Post it! I wouldn't consider it a spoiler if it was discussed on GMA. GMA is on the same network and they wouldn't be truly spoiling the season. They'd just be speculating or discussing it, like we're doing here.On GMA this morning there was talk about Peter and who the final person is. I don't know if it would be a spoiler or not since it was on national tv. Should I post it or not?
Agreed!Post it! I wouldn't consider it a spoiler if it was discussed on GMA. GMA is on the same network and they wouldn't be truly spoiling the season. They'd just be speculating or discussing it, like we're doing here.
I don't care for the final four either. I'd like to know who Peter's mother is talking about in the clips where she is telling him to "bring her home" or something to that effect.
On GMA this morning there was talk about Peter and who the final person is. I don't know if it would be a spoiler or not since it was on national tv. Should I post it or not?
another vote for posting itPost it. It's not a spoiler IMO if it's been on national TV. And, it's probably more in the nature of speculation than a spoiler. Just my view.
I agree! Post it and if someone doesn’t want to read it they can skip it.Post it. It's not a spoiler IMO if it's been on national TV. And, it's probably more in the nature of speculation than a spoiler. Just my view.
I am so not a fan of Victoria’s, but Peter treated her terribly! I actually felt sorry for her. I can’t believe he let his ex GF’s drama get into his head. Then, he turned it all around to be Victoria’s fault for being pissed off at his drama llama crap. What the heck is wrong with him? What the heck is wrong with her to chase after him and beg him after he essentially asked if she was a ‘home wrecker’. Why would she even want him? Ugh.
There are lots of articles online further explaining the Peter ex girlfriend situation. Apparently, Peter's ex's best friend was married, and her husband cheated on her with Victoria F. Victoria F has a reputation around Virginia Beach for having affairs with married men, and there are at least 4 that are confirmed she has been with and ruined the marriages of. It wasn't shown in the episode, but Lauren Burnham's mother (Lauren from Arie's season) was also present at the date on "standby" to talk to Peter, because one of Lauren's friend's husband also had an affair with Victoria F (Lauren is from VA Beach). Of course, production arranged to have Peter's ex and Lauren's mom there to "warn" Peter. This was their way of making Peter aware of Victoria's baggage. Peter is in a bubble during filming with no access to the outside world, so there's no way for him to find out organically so it has to be contrived somehow.I also found it very suspicious that Peter's ex-girlfriend just happened to live in Virginia Beach and just happened to be there at that exact time to run into him....PLEASE!! I liked Peter during Hannah B's show but I think that he is a real jerk on his own show. He can't make a decision to save his life and some drama always forces him to make the decision.
There are lots of articles online further explaining the Peter ex girlfriend situation. Apparently, Peter's ex's best friend was married, and her husband cheated on her with Victoria F. Victoria F has a reputation around Virginia Beach for having affairs with married men, and there are at least 4 that are confirmed she has been with and ruined the marriages of. It wasn't shown in the episode, but Lauren Burnham's mother (Lauren from Arie's season) was also present at the date on "standby" to talk to Peter, because one of Lauren's friend's husband also had an affair with Victoria F (Lauren is from VA Beach). Of course, production arranged to have Peter's ex and Lauren's mom there to "warn" Peter. This was their way of making Peter aware of Victoria's baggage. Peter is in a bubble during filming with no access to the outside world, so there's no way for him to find out organically so it has to be contrived somehow.
But what's baffling to me is that none of this was really made clear or evident during the episode. This all came out on the spoiler sites before the season started airing, and Victoria was getting some backlash at the time, so perhaps it was edited in this way to minimize the backlash she would inevitably receive? I'm not sure, but she is not a good person and I have zero sympathy for her. Her responses to Peter while outside her family home were defensive and combative - she knew she was being exposed.
I agree, the final 4 came out of nowhere really. I thought Kelley would be a front runner. It seems clear Peter just wanted to bring Victoria to the fantasy suite at this point. Hannah Ann is very sweet but very young and I think she's wrapped up in the excitement within the Bachelor bubble. I think Madison could be ready for marriage, but its not with Peter. After seeing her family, she needs someone who puts faith first. Peter may consider himself religious, but its not to the level of Madison and her family. Nothing wrong with either lifestyle, but they are not compatible in that regard which will always be a bane of their relationship.Exactly. Victoria is entitled, of course, to do what she wants, but she has come across as "non-genuine" this entire season to me. I totally do not get his final 4 AT ALL. None of them seem like marriage material to me. And, it's not hard to see that whatever "relationship" comes out of this whole thing will not last. He had a much more genuine connection, or it seemed to me anyway, with Hannah Brown from her season. At this point, I have the TV on in the background but I'm not really "watching" anymore. Boring, boring boring and so predictable!
You have stated my opinion perfectly. Thank you for that.I agree, the final 4 came out of nowhere really. I thought Kelley would be a front runner. It seems clear Peter just wanted to bring Victoria to the fantasy suite at this point. Hannah Ann is very sweet but very young and I think she's wrapped up in the excitement within the Bachelor bubble. I think Madison could be ready for marriage, but its not with Peter. After seeing her family, she needs someone who puts faith first. Peter may consider himself religious, but its not to the level of Madison and her family. Nothing wrong with either lifestyle, but they are not compatible in that regard which will always be a bane of their relationship.
How many times has he believed drama from someone and challenged one of the women? It happened ... All. Season. Long. Some of them were ’guilty’ of the crime and some were not. But he swallowed drama from everyone hook, line and sinker and spread the drama through the house. Victoria was there with her family and he brought up the drama before he even met them. I don’t care if she slept with all of VA Beach, she didn’t deserve to be humiliated like that by the producers or by Peter who is so insecure that he continually believes the worst of the women. And I say that as someone who doesn’t like her AT ALL.Her responses to Peter while outside her family home were defensive and combative - she knew she was being exposed.
Totally agree. As someone he’s supposedly falling in love with, he should have given her the benefit of the doubt, went ahead with meeting her family, then had a conversation after the fact. But instead he took the word of someone he dated in 2012??! What a slap in the face.How many times has he believed drama from someone and challenged one of the women? It happened ... All. Season. Long. Some of them were ’guilty’ of the crime and some were not. But he swallowed drama from everyone hook, line and sinker and spread the drama through the house. Victoria was there with her family and he brought up the drama before he even met them. I don’t care if she slept with all of VA Beach, she didn’t deserve to be humiliated like that by the producers or by Peter who is so insecure that he continually believes the worst of the women. And I say that as someone who doesn’t like her AT ALL.