This is Us- Season four

[brockash]

I'm a little confused with this episode. When Kate and Rebecca find that picture of Kate and Marc, Rebecca says she didn't realize anything was wrong because she was so busy, but it looks like she was right on top of it. She was leery about Marc, made them meet her for coffee, she told Kate she didn't trust him and now they end the show because Rebecca knows something is wrong and they rush to the cabin.

We also see Rebecca telling Kate about her memory issues and Kate doesn't seem mad that Randal knew first, so something else has to happen to make them not talk to him. I just can't imagine what it could be. I'm wondering if they find something when they are digging up at the cabin that Randall hid from them. We assume it is the memory box, but I wonder if it's something else.

Yeah, while I enjoyed the episode; it didn't help me understand anything new or clear anything up.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Omg Rebecca with the line of the season!!!

"You're fat and I'm ancient" ....OMG I almost died laughing

 

[Pooh93]

So when the Big 3 go to the cabin will Kate tell Randall she knows about Rebecca's memory issues and they both tell Kevin??? Kate didn't even tell Toby.

I still have more questions on Kate's past relationships. I am sure there will be an "aha" moment soon.

 

[stitch'sgirl]

I really loved this episode. The bedtime story that Kate was telling with Jack, it was so beautifully done. And she really just wanted Rebecca. Something is holding her back thinking that Rebecca doesn't love her or she isn't worthy of Rebecca's love. Oh, we all have our hang ups!

 

[mom2rtk]

"You're fat and I'm ancient" ....OMG I almost died laughing

I know I'm harping on this, but I just couldn't get past Mandy Moore's 35 year old face (made up looking maybe 45) uttering those words.

Great line if she looked older though.

 

[SC Minnie]

I liked this episode least of the last 3. I expected to get more information. It seems like they gave us more in Kevin and Randall's episodes.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

I liked this episode least of the last 3. I expected to get more information. It seems like they gave us more in Kevin and Randall's episodes.

Totally agree. While I liked seeing some "happy" moments between Kate and Rebecca, I was left wanting a lot more info. Kate had declared on the phone that her marriage was falling apart...but I didn't really see that. Toby is struggling for sure, but they ended with him offering to keep the baby for the weekend. It seemed like they were moving in the right direction. I did find it interesting that she had called her neighbor from the retreat though...

I also thought the car scene with Kate and the BF was pretty ridiculous. It seemed really forced when he flew off the handle about her not wanting to quit the job. They couldn't have come up with a better reason for the argument that that??

 

[okeydokey]

Totally agree. While I liked seeing some "happy" moments between Kate and Rebecca, I was left wanting a lot more info. Kate had declared on the phone that her marriage was falling apart...but I didn't really see that. Toby is struggling for sure, but they ended with him offering to keep the baby for the weekend. It seemed like they were moving in the right direction. I did find it interesting that she had called her neighbor from the retreat though...

I also thought the car scene with Kate and the BF was pretty ridiculous. It seemed really forced when he flew off the handle about her not wanting to quit the job. They couldn't have come up with a better reason for the argument that that??

With abusers it doesn’t take much. In his mind she defied him by not quitting the job when he suggested it. She disrespected him just like at the record store when she told the customer about Neil Diamond. In his mind she was putting him down and not letting him control all aspects of her life.

 

[Mika02]

I really feel like Kate is going to end up with Gregory he is just more supportive to her and Baby Jack. Unfortunately, I agreed that Toby should have had a night to enjoy the fact that his son could see something. We all want hope. I did not agree with him not going on the retreat and making excuses. He could have worked remotely.

So yeah I'm not sure what they could be mad at Randall about but I'm glad Rebecca told Kate.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I know I'm harping on this, but I just couldn't get past Mandy Moore's 35 year old face (made up looking maybe 45) uttering those words.

Great line if she looked older though.

It doesn't bother me. I watch Outlander and they have not made any effort to age up the characters. Just something I have learned to ignore.

 

[anniemae]

Definitely not my favorite episode. Curious to see what happens at the cabin next week. Loved that Rebecca and Kate are getting closer. Toddler Kate was cute with the story about her and Jack. In the end of the fairytale, she wanted her mother. Now present day Kate is also getting her mother in a way.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I also thought the car scene with Kate and the BF was pretty ridiculous. It seemed really forced when he flew off the handle about her not wanting to quit the job. They couldn't have come up with a better reason for the argument that that??

It doesn't take much for someone like that. I speak from personal experience.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

With abusers it doesn’t take much. In his mind she defied him by not quitting the job when he suggested it. She disrespected him just like at the record store when she told the customer about Neil Diamond. In his mind she was putting him down and not letting him control all aspects of her life.

It doesn't take much for someone like that. I speak from personal experience.

I (fortunately) don't have any personal experience with that, so for me it was crazy...but yeah I can definitely see your points. Scary! I think we'll see this story develop a lot more.

 

[mjkacmom]

I really feel like Kate is going to end up with Gregory he is just more supportive to her and Baby Jack. Unfortunately, I agreed that Toby should have had a night to enjoy the fact that his son could see something. We all want hope. I did not agree with him not going on the retreat and making excuses. He could have worked remotely.

So yeah I'm not sure what they could be made at Randall about but I'm glad Rebecca told Kate.

I can see why she didn‘t, it seems like she is working very hard on learning about Jack’s condition and future, as a SAHM that has always been my role, DH just goes with the flow. Every now and then, he will bring up something that I’ve spent a long time gathering information on, and I can get irked. I’m sure Kate had the same hopes, and already dealt with disappointment.

 

[lisaviolet]

I'm a little confused with this episode. When Kate and Rebecca find that picture of Kate and Marc, Rebecca says she didn't realize anything was wrong because she was so busy, but it looks like she was right on top of it.

