mom2rtk
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Probably won't want to use a spouse's insurance plan then.Way around that is just to go to different hospital than normal and check single on app.
Probably won't want to use a spouse's insurance plan then.Way around that is just to go to different hospital than normal and check single on app.
Probably won't want to use a spouse's insurance plan then.
Most would be shocked at what even a minor medical procedure would cost. Especially since when paying out of pocket, you wouldn't get the benefit of the negotiated discounts insurance companies have.Definitely. Or just pay OOP.
Most would be shocked at what even a minor medical procedure would cost. Especially since when paying out of pocket, you wouldn't get the benefit of the negotiated discounts insurance companies have.
Why not? It's pretty socially acceptable, if not often expected for women to put themselves at a higher risk for things in the name of birth control, why be more cautious with males?I just can't imagine lowering a man's testosterone for a month. While it was considered "safe" for 30 days, I'm not sure about long term. And it didn't seem to totally shut down what it needs to shut down.
I think you’re right that it won’t appeal to men & I guess that’s the part the bugs me so much. What do men think we have been doing for years?? We have been voluntarily taking meds that mess with our hormones for years...not to mention all the other side effects.[/QUOTE
They don't care, neither does society as a whole...thats the sad issue.
Guess that was my point. And to me, society has convinced other women that they shouldn’t care either b/c it’s just the way it is.
Except society isn't. Women choose for themselves to take or not take birth control. Men and "society" don't force the issue.
She, just like a man if this becomes available, can decide that she doesn't want to deal with the side effects and go another route.
I don't know why there is this misconception that a pill is the only available form of birth control for women. A woman can just decide she isn't having sex without a condom and skip the pill entirely.
Why not? It's pretty socially acceptable, if not often expected for women to put themselves at a higher risk for things in the name of birth control, why be more cautious with males?
Guess that was my point. And to me, society has convinced other women that they shouldn’t care either b/c it’s just the way it is.
I'm pretty sure taking her to court would be the most effective means of birth control out there.True but if you're on a shared insurance plan with spouse and she won't sign off on vasectomy, your options are limited. Take her to court or pay OOP, lol.
There isn't a misconception that the pill is the only available form of birth control. But forms of birth control that are chemically-related can have side effects and yes sometimes severe ones. But taking something as simple as acetaminophen can lead to serious side effects related to your liver to name one. Each individual needs to be aware of the side effects of medication they take but it doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to take medication. All my allergy medications I've taken over my lifetime have had side effects too.Except society isn't. Women choose for themselves to take or not take birth control. Men and "society" don't force the issue.
She, just like a man if this becomes available, can decide that she doesn't want to deal with the side effects and go another route.
I don't know why there is this misconception that a pill is the only available form of birth control for women. A woman can just decide she isn't having sex without a condom and skip the pill entirely.
It's still early, but so far today you are winning the DIS!!I'm pretty sure taking her to court would be the most effective means of birth control out there.
We all know that women have had a choice. The point is that men did not have a pharmaceutical choice until now (maybe). Now that they do (might) some ppl are acting like it’s a big b/c men might have to deal with side effects. Some of us are saying, we have had that for years. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to understand that it’s a little obnoxious for some of us to hear that. Like a pp said, men weren't worried about that when it was just us assuming the risks.Except society isn't. Women choose for themselves to take or not take birth control. Men and "society" don't force the issue.
She, just like a man if this becomes available, can decide that she doesn't want to deal with the side effects and go another route.
I don't know why there is this misconception that a pill is the only available form of birth control for women. A woman can just decide she isn't having sex without a condom and skip the pill entirely.
Yes. I think some women have been convinced by men & society that they should just accept the status quo for most things despite inequity etc. I’m not just talking about birth control but in a broader sense.So you don't think women are capable of making their own decisions about what they put in to their bodies? Somehow they do it because society has convinced them?
You don't give women much credit do you.
For the last time, it’s not about taking the pill or choosing to or the benefits or any of that. That’s all valid & good. It’s that SOME men would have the nerve to say you (as a women) can continue the risk b/c I’m not going to. And, there are “poor women” who just do what the men in their lives or society tells them to. I’ve seen them.There isn't a misconception that the pill is the only available form of birth control. But forms of birth control that are chemically-related can have side effects and yes sometimes severe ones. But taking something as simple as acetaminophen can lead to serious side effects related to your liver to name one. Each individual needs to be aware of the side effects of medication they take but it doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to take medication. All my allergy medications I've taken over my lifetime have had side effects too.
As for the other aspect I can only surmise that the PP either deals with or has dealt with issues they've had with their period without medication (kudos to them if they did) or never had any issues but for whatever reason has it in their head that women are poor unfortunate souls incapable of making decisions for themselves that *gasp* do not rely nor revolve around a man nor society. I took the birth control pill for myself, for my overall wellbeing after attempting to deal with symptoms for several years and after trying other medication too like Pamprin or Midol (initially I took no medication for a long while) which as it is a medication can have side effects too and when those weren't effective enough for me personally we looked into other options.
But what do I know I only do what society and men tell me
I'm pretty sure taking her to court would be the most effective means of birth control out there.
don't need it.......anymore.
We all know that women have had a choice. The point is that men did not have a pharmaceutical choice until now (maybe). Now that they do (might) some ppl are acting like it’s a big b/c men might have to deal with side effects. Some of us are saying, we have had that for years. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to understand that it’s a little obnoxious for some of us to hear that. Like a pp said, men weren't worried about that when it was just us assuming the risks.