tree falls in the forest and no one records it falling...

Let's ignore the witnesses who saw the woodsman hacking away at it. Let's ignore the forensic tree expert who says there are ax marks in the trunk. The tree's mom says it died of a lack of water and nutrients from the soil, so clearly it fell over naturally because... it was a smoker and overweight?

Don't forget the storm, there was wind on one side, and rain on the other. Neither of those things were peaceful.

 

[Magpie]

Don't forget the storm, there was wind on one side, and rain on the other. Neither of those things were peaceful.

What was that tree thinking, deliberately choosing to grow in that spot!? Clearly it placed itself in harm's way!

 

[ELKA]

By which you can probably conclude that there is no video of the moment of impact. And thank goodness for that, or we'd likely have been subjected to the sight of the poor woman's body flying through the air over and over and over again, on the nightly news.

Repeatedly requesting video evidence on this thread is unreasonable, and ugly, because it gives the impression that if there is no video then obviously she wasn't hit by a car. Even though there are apparently both witnesses and forensic evidence that she was.

I really, really feel bad for her family. And her poor mum, who is likely to have the whole "she died of a heart attack" thing twisted and used against her daughter. This is going to be one hell of a trial for them to endure!

As I have said I have seen the video of the car hitting the crowd, but I don’t see her. So why is it ugly when she was ready to commit violence, that I, a person who has advocated here for dialogue and peaceful resolution and accuracy is attacked for wanting the truth to be out. Because in your mind a person who is killed by a neo-Nazi has to be an innocent. I have no reason to defend either of them, so I want the truth.

 

[msjprincess]

As I have said I have seen the video of the car hitting the crowd, but I don’t see her. So why is it ugly when she was ready to commit violence, that I, a person who has advocated here for dialogue and peaceful resolution and accuracy is attacked for wanting the truth to be out. Because in your mind a person who is killed by a neo-Nazi has to be an innocent. I have no reason to defend either of them, so I want the truth.

You have proof of that?

 

[sam_gordon]

When on 9/11 when they show the planes going into the building, they showed the moment lives were lost. When some of the newspapers the next day showed people who jumped out of the WTC in mid air what do you think we saw. When in 1980 a journalist was shot in the back and ABC showed it. When James Foley and Jihadi John was shown, what did you think about that, on the internet it shows the actual killing and the head of James Foley on his body’s lap. How about Bastille Day in France when a truck was shown plowing down the street killing people, the media all showed those things. That is only the tip of what is shown on film. So, me asking for the video is not an unreasonable request.

Again, do you believe that if there is no video that she wasn't hit by the car?

 

[Magpie]

As I have said I have seen the video of the car hitting the crowd, but I don’t see her. So why is it ugly when she was ready to commit violence, that I, a person who has advocated here for dialogue and peaceful resolution and accuracy is attacked for wanting the truth to be out. Because in your mind a person who is killed by a neo-Nazi has to be an innocent. I have no reason to defend either of them, so I want the truth.

And what entitles you to determine "the truth" before there's even been a trial?

Isn't this what the trial is for? To lay out all the evidence, hear all sides, and determine what the truth is?

 

[Christine]

As I have said I have seen the video of the car hitting the crowd, but I don’t see her. So why is it ugly when she was ready to commit violence, that I, a person who has advocated here for dialogue and peaceful resolution and accuracy is attacked for wanting the truth to be out. Because in your mind a person who is killed by a neo-Nazi has to be an innocent. I have no reason to defend either of them, so I want the truth.

So then you believe that death by car (clearly the car was going forward and then backing up in at least one instance) is justified in some cases?

 

[ELKA]

You have proof of that?

She was part of the group that was there. Marching with them. She knew what she was a part of. She saw the bats and other stuff.

 

[mnrose]

Also, 19 people were hit by that car. It's just the grace of God that prevented more deaths. But, since none of those other 19 people died, and Heather Heyer wore black, smoked and was overweight means the neo-Nazi was a good guy. Got it.

 

[msjprincess]

She was part of the group that was there. Marching with them. She knew what she was a part of. She saw the bats and other stuff.

You mean the group that was protesting neo-nazis?

 

[sam_gordon]

She was part of the group that was there. Marching with them. She knew what she was a part of. She saw the bats and other stuff.

So these mean "she was ready to commit violence"? Sorry, I don't follow your logic.

 

[ELKA]

Again, do you believe that if there is no video that she wasn't hit by the car?

There are numerous videos of what happened in Charlottesville. Google and you will see. There are even videos of her in the crowd, so my question is where is the one that does show her hit?

 

[ELKA]

So these mean "she was ready to commit violence"? Sorry, I don't follow your logic.

Her Facebook page.

 

[ELKA]

You mean the group that was protesting neo-nazis?

Yes, glad to see you can make a connection.

 

[Magpie]

So then you believe that death by car (clearly the car was going forward and then backing up in at least one instance) is justified in some cases?

Well, sure! If the person you're running over with your car is a hook handed serial killer trying to murder teens at Make Out Point, then absolutely.

In almost all other cases, no.