Disneylover99
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Well it's been a fast moving thread these past few days anyways. You gotta read quick to keep up.I didn't see the last few words of the post I quoted. That's where speed reading will get ya!
Well it's been a fast moving thread these past few days anyways. You gotta read quick to keep up.I didn't see the last few words of the post I quoted. That's where speed reading will get ya!
That's the thing... For now there's still some magic, but the way they've been chipping away at it, what does the future hold? It's like they don't understand/remember/care about (??) the unique Disney foundations on which this was all built and if the foundations get shaky...
It's not just about money - it's about respect for your Guests/customers - it's about pride in your work and what you're selling - it's about recognizing that the little things not only add up (when you remove or add them), but, even on their own, can have a disproportionately big impact.
When you cut the quality of food, but charge more for it.
When you suddenly make resorts dog-friendly; reassure people with a list of rules; but then don't enforce them consistently.
When your neighbors smoke on the balcony in a non-smoking resort and you're the ones who have to waste your holiday time moving rooms.
When parks are busier than ever, but ride capacity is reduced.
When CSR and CBR become building sites and POR suddenly becomes dog-friendly - all at the same time.
When you put cabanas in Tomorrowland!
I can't believe I'm writing this about Disney.
Not all placards include this information nor are plates required. Kentucky placards do not have a photo attached anywhere nor on the official documentation from the clerk’s office. My mom has a placard but not the plate. It would actually be fairly easy for someone to do. I would never do it because, as you say, it is illegal and taking up a space for someone who really needs it.
From what I’ve read in this thread they just recently did raise the room rates so this is on top of thatHaven't read this entire thread so its possible somebody already asked this question....
Why didn't they just (quietly) increase room rates? Would anybody have noticed? If they wanted to earn $x revenue per resort from this parking fee they could instead have just increased the room rate. Yes, not everybody is going to park a car overnight. So, instead of charging those with a car say $20 a night at a resort that typically has 50% of its guests with a car they could have just raised the nightly room rate by $10 across the board. Nobody would be the wiser.
Because they just did that a few weeks ago. Seriously. And for the reasons PPs said as well.Haven't read this entire thread so its possible somebody already asked this question....
Why didn't they just (quietly) increase room rates? Would anybody have noticed? If they wanted to earn $x revenue per resort from this parking fee they could instead have just increased the room rate. Yes, not everybody is going to park a car overnight. So, instead of charging those with a car say $20 a night at a resort that typically has 50% of its guests with a car they could have just raised the nightly room rate by $10 across the board. Nobody would be the wiser.
What I’ve sent in.
Just a complaint about the new hotel parking fees - very disappointed in this decision. Disney used to have a perceived value and distinction over the other theme parks. But with all the changes in the past few years including this most recent change, I feel that the once perceived value and distinction that set Disney apart is slowly eroding away. Sorry to say that the next Orlando vacation we book won’t be at Disney. Time to try something else now that they are all pretty much the same.
Regards,
Marcy
Geez folks....technology is an amazing thing. A couple of responses to a few points...
1. "How will they know when my reservation was made?" Simple...technology. As soon as your reservation pops up, their computer systems can tell EXACTLY when your reservation was made..right down to the minute/second. If it was made after March 21st, the IT system will know and will automatically assess a parking charge. This isn't even something the cast member will have to punch in...the computer will automatically have it on file.
2. "How will they know the difference between "overnight guests", "day guests", "uber/taxi", etc?" Simple...the same as nearly every other parking system works in the US. If you have a reservation, you check in at the gate when you enter (either by magic band, or manually with the gate attendant). If you have a reservation, your parking charge is automatically billed to your portfolio for the length of your stay. If you say you are being dropped off and you don't have a car, or you have a dinner reservation, or you're just there to shop and explore the resort, etc...the driver is issued a time-stamped ticket that he/she will have to present when leaving the resort. If your ticket shows you're over whatever allotted time, YOU ARE CHARGED FOR PARKING. If you lie up front about just being a day guest, you'll get busted when you attempt to leave the parking lot a few days later, and you'll pay for parking before you're able to exit. Again, this really isn't that hard to figure out.
Total for stay:$2,958.75 then add $10 a night for parking.
So it would make no sense for me to change from CBR to that when my room is only costing 2621. add in the 140 if i had a car there it would still be less.