But Rebecca came to that realization very late in the game, when it had already gone too far.

Remember that she is thinking back on a distant situation when they found the picture, distant meaning time -decades, maybe not taking in the finer points. Just remembering that she wasn't checked in.

And not giving herself credit that she realized something was wrong at the eleventh hour.

Not faulting Rebecca, it is impossible for parents to see and take in everything.

I really loved this episode. The bedtime story that Kate was telling with Jack, it was so beautifully done. And she really just wanted Rebecca. Something is holding her back thinking that Rebecca doesn't love her or she isn't worthy of Rebecca's love. Oh, we all have our hang ups!

The scenes with Jack and his Katie girl were exquisitely beautiful. Made me miss my own father.

The actress playing Kate, wow. Once again casting makes this show.

I know I'm harping on this, but I just couldn't get past Mandy Moore's 35 year old face (made up looking maybe 45) uttering those words.

Great line if she looked older though.

It's weird for me when I read about Rebecca's aging. My mom has passed away but a lot of her friends looked/look incredibly youthful in their seventies and eighties. And naturally that way. They blow me away how good they look.

And Rebecca is supposed to be in her early to mid sixties, yes?

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And someone else called her memory issues early-onset dementia, and felt it was unbelievable. Where Rebecca is at is not early-onset (that can hit in thirties and forties and hit hard and fast), she is simply having initial symptoms of dementia in her sixties. My mother lived until 82. I could see subtle signs of her dementia before she retired.

I also thought the car scene with Kate and the BF was pretty ridiculous. It seemed really forced when he flew off the handle about her not wanting to quit the job. They couldn't have come up with a better reason for the argument that that??

No sarcasm meant but you are living a blessed life, in that regard. It is truly lovely to hear that you've never had anyone around you that acts like that.

I have had a few loved ones, that I might not even label as abusive, that could fly off the handle at a moment's notice. Rational behaviour need not apply.

I have been guilty of it myself at times, I am sorry to say.

Toby is struggling for sure, but they ended with him offering to keep the baby for the weekend. It seemed like they were moving in the right direction. I did find it interesting that she had called her neighbor from the retreat though...

Toby is really affecting me. And I have never been a fan. But I am sensitive to their dynamic. I have not been able to get that earlier show with Kate/Toby out of my head.

The hardest issues in relationships are when one part can't see how hard someone is struggling and attempting to communicate that. And getting blocked at every turn.

The writing with Toby, and his acting, has been exemplary.

As I said then, after that specific show, Kate has every reason to be shouting JUST DO!! at the top of her lungs.

But she has not seen/acknowledged how vulnerable her husband is being, trying to communicate his struggle - a struggle that he has shown he is not pleased with himself about. He has reached out in both subtle and straightforward ways.

Once again, I clearly see her frustration. Sometimes the matter at hand has no time for feelings (Ironic with Kate's character and Toby's patience)

But his blocks come from her turning too quickly to her extended family, when Toby is on the brink of reaching out. And having a vulnerable moment with his wife.

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As for how differently they are processing Jack's health - well it doesn't need to be right or wrong, just understood.

So hard all around.

 

[lisaviolet]

"You're fat and I'm ancient" ....OMG I almost died laughing

Her calling Kate fat plays a bit into the loosening of boundaries and change in personality that dementia can bring.

It was the one bright area with my Mom's dementia. She took a lot of crap from us over the years. We all could be hard on her. And sometimes it made me smile when she changed into a more abrupt and outspoken woman. She was very much like Rebecca in personality.

And I know dementia is horrid, but to survive you have to see some light.

 

[mjkacmom]

Her calling Kate fat plays a bit into the loosening of boundaries and change in personality that dementia can bring.

It was the one bright area with my Mom's dementia. She took a lot of crap from us over the years. We all could be hard on her. And sometimes it made me smile when she changed into a more abrupt and outspoken woman. She was very much like Rebecca in personality.

And I know dementia is horrid, but to survive you have to see some light.

My dad was always quick to anger and always right, his personality with dementia was a bit of a nightmare. Taking care of my mom when she was dying of cancer and dealing with him yelling and complaining is not a fun memory.

Desling with someone with dementia, yes, you need to have a sense of humor!

 

[Searc]

We know someone who is dying of dementia-related illness at 42, so Rebecca's story line is 100% believable to me.

 

[lisaviolet]

My dad was always quick to anger and always right, his personality with dementia was a bit of a nightmare. Taking care of my mom when she was dying of cancer and dealing with him yelling and complaining is not a fun memory.

I am so very sorry. My father would have been the same way, if he had had dementia. For sure. So I get it.

My mother was at times very hard to process, with her words. I don't mean to make light of it. But early on it was lovely to see looser boundaries. Later on, not so much.

But then again she was mute for her last two years, so then you ached for any words.

I have one lovely memory of my mom, like Rebecca last night, extending her decisions/boundaries by asking me if she could go down a two storey water slide at Vero Beach! My mother who would never get her hair wet in a pool, and wore a bathing cap, wanted to go down a wicked slide! She did and squealed with joy the entire way. That happened because of dementia. Those kind of memories.

My father, God love him, was quite the ton of fun with a brain tumour. People used to ask me "Is that the brain tumour?". I used to say well it's very hard to decide where personality ends and brain tumour begins!!

Okay, I have gone so far off topic. I am sorry you, and them, went through so much mjkacmom. It's so very hard.

 

[lisaviolet]

We know someone who is dying of dementia-related illness at 42, so Rebecca's story line is 100% believable to me.

I am sorry searc. Early-onset dementia is horrifying.