News Round Up 2019

[TheMaxRebo]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

I guess it depends what age you are thinking of - but young kids, say 7 and under - I fully agree. I think once you learn about the history of slavery in the United States, Jim Crow laws are a key part of that so once they learn that I think that at least some would connect them. (though it seems like the teaching of slavery in the US school systems is rather inconsistent so hard to know exactly what age kids learn about this - some might not until high school)

and I guess there is a follow-up question in that, is it ok to let kids (or anyone) just view them at "silly characters"? Personally, I think if it didn't have one named Jim Crow is might be easier to just let it go at that, but that name makes the connection much more specific

Maybe Disney could put up 2 versions, one with it edited out and one with a disclaimer/intro explaining things and let individuals/parents decide which one to view?

 

[firefly_ris]

) Personally, I think if it didn't have one named Jim Crow is might be easier to just let it go at that, but that name makes the connection much more specific

His name is never spoken in the movie. I was not aware of what his name was supposed to be until I was an adult, when I read it somewhere, so I didn't personally make the connection.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

His name is never spoken in the movie. I was not aware of what his name was supposed to be until I was an adult, when I read it somewhere, so I didn't personally make the connection.

fair - guess since I do know it, it does taint my view though

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I may be *completely* off base with this, and if I somehow maybe offend someone, it is completely without intent. But, I really wonder how many of today’s kids would associate the crows and their voices/dialect/expressions as being stereotypical of anything other than Southern? Even as a child I thought they were just silly characters. The crow scene and song is really one of my favorites, BUT it has been a long time since I watched it. I wonder if Disney actually gets complaints about it?

You're right. Kids wouldn't know. It just offends adults. Most things only offend adults.

Same. There are entire professions built around making sure that people become offended about nearly everything now. And they’re working on younger and younger audiences all the time.

 

[andyw715]

Many, (most?) people watch movies and take it for what it is.
Then there is a vocal minority that watch/consume any and all media for the purpose of jumping on every politically un-correct interpretation they have and ensure everyone knows about it.

That's just the way it is.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Many, (most?) people watch movies and take it for what it is.
Then there is a vocal minority that watch/consume any and all media for the purpose of jumping on every politically un-correct interpretation they have and ensure everyone knows about it.

That's just the way it is.

That’s just the way it is NOW. I hope that pendulum eventually swings partially back to something more reasonable.

 

[rteetz]

News

New Rivers of Light will debut May 24th

http://blogmickey.com/2019/04/river...-debut-on-may-24th-at-disneys-animal-kingdom/

 

[rteetz]

Photo update

Tomorrowland Speedway

https://wdwnt.com/2019/04/photos-ne...lar-yet-shortened-track-at-the-magic-kingdom/

 

[rteetz]

Photo update

Evacuation training for the Skyliner

http://blogmickey.com/2019/04/photo...rocedure-testing-begins-at-walt-disney-world/

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Everyone working on their bladders for Endgame? That's a 3 hour movie people. This is no joke.

 

[jknezek]

Everyone working on their bladders for Endgame? That's a 3 hour movie people. This is no joke.

Supposed to have an intermission though. Your bladder will probably be saved so long as you don't drink all your giant soda before the 90 minutes of previews ends!

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Supposed to have an intermission though. Your bladder will probably be saved so long as you don't drink all your giant soda before the 90 minutes of previews ends!

Are you sure?

Last I heard RDJ tweeted their wasn't one.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Supposed to have an intermission though. Your bladder will probably be saved so long as you don't drink all your giant soda before the 90 minutes of previews ends!

I don't think they wound up doing an intermission

The Russo Brothers said there wasn't a good break point

 

[Anthony Vito]

I have not seen Dumbo since I was a kid, and actually would rather my kids see the cartoon before seeing the live action version. I honestly don't remember the crows very well (but they are included on a more recent Disney music CD collection that's available on Amazon Music), but I have been told for years by friends about how them being pretty racist.

I do think this is a difficult area for Disney. On the one hand, just because something was accepted at the time does not mean we should just readily accept it today and write it off as such. On the other hand, erasing such things and ignoring the past is not necessarily the answer either. Furthermore, while I generally dislike "slippery slope" arguments (they're usually a cop-out for actually addressing issues on a case-by-case basis), I do see the point of where will this go. I don't see it so much necessarily out of a fear that everything will be affected, but I can see the issue with questioning of why take action with one movie, but not another. For example, Peter Pan was just re-released on blu-ray last year with the Signature Collection. It's treatment of American Indians is just cringeworthy. I found myself physically cringing at those scenes while the kids were watching it. Even worse (to me, but I'm not well-versed in this area) seems to be that "injun" was used several times, particularly in the "Following the Leader" song. I can definitely see a valid argument that this just continues the mistreatment/ignoring of Native American issues.

I do think those who bring up the point about having an introduction or something before the end credits explaining why this was wrong both yesterday and today is a good suggestion, I do worry how it can be seen as a cop-out and excuse to get away with anything (I certainly do not think it should be Leonard Maltin - it should absolutely be someone who is in the minority affected and who has a suitable level of gravitas therein - and if there is any difficulty finding someone or repercussions for such person in his or her relative community, I think that alone would tell us a lot).

 

[jknezek]

I don't think they wound up doing an intermission

The Russo Brothers said there wasn't a good break point

Are you sure?

Last I heard RDJ tweeted their wasn't one.

Huh. I'm probably wrong then. I saw the articles saying there was one, but hadn't seen the follow ups. You guys probably follow it closer than me.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Everyone working on their bladders for Endgame? That's a 3 hour movie people. This is no joke.

We're at the top of the theater where a bathroom is located much closer than having to go down the stairs out the theater walk a bit and then turn a corner. I may have to go over some people's legs but at least it should be quicker..in the event I have to go..I'm really hoping I don't have to go though

 

[Firebird060]

Are you telling me Disney should be selling Avengers themed Adult Diapers in the lobby of the movie theater?

 

[Bing Showei]

Are you telling me Disney should be selling Avengers themed Adult Diapers in the lobby of the movie theater?

See, that's where I win. I always sneak in my own.

 

[PolyRob]

News

New Rivers of Light will debut May 24th

http://blogmickey.com/2019/04/river...-debut-on-may-24th-at-disneys-animal-kingdom/

"Not only will the imagery be updated, but so will the musical score."

Interesting. I really liked Act 2: Parade of the Animal Spirit Guide. I bet that music is completely changed. Glad I already had a FP+ for June.

 

[saskdw]

Everyone working on their bladders for Endgame? That's a 3 hour movie people. This is no joke.

I'm going Thursday and Saturday so I will just make sure to pee at a different spot in the movie.