I wasn’t implying we only travel to theme parks, but WHEN we decide to visit theme parks for a week, Disney is still in our opinion still the best option. Six Flags is terrible, will never step foot in another after my last experience. Some Cedar Fair parks are ok for a day, not a week long vacation. And Universal, while great parks, do not have the resort/dining options available at Disney that turn a week long trip to theme parks into a week long magical experience. Also, I think the parking fee sucks too, just not going to let $14-24 a night change my idea of a good time, may just stay one day less if money becomes an issue.I'm always amazed at the people who never seem to vacation anywhere else. We are not beach people either, but by gosh there's a whole world out there to see. There is more to the world than theme parks.
They just did raise them a few weeks ago.Haven't read this entire thread so its possible somebody already asked this question....
Why didn't they just (quietly) increase room rates? Would anybody have noticed? If they wanted to earn $x revenue per resort from this parking fee they could instead have just increased the room rate. Yes, not everybody is going to park a car overnight. So, instead of charging those with a car say $20 a night at a resort that typically has 50% of its guests with a car they could have just raised the nightly room rate by $10 across the board. Nobody would be the wiser.
Best Western, $754.83
Incidentally, most of these resorts offer bigger rooms and/or more amenities than Disney's resorts.
We're planning on a cheaper time of year and I know it isn't exactly apples-to-apples because other resorts have discounts out now while Disney's won't come until later, but the rates I'm finding are a HUGE gap. These are the rates, inclusive of any resort fee but not including parking, for Aug 30 to Sept 5. If I saw a parking fee, it is in parenthesis.
Best Western, $754.83
Wyndham Garden, $810.67
Hilton Lake Buena Vista, $845.10 ($18 parking)
Doubletree Suites, $903.85 ($22 parking) (suite)
Holiday Inn, $984.03 (free parking pkg)
Hilton Buena Vista Palace, $1007.10 ($10 parking)
B Resort, $1206.33 ($22 parking)
Disney's Caribbean Beach or Coronado Springs, $1482.78 ($19 parking)
Disney's Port Orleans, aka the "not a construction site" moderate, $1577.26 ($19 parking)
Incidentally, most of these resorts offer bigger rooms and/or more amenities than Disney's resorts.
If you stayed for 24 nights and are not a DVC member, yes.so last august, i would have had to pay an additional $576.00 to park our rental car at SSR during our stay?
Realistically, not happening.That will only last until they have to close WDW due to lack of patronage.
And Sears, to a lesser degree. TrU is a much better example than malls. Malls charge rent, bo don't set (or have any say in) retail prices.Toys R Us would be a great example.
I think what it comes down to is eroding good will towards Disney (the corporation) from its base. Many of us here have felt this increasing over the last five or so years and it's a matter of when, not if, this will finally hit them in patronage.
Personally, I was going to go back this year, but now? not without some added value since the prices have sharply increased across the board. I already chose not to renew my AP...
Edited to add:
they're going to have to discount a lot until SW: GE opens, IMO, anyway. Almost all of the casual disney-goers I know are "waiting" until it opens to do their family's once in a lifetime trip.
I'm always amazed at the people who never seem to vacation anywhere else. We are not beach people either, but by gosh there's a whole world out there to see. There is more to the world than theme parks.
We're planning on a cheaper time of year and I know it isn't exactly apples-to-apples because other resorts have discounts out now while Disney's won't come until later, but the rates I'm finding are a HUGE gap. These are the rates, inclusive of any resort fee but not including parking, for Aug 30 to Sept 5. If I saw a parking fee, it is in parenthesis.
Best Western, $754.83
Wyndham Garden, $810.67
Hilton Lake Buena Vista, $845.10 ($18 parking)
Doubletree Suites, $903.85 ($22 parking) (suite)
Holiday Inn, $984.03 (free parking pkg)
Hilton Buena Vista Palace, $1007.10 ($10 parking)
B Resort, $1206.33 ($22 parking)
Disney's Caribbean Beach or Coronado Springs, $1482.78 ($19 parking)
Disney's Port Orleans, aka the "not a construction site" moderate, $1577.26 ($19 parking)
Incidentally, most of these resorts offer bigger rooms and/or more amenities than Disney's resorts.
I've stayed in most of them ...
- What is your group makeup?
- Will you be using your pool/amenities much?
- Will you be taking breaks for naps etc